Rolling Brexit Links/UK politics in the neo-Weimar era

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Seeing Dubya in those tight blue jeans turned his head.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 22:17 (seven years ago) link

That and his psychotic will to create his legacy.

calzino, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 22:20 (seven years ago) link

at any cost.

calzino, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 22:21 (seven years ago) link

Oh he did that alright.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 22:24 (seven years ago) link

not to beat a dead horse but

that on is what throws people off i think

i mean spin lies
lies is the object right?

spinning on doesnt have an object

that preposition makes you doubt like

on should be in but then theres spinning not turning and why their
i dunno mebbe its a mistake but surely theyre wordsmiths

im just a casual reader

but spinning (a web of lies) from his/their graves

okay okay he is spinning a web of lies
spider like

and now hes on the graves of the dead british troops and civilians
big like
monster like

okay okay

i dunno

took a bit of thinkin but yer right i spose

im just a casual reader

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 22:31 (seven years ago) link

no it's just "spinning" as in what a spin doctor does. and he's doing it on the graves of people killed in the iraq war.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 23:09 (seven years ago) link

^^^

♫ Corbyn's on fire / PLP is terrified ♫ (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 23:10 (seven years ago) link

spin doctors

say no more

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 23:35 (seven years ago) link

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I thought that was Steve Kilbey posting for a moment there

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 7 July 2016 00:13 (seven years ago) link

Spoke to a friend who's head of a dept. at Glasgow Uni. They have people who've been working on establishing relationships with continental partners over the past decade, building Erasmus exchanges, funding research. All of it gone to shit in the past fortnight. So sad.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Thursday, 7 July 2016 00:38 (seven years ago) link

Are Erasmus schemes necessarily gone if Brexit goes ahead? The Uni I was at here in Galway had a lot of Americans who I assume were Erasmus. So wonder if it would mean a more complex story on funding rather than ending full stop?
Thought it a pretty vital part of some courses, languages especially.

Stevolende, Thursday, 7 July 2016 07:30 (seven years ago) link

American students have a separate Year Abroad programme. The UK could potentially still stay in Erasmus if it stays within the EEA (Norway, Turkey, etc still qualify) but leaving all forms of economic union / freedom of movement arrangements would probably end it.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 July 2016 07:34 (seven years ago) link

Jeez

No way of saying this without sounding incredibly mawkish but I've seen genuine understandings develop between people from different countries on Erasmus courses. Not just 3AM spliffepiphanies either, I mean like Turks and Greeks and Irish and Northern Irish young people having a multi-way discussion about their situations etc

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 7 July 2016 07:55 (seven years ago) link

(Which seemed somehow to be facilitated by being in the UK as a neutral backdrop with lots of pubs they could go in)

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 7 July 2016 07:56 (seven years ago) link

Interesting take on what neutral means to an irish person tbh

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 July 2016 07:58 (seven years ago) link

Erasmus is definitely A Good Thing but it's only one part of a broader international student picture and the whole sector is in turmoil. I was at a conference for international student support officers last week and nobody has an idea of what happens next. There has been a battle in the cabinet for years between May, who puts reducing migration numbers ahead of the economic benefits of international students, and Osborne, who prefers to have the $8bn a year they contribute to the country. If, as seems inevitable, May is the next PM, that has the potential to radically change the whole industry. Even without that, we probably have at least two years of uncertainty and sector-wide paralysis, not to mention the clear message that the UK is increasingly hostile towards outsiders. It's a gift to Ireland, tbh.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 July 2016 08:13 (seven years ago) link

some great nominative determinism:

As well as omitting mention of her family buy-to-let business, Leadsom’s CV also glosses over her directorship at Seaperfect, a company that invested heavily in clam and scallop farming in Chile and America during the 90s.

However, the company lost millions after the investments failed and her brother in law, Peter de Putron, subsequently took control of the business through an offshore vehicle called Wildernesse Holdings. Leadsom, working under her maiden name of Andrea Salmon, became a director of Seaperfect from February 1998 to May 1999.

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 7 July 2016 08:31 (seven years ago) link

put that in your lobster pot, stephen crabb

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 7 July 2016 08:33 (seven years ago) link

she still seems to be acting a bit koi about making her tax return public

calzino, Thursday, 7 July 2016 08:42 (seven years ago) link

yeah, it does all sound very fishy to me ..

mark e, Thursday, 7 July 2016 08:47 (seven years ago) link

I am pretty sure Marcus Fysh MP is one of the 66 who voted for her.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 July 2016 08:48 (seven years ago) link

C'mon, this is the party with an MP called Fabricant.

jedi slimane (suzy), Thursday, 7 July 2016 08:55 (seven years ago) link

you couldn't make it up

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 7 July 2016 08:59 (seven years ago) link

So called, i believe, because of his Fabricated hair

http://i1.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article336807.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/fabricant.jpg

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2016 09:02 (seven years ago) link

He is a fascinating creature, the Fabricant.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2016 09:02 (seven years ago) link

Its a combi word.

There's Fabri, from fabrication...

Mark G, Thursday, 7 July 2016 09:07 (seven years ago) link

& cant cos he loves Emmanuel but can't spell?

Stevolende, Thursday, 7 July 2016 10:05 (seven years ago) link

... and Cant, from his hypocritical and sanctimonious talk, right?

So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 7 July 2016 10:06 (seven years ago) link

At the very least.

Mark G, Thursday, 7 July 2016 10:32 (seven years ago) link

Feel like Peter de Putron is being overlooked here

kinder, Thursday, 7 July 2016 10:34 (seven years ago) link

Indeed, he's like something from some 13th century text.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2016 10:49 (seven years ago) link

Bloody Normans, coming over here with their yokes etc etc

jedi slimane (suzy), Thursday, 7 July 2016 10:52 (seven years ago) link

Leadsom said she did not like the gay marriage law. She would prefer to offer equality by letting heterosexual people have civil partnerships, she said.

Theresa May, the home secretary and favourite in the Tory leadership contest, has accused her rival Andrea Leadsom of being willing to let foreign criminals stay in the UK. Picking up on Leadsom’s declaration in her speech that she would let EU nationals who are in the UK legally remain after Brexit (see 9.49am), a spokesman for the May campaign said:

Andrea Leadsom’s commitment to give permanent residence to foreign criminals is concerning - and is exactly the kind of misjudgment that her inexperience can cause. That’s why we need strong, proven leadership - something only Theresa can offer.

What a fabulous choice the party has.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 July 2016 12:18 (seven years ago) link

oh the tory electorate will be loving this stuff

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 7 July 2016 12:20 (seven years ago) link

foreign criminals stealing the jobs of our fine english burglars

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 7 July 2016 12:21 (seven years ago) link

Or marrying them - i don't know which is considered worse these days.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 July 2016 12:26 (seven years ago) link

Maybe you shouldn't laugh but Leadsomites on the march.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2016 12:44 (seven years ago) link

If that was old b/w Pathe footage none of them would sound out of time, timeless braying poshos!

calzino, Thursday, 7 July 2016 13:13 (seven years ago) link

jesus how do you reason with some of these people if not at gunpoint?

and the Gove maths out Raab (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 July 2016 13:13 (seven years ago) link

Leadsomites on the march

read this as "Leadsodomites"

soref, Thursday, 7 July 2016 13:18 (seven years ago) link

Leadsomoids

So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 7 July 2016 13:20 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmxAy9AWcAAB4kV.jpg

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 7 July 2016 13:46 (seven years ago) link

new shakespeare play

imago, Thursday, 7 July 2016 13:49 (seven years ago) link

;)

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 7 July 2016 13:51 (seven years ago) link

could totally see a play in the vein of king charles iii

conrad, Thursday, 7 July 2016 13:59 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmxC0HXWEAA6QAf.jpg

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 7 July 2016 14:01 (seven years ago) link

otm but it's like poking a nest of very radge ants

and the Gove maths out Raab (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 July 2016 14:42 (seven years ago) link

things i've learned about andrea leadsom today:

- her cv has so many holes she must have stolen it from the trypophobia thread
- disagrees with gay marriage as it's insensitive to homophobes
- wants to scrap hs2, eh so what
- intends to hold a vote to repeal the ban on fox hunting
- hates molluscs

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:14 (seven years ago) link


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