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for all of michael gove's "we've had enough of experts" he could easily be mistaken either for someone who thinks he's an expert or, by an idiot, an expert

conrad, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:23 (eight years ago) link

his idea to reform the history syllabus to get rid of all that social history guff and instead to teach an unabashed apologia of empire through the study of battles and great men mustve endeared him to the faithful

♫ Corbyn's on fire / PLP is terrified ♫ (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:36 (eight years ago) link

met and spent some time a couple of years ago the ceo of ofqual who seemingly was a fan of michael gove - looked her up just now and she has recently been "made a dame" for "services to education" and is now...chief inspector of probation which presumably means they still get to hang out together

conrad, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:45 (eight years ago) link

lol so cool that we'll be taking back control from unaccountable bureaucrats in brussels

So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:58 (eight years ago) link

I didn't realise Gl3nys had left, which shows how much attention i pay.

Crabb and Fox have both backed May now.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 19:47 (eight years ago) link

it's a little sad that Crabb and Fox leaving the race this early has deprived us on animal name based jokes and headlines. There is a species of fox called the "Crab-eating fox", I would have enjoyed seeing pictures of this fellow on the yahoo homepage etc:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Crab-eating_Fox.JPG/460px-Crab-eating_Fox.JPG

http://www.mainlesson.com/books/raju/fables/zpage028.gif

soref, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 20:13 (eight years ago) link

Anyone else reckon Crabb was at risk of tabloid embarrassment due to a very specific type of hypocrisy?

jedi slimane (suzy), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 21:47 (eight years ago) link

i did wonder

and the Gove maths out Raab (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 21:48 (eight years ago) link

Leadsom's shady behaviour about her tax return probably hasn't done her any favours. What's the big deal? She is a Tory after all.

Listening to Gove not seem to realise he is finished was nice. I am starting to think that the fucking idiot actually thought he could pull this off, rather than just stopping Boris.

calzino, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 22:07 (eight years ago) link

(xp) Said it the first time I clapped eyes on him.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 22:11 (eight years ago) link

Couple of verrrry interesting threads on my FB timeline cough*closet*cough

jedi slimane (suzy), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 22:26 (eight years ago) link

advocate for homosexuality cure in 'might be homosexual' shocker

brexit through the rift shock (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 22:39 (eight years ago) link

instagram affirmation culture comes to brexit

https://twitter.com/SteveHiltonx/status/750472858480943104

the hallouminati (lex pretend), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 07:28 (eight years ago) link

yes and ho

imago, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 07:31 (eight years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/birdnestsoup/sad.jpg

lonely car just thinking baout things

coygbiv (NickB), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 08:52 (eight years ago) link

sadness in its eyes

the hallouminati (lex pretend), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 08:53 (eight years ago) link

Disappointed, was looking forward to a few more days of Crab jokes to lighten the general gloom

So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 09:16 (eight years ago) link

the claws are out

conrad, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 09:30 (eight years ago) link

He's getting a bit of stick

So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 09:53 (eight years ago) link

he's going to need a hard shell if he... oh what's the point?

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:07 (eight years ago) link

https://mobile.twitter.com/PickardJE/status/750608854036152320/photo/1

A suggestion that advertised job vacancies halved following the referendum.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:07 (eight years ago) link

guys

chilcot's going in quite hard

imago, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:17 (eight years ago) link

Yep. Has come as close as he is able within his remit to saying the war was illegal, badly planned and justified with spun evidence.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:26 (eight years ago) link

Which we all knew already but it'll be interesting to see how the likes of Mike Gapes and John McTernan who were on the news earlier saying they'd do it all over again respond.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:27 (eight years ago) link

some of these fuckers will have spent months preparing their spin but still here it is out in the open at last

and the Gove maths out Raab (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:33 (eight years ago) link

The party line seems to be laying all the blame on MI6.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:36 (eight years ago) link

^^That's so ridiculous

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:37 (eight years ago) link

yeah i noticed a bit where Chilcot suggests that the intelligence services hadn't made the dubiousness of the WMD evidence clear to the gov. don't buy it.

and the Gove maths out Raab (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:40 (eight years ago) link

Dude on bbc now saying Blair, unbeknown to anyone else, was already gearing up, pushing and accelerating "this drift to war". Pre-ordained agenda etc. Using MI6 as a shelter to make decisions etc etc etc. the ugly truth.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:46 (eight years ago) link

what are the irl consequences likely to be for blair?

coygbiv (NickB), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:48 (eight years ago) link

None.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:48 (eight years ago) link

xp, it's hardly like nobody else knew. It was obvious to everyone and should have been obvious to the cabinet and Parliament.

I don't think there'll be any damage to Blair, other than his reputation. It's possible there might be civil suits brought against him but that would be tough.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:50 (eight years ago) link

Joshua Rosenberg thinks the rapport opens a door to prosecute: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/06/iraq-war-inquiry-chilcot-tony-blair-prosecute

Can't see it happening tbh.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:51 (eight years ago) link

there's a case, i'm sure, but zero will to bring it from the people that could

and the Gove maths out Raab (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:57 (eight years ago) link

Relative of a dead soldier at press conference: "Tony Blair is the world's worst terrorist."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38820000/jpg/_38820833_blair_afp.jpg

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:58 (eight years ago) link

Stat meant from Bliar: http://www.tonyblairoffice.org/news/entry/statement-from-tony-blair-on-chilcot-report/

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 11:03 (eight years ago) link

Statement*

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 11:03 (eight years ago) link

*B.Liar

imago, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 11:06 (eight years ago) link

if that fatuous corrupt fuck had any sense he'd keep his mouth shut but i guess the old gaslighting spin technique is hard to let go

and the Gove maths out Raab (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 11:10 (eight years ago) link

The AG did say that there was a legal basis for war and used the expert opinion of Sir Chr1st0pher Gr33nwood to justify that. There is absolutely no doubt that he was picked specifically because he was open to that interpretation of the UN resolutions when the overwhelming majority of international lawyers would have dismissed them. AFAIK, Sir Chr1st0pher has publicly stood by the advice he gave but there's no way he would have considered it a legally solid assessment. Prior to the Iraq advice he told me personally that the UK's reading into the Afghanistan resolutions of a justification for war stretched credibility and would almost certainly be contrary to the intentions of the signatories (which is the key criteria). Afghanistan was much more clear cut than Iraq. There has never been a credible legal basis for Iraq and Blair cherry picked his legal advice like he cherry picked his intelligence advice.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 11:12 (eight years ago) link

lol russia i guess

https://twitter.com/RussianEmbassy/status/750643372948348928/

coygbiv (NickB), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 11:24 (eight years ago) link

Ian Austin (Labour MP) shouts 'sit down and shut up, you're a disgrace' at Corbyn as he speaks on Iraq enquiry

That's the good stuff.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 12:16 (eight years ago) link

guess how austin voted on iraq!

the hallouminati (lex pretend), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 12:17 (eight years ago) link

best and indeed only acceptable use of keep calm meme from the russian embassy there, best trolls on twitter since day

the hallouminati (lex pretend), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 12:18 (eight years ago) link

List of Labour MPs who voted for the war makes gruesome reading.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 12:24 (eight years ago) link

Corbyn trying to give them all an out by saying parliament was misled

stet, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 12:29 (eight years ago) link

russian embarrassy more like

nashwan, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 12:30 (eight years ago) link

googling how Labour MPs vote has been a recurring theme for so long now that about 90% of my search returns are in purple text.

calzino, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 12:40 (eight years ago) link


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