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yeah i noticed a bit where Chilcot suggests that the intelligence services hadn't made the dubiousness of the WMD evidence clear to the gov. don't buy it.

Dude on bbc now saying Blair, unbeknown to anyone else, was already gearing up, pushing and accelerating "this drift to war". Pre-ordained agenda etc. Using MI6 as a shelter to make decisions etc etc etc. the ugly truth.

what are the irl consequences likely to be for blair?

None.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38820000/jpg/_38820833_blair_afp.jpg

xp, it's hardly like nobody else knew. It was obvious to everyone and should have been obvious to the cabinet and Parliament.

I don't think there'll be any damage to Blair, other than his reputation. It's possible there might be civil suits brought against him but that would be tough.

Joshua Rosenberg thinks the rapport opens a door to prosecute: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/06/iraq-war-inquiry-chilcot-tony-blair-prosecute

Can't see it happening tbh.

there's a case, i'm sure, but zero will to bring it from the people that could

Relative of a dead soldier at press conference: "Tony Blair is the world's worst terrorist."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38820000/jpg/_38820833_blair_afp.jpg

Stat meant from Bliar: http://www.tonyblairoffice.org/news/entry/statement-from-tony-blair-on-chilcot-report/

Statement*

*B.Liar

if that fatuous corrupt fuck had any sense he'd keep his mouth shut but i guess the old gaslighting spin technique is hard to let go

The AG did say that there was a legal basis for war and used the expert opinion of Sir Chr1st0pher Gr33nwood to justify that. There is absolutely no doubt that he was picked specifically because he was open to that interpretation of the UN resolutions when the overwhelming majority of international lawyers would have dismissed them. AFAIK, Sir Chr1st0pher has publicly stood by the advice he gave but there's no way he would have considered it a legally solid assessment. Prior to the Iraq advice he told me personally that the UK's reading into the Afghanistan resolutions of a justification for war stretched credibility and would almost certainly be contrary to the intentions of the signatories (which is the key criteria). Afghanistan was much more clear cut than Iraq. There has never been a credible legal basis for Iraq and Blair cherry picked his legal advice like he cherry picked his intelligence advice.

lol russia i guess

https://twitter.com/RussianEmbassy/status/750643372948348928/

Ian Austin (Labour MP) shouts 'sit down and shut up, you're a disgrace' at Corbyn as he speaks on Iraq enquiry

That's the good stuff.

guess how austin voted on iraq!

best and indeed only acceptable use of keep calm meme from the russian embassy there, best trolls on twitter since day

List of Labour MPs who voted for the war makes gruesome reading.

Corbyn trying to give them all an out by saying parliament was misled

russian embarrassy more like

googling how Labour MPs vote has been a recurring theme for so long now that about 90% of my search returns are in purple text.

Campbell blaming the intelligence agencies, quel surprise.

Blair: "nobody should blame the British armed forces" - they're not, you douche

then 20 minutes of 9/11 changed everything

Same old garbage from Blair but at inordinate and deadening length this time round.

Somebody should have pulled the trigger right after he'd finished his very first sentence, which was about "our decision to remove Saddam from power".

Blair and Corbyn mirroring one another in mourning dress; the former for himself, the latter for everyone else.

Campbell appears to come out of this fairly lightly if anything, surprised there's so little focus on him in the report.

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Iraq. In my name. Proud to have supported liberation of a country from fascism. I thought that was what being on the left was about.

Blair trying to bore people into submission with a history lesson which, appropriately enough, has an almost Old Testament quality to it.

Campbell's blog post
http://www.alastaircampbell.org/blog/2016/07/06/many-mistakes-yes-but-no-lies-no-deceit-no-secret-deals-no-sexing-up-and-ultimately-a-matter-of-leadership-and-judgement/

Keeps going back to how Blair was right to 'stand up to Saddam, worst dictator ever' like it makes any sense.

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Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt has told MPs the Government will impose a contract on junior doctors across England

wonder what else we can sneak out under the radar today

Someone chuck a shoe at the cunt and shut him up.

Just sent him to an ISIS-controlled area and let him work it out for himself.

he absolutely rejects any connection between completely destabilizing Iraq and any terrorism that may have happened along afterward

https://i.imgur.com/LCA49CU.jpg

fucking hell, some people actually believe that apologist bullshit as well

foresight is always 20:20

He keeps being asked what exactly he is apologizing for, he keeps answering for the mistakes that were made, he's then asked what mistakes are those and was he responsible for any of them, brick wall.

George W's birthday today.

surely the apogee of the style of political speech wherein a demeanour and tone which suggests information and opinion are being communicated and even that a response to something specific is being given while successfully saying nothing whatever of substance or meaning - the rest can only learn at the feet of the master

https://t.co/Vs2ibwLuwr

he doesn't miss, does he?

tb is bold as brass.

still raging about the iraq war tbh.

whatever else happens i'll be forever grateful to corbyn for that apology

yeah that is tempered in the summative fires of what's left of left-wing speechwriting

obv it wasn't written by Milne then :p

Corbz has probably been waiting for this moment for the whole last year, it's probably why he hasn't resigned because if I was him you would have to pull that opportunity from my cold dead fingers.

Perfect moment for Angela Eagle to take over.

ha

Yeah that whole thing went quiet pretty quickly.