Curb Your Authoritarianism? The 2016 Conventional Wisdom Thread (Elections, Part 6)

BTW I should apologize to Andrew Farrell. I thought AF was equating Comey's statements with "anyone else and we'd prosecute." AF noted that wasn't his opinion but rather the spin being spun on the right.

I looked into some fetid corners of the 'netz yesterday and he's exactly right: that is precisely how the dextrosphere is reading "this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences." OMG one law for the Clinton Crime syndicate and a different law for the rest of us, blah blah blah.

House Oversight Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) announced that FBI Director James Comey will testify before his panel on Thursday regarding the bureau's investigation of Hillary Clinton's email practices.

oh lol

Then we can investigate the investigation of the investigators. Wheels within wheels, man. The conspiracy goes to the top! The top I say!

have to wonder how much taxpayer money has been spent in the last two decades investigating the Clintons

Here is the 1999 figure: http://edition.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/04/01/counsel.probe.costs/

Add in these estimates of the current witchhunts: http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/07/05/Investigating-Clinton-How-Many-Millions-Were-Spent-Email-Benghazi-Probes

Anything happen in 2000-2010?

Anyway, upwards of $100 million apparently.

http://www.salon.com/2015/03/12/the_george_w_bush_email_scandal_the_media_has_conveniently_forgotten_partner/?wpmm=1&wpisrc=nl_daily202

I hate all internet jargon and acronyms, and try not to make any effort to understand any of it. Clinton speaking in Atlantic City--that's trolling, right?

no. trump doesn't have any special claim to the great city of atlantic city.

Trolling Bruce Springsteen, that's what I meant.

the job no one wants

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/06/corker-withdraws-as-potential-trump-running-mate/

for any elected pol who isn't in the deep south, accepting the spot has a very high chance of killing their career

Trump/Gingrich would be amazing, if we can go back to that for a second

yeah fingers crossed!

I fondly remember the time in 2012 when a strange man walked up to me at a gas station and asked "are ya voting for Newt?"

now picturing lonely Newt, just hanging around gas stations asking baout votes

xp I hope you looked at him thoughtfully for half a minute, chewing on a sprig of grass, pushed your hat back on your head and said, "Nope."

xp he looked kinda like Newt in a curly wig

or with a Jheri curl

more jill stein lols:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/07/06/why-hillary-clinton-should-be-prosecuted-for-reckless-abuse-of-national-security/

Newt Gingrich with a Jheri curl

who do we have to talk to to make this happen, because it HAS to happen

I've started to get trump video ads on my facebook feed, god only knows why

http://i.imgur.com/QqkSx68.jpg

kinda amazing how far down the unprofessional trumpiness leaks, most local business ads look better than this

unlike newt jheri curl I am not seeing the lols in the jill stein piece

jill stein: national security hawk who definitely has no ulterior reason for wanting clinton prosecuted

He believes he was the reason The Apprentice had the best, classiest production values is all because of him. But he can't tell the difference from zircon cufflinks and gold sharpie ink! Dunning-Kruger all over the place.

wanting to prosecute hillary over this shit is tacit approval of the over-designation of every motherfucking document under the sun being 'CLASSIFIED'

mordy those are not jill stein worthy lols, I suspect whoever is the least funny cockburn ghostwrote that, it's typical counterpunch lash out in the dark tactics, par for the course

I'm still hoping for Trump/Sheen '16

I suspect whoever is the least funny cockburn

olivia wilde is a hill supporter dawg

also she is kinda funny in portlandia idk

it's typical counterpunch lash out in the dark tactics, par for the course

Not OK to be buying the right wing narrative - no way.

Joni Ernst took herself out of VP consideration

I hear there's a lot of that going around.

Trump raised $51 million in last couple weeks of June (not sure how many of that is from scottish MPs)

er how much

in other news
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/bernie-sanders-booed-house-democrats-225161

I like that the URL makes it sound like Sanders was the one doing the booing

oh man: Paul Ryan wants Clapper to deny Clinton intelligence briefings.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-07-06/ryan-calls-on-clapper-to-bar-classified-briefings-for-clinton

Hillary Clinton’s failure to protect critical security information is not the only thing in her tenure as Secretary that deserves the term reckless, including her decision to pursue catastrophic regime change in Libya, and to support the overthrow of democratically elected governments in Ukraine and Honduras.

Is Jill Stein pro-Putin?

there's a left-wing meme that putin is acting out bc of nato's aggressive actions on his borders and that the west incited the protests in ukraine

isn't congress supposed to be in remission this week?

lol "remission"

there's a left-wing meme that putin is acting out bc of nato's aggressive actions on his borders and that the west incited the protests in ukraine

― Mordy, 6. juli 2016 22:32 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Are the Greens really that stupid? Sigh. Good luck, guys.

Congress will metastasize in the fall

xp

It's unquestionably true that the U.S did support the overthrow of the democratically elected Ukrainian government. The argument is whether it was right to do so. Clinton didn't really have much to do with it either way.

Xp

to what extent is that true? i remember reading a bit ago there was the nuland phone conversation leak but iirc that wasn't terribly conclusive? and maybe some circumstantial evidence regarding flyers? idk - can you link me to something that makes a slamdunk case that the US orchestrated, or participated in a meaningful way, in the coup?

Stein didn't claim it was orchestrated by the U.S., she claimed that it was supported. Nuland and Pyatt were literally down on the front lines handing out cookies. The phone call may have been ambiguous in relation to the degree to which they were pulling the strings but nobody was in any doubt from the public statements, before or after Yanukovich went, that they thought it was a good idea. There is an argument for saying they were right but it's not clear cut.

Not a lot in diplomacy is

Are the Greens really that stupid? Sigh. Good luck, guys.

there really aren't any US "greens" in terms of a complex party apparatus with a firm policy position. it's really just jill stein and a few folks around her.

For some reason they are covering this Ohio speech and he is more insane then ever