Rolling Brexit Links/UK politics in the neo-Weimar era

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Wanker.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 09:03 (seven years ago) link

:(

conrad, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 09:17 (seven years ago) link

Next level chutzpah

@Gove2016
We need to renegotiate a new relationship with the EU, based on free trade and friendly cooperation. #Gove2016

groovypanda, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 09:24 (seven years ago) link

hahah .. we piss them all off, enforce years and years of paperwork chaos, and then ask if we can be friendly.

mark e, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 09:30 (seven years ago) link

We're helping create work in the EU.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 09:37 (seven years ago) link

I like this david graeber piece on the distaste for corbyn:

What all this suggests is the possibility that the remarkable hostility to Corbyn displayed by even the left-of-centre media is not due to the fact they don’t understand what the movement that placed him in charge of the Labour party is ultimately about, but because, on some level, they actually do.

After all, insofar as politics is a game of personalities, of scandals, foibles and acts of “leadership”, political journalists are not just the referees – in a real sense they are the field on which the game is played.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/05/political-establishment-momentum-jeremy-corbyn

ogmor, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 09:50 (seven years ago) link

Starting to think that the solution to this whole problem is to ban anyone over the age of 30 from joining Momentum.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 10:03 (seven years ago) link

It's a solution in that it'll create a stable state, I suppose...

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 10:07 (seven years ago) link

what?

ogmor, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 10:18 (seven years ago) link

idgi

conrad, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 10:22 (seven years ago) link

science joke

imago, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 10:37 (seven years ago) link

Logan's Run?

calzino, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 10:42 (seven years ago) link

Er, no I just mean that it'll be permanent Torygeddon - it's a solution if you want to call it that.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 10:43 (seven years ago) link

Is stable state one without any reaction going on? Came across something like that in reading James Lovelock talking about looking for signs of life on Mars which lead to him coming up with the Gaia theory.
Which had him saying that any planet that had no continual reaction going on would be inherently dead & a living planet would have most chemicals in an imperfect balance and continual reaction.
Which would presumably mean that a stable state in a political situation would be nearly totalitarian. Or have everybody represented needing to be dead.

Or am I reading too much into that?

Stevolende, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 11:02 (seven years ago) link

Does anyone in the Conservative Party rate Gove even remotely highly or was his advancement almost entirely down to being mates with Cameron and having handy Murdoch links?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 13:14 (seven years ago) link

he seems beloved by a particular type of nutcase right-wing pundit (eg. this encomium from the National Review's Jay Nordlinger), don't know about actual boring Tory party politicians and members, though

soref, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 13:26 (seven years ago) link

The line I keep seeing bandied about regarding Gove is that the party loves him and the media loves him. Not entirely sure either bit of that is true.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 14:16 (seven years ago) link

pound falls to 31-year low, new twist added to end-of-season finale

brexit through the rift shock (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 15:06 (seven years ago) link

M&G and Aviva have also suspended their property funds fwiw.

Gove seems to have a reputation as an intellectual within the Tory party. People really rate his education reforms for some reason.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 15:41 (seven years ago) link

People really rate his education reforms... all apart from teachers, pupils and parents ime

coygbiv (NickB), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 15:52 (seven years ago) link

for all of michael gove's "we've had enough of experts" he could easily be mistaken either for someone who thinks he's an expert or, by an idiot, an expert

conrad, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:23 (seven years ago) link

his idea to reform the history syllabus to get rid of all that social history guff and instead to teach an unabashed apologia of empire through the study of battles and great men mustve endeared him to the faithful

♫ Corbyn's on fire / PLP is terrified ♫ (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link

met and spent some time a couple of years ago the ceo of ofqual who seemingly was a fan of michael gove - looked her up just now and she has recently been "made a dame" for "services to education" and is now...chief inspector of probation which presumably means they still get to hang out together

conrad, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:45 (seven years ago) link

lol so cool that we'll be taking back control from unaccountable bureaucrats in brussels

So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:58 (seven years ago) link

I didn't realise Gl3nys had left, which shows how much attention i pay.

Crabb and Fox have both backed May now.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 19:47 (seven years ago) link

it's a little sad that Crabb and Fox leaving the race this early has deprived us on animal name based jokes and headlines. There is a species of fox called the "Crab-eating fox", I would have enjoyed seeing pictures of this fellow on the yahoo homepage etc:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Crab-eating_Fox.JPG/460px-Crab-eating_Fox.JPG

http://www.mainlesson.com/books/raju/fables/zpage028.gif

soref, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link

Anyone else reckon Crabb was at risk of tabloid embarrassment due to a very specific type of hypocrisy?

jedi slimane (suzy), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link

i did wonder

and the Gove maths out Raab (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 21:48 (seven years ago) link

Leadsom's shady behaviour about her tax return probably hasn't done her any favours. What's the big deal? She is a Tory after all.

Listening to Gove not seem to realise he is finished was nice. I am starting to think that the fucking idiot actually thought he could pull this off, rather than just stopping Boris.

calzino, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 22:07 (seven years ago) link

(xp) Said it the first time I clapped eyes on him.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link

Couple of verrrry interesting threads on my FB timeline cough*closet*cough

jedi slimane (suzy), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 22:26 (seven years ago) link

advocate for homosexuality cure in 'might be homosexual' shocker

brexit through the rift shock (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link

instagram affirmation culture comes to brexit

https://twitter.com/SteveHiltonx/status/750472858480943104

the hallouminati (lex pretend), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 07:28 (seven years ago) link

yes and ho

imago, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 07:31 (seven years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/birdnestsoup/sad.jpg

lonely car just thinking baout things

coygbiv (NickB), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 08:52 (seven years ago) link

sadness in its eyes

the hallouminati (lex pretend), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 08:53 (seven years ago) link

Disappointed, was looking forward to a few more days of Crab jokes to lighten the general gloom

So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 09:16 (seven years ago) link

the claws are out

conrad, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 09:30 (seven years ago) link

He's getting a bit of stick

So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 09:53 (seven years ago) link

he's going to need a hard shell if he... oh what's the point?

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:07 (seven years ago) link

https://mobile.twitter.com/PickardJE/status/750608854036152320/photo/1

A suggestion that advertised job vacancies halved following the referendum.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:07 (seven years ago) link

guys

chilcot's going in quite hard

imago, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:17 (seven years ago) link

Yep. Has come as close as he is able within his remit to saying the war was illegal, badly planned and justified with spun evidence.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:26 (seven years ago) link

Which we all knew already but it'll be interesting to see how the likes of Mike Gapes and John McTernan who were on the news earlier saying they'd do it all over again respond.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:27 (seven years ago) link

some of these fuckers will have spent months preparing their spin but still here it is out in the open at last

and the Gove maths out Raab (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:33 (seven years ago) link

The party line seems to be laying all the blame on MI6.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:36 (seven years ago) link

^^That's so ridiculous

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:37 (seven years ago) link

yeah i noticed a bit where Chilcot suggests that the intelligence services hadn't made the dubiousness of the WMD evidence clear to the gov. don't buy it.

and the Gove maths out Raab (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:40 (seven years ago) link


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