Rolling Brexit Links/UK politics in the neo-Weimar era

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Interesting take on what neutral means to an irish person tbh

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 July 2016 07:58 (eight years ago) link

Erasmus is definitely A Good Thing but it's only one part of a broader international student picture and the whole sector is in turmoil. I was at a conference for international student support officers last week and nobody has an idea of what happens next. There has been a battle in the cabinet for years between May, who puts reducing migration numbers ahead of the economic benefits of international students, and Osborne, who prefers to have the $8bn a year they contribute to the country. If, as seems inevitable, May is the next PM, that has the potential to radically change the whole industry. Even without that, we probably have at least two years of uncertainty and sector-wide paralysis, not to mention the clear message that the UK is increasingly hostile towards outsiders. It's a gift to Ireland, tbh.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 July 2016 08:13 (eight years ago) link

some great nominative determinism:

As well as omitting mention of her family buy-to-let business, Leadsom’s CV also glosses over her directorship at Seaperfect, a company that invested heavily in clam and scallop farming in Chile and America during the 90s.

However, the company lost millions after the investments failed and her brother in law, Peter de Putron, subsequently took control of the business through an offshore vehicle called Wildernesse Holdings. Leadsom, working under her maiden name of Andrea Salmon, became a director of Seaperfect from February 1998 to May 1999.

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 7 July 2016 08:31 (eight years ago) link

put that in your lobster pot, stephen crabb

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 7 July 2016 08:33 (eight years ago) link

she still seems to be acting a bit koi about making her tax return public

calzino, Thursday, 7 July 2016 08:42 (eight years ago) link

yeah, it does all sound very fishy to me ..

mark e, Thursday, 7 July 2016 08:47 (eight years ago) link

I am pretty sure Marcus Fysh MP is one of the 66 who voted for her.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 July 2016 08:48 (eight years ago) link

C'mon, this is the party with an MP called Fabricant.

jedi slimane (suzy), Thursday, 7 July 2016 08:55 (eight years ago) link

you couldn't make it up

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 7 July 2016 08:59 (eight years ago) link

So called, i believe, because of his Fabricated hair

http://i1.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article336807.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/fabricant.jpg

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2016 09:02 (eight years ago) link

He is a fascinating creature, the Fabricant.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2016 09:02 (eight years ago) link

Its a combi word.

There's Fabri, from fabrication...

Mark G, Thursday, 7 July 2016 09:07 (eight years ago) link

& cant cos he loves Emmanuel but can't spell?

Stevolende, Thursday, 7 July 2016 10:05 (eight years ago) link

... and Cant, from his hypocritical and sanctimonious talk, right?

So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 7 July 2016 10:06 (eight years ago) link

At the very least.

Mark G, Thursday, 7 July 2016 10:32 (eight years ago) link

Feel like Peter de Putron is being overlooked here

kinder, Thursday, 7 July 2016 10:34 (eight years ago) link

Indeed, he's like something from some 13th century text.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2016 10:49 (eight years ago) link

Bloody Normans, coming over here with their yokes etc etc

jedi slimane (suzy), Thursday, 7 July 2016 10:52 (eight years ago) link

Leadsom said she did not like the gay marriage law. She would prefer to offer equality by letting heterosexual people have civil partnerships, she said.

Theresa May, the home secretary and favourite in the Tory leadership contest, has accused her rival Andrea Leadsom of being willing to let foreign criminals stay in the UK. Picking up on Leadsom’s declaration in her speech that she would let EU nationals who are in the UK legally remain after Brexit (see 9.49am), a spokesman for the May campaign said:

Andrea Leadsom’s commitment to give permanent residence to foreign criminals is concerning - and is exactly the kind of misjudgment that her inexperience can cause. That’s why we need strong, proven leadership - something only Theresa can offer.

What a fabulous choice the party has.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 July 2016 12:18 (eight years ago) link

oh the tory electorate will be loving this stuff

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 7 July 2016 12:20 (eight years ago) link

foreign criminals stealing the jobs of our fine english burglars

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 7 July 2016 12:21 (eight years ago) link

Or marrying them - i don't know which is considered worse these days.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 July 2016 12:26 (eight years ago) link

Maybe you shouldn't laugh but Leadsomites on the march.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2016 12:44 (eight years ago) link

If that was old b/w Pathe footage none of them would sound out of time, timeless braying poshos!

calzino, Thursday, 7 July 2016 13:13 (eight years ago) link

jesus how do you reason with some of these people if not at gunpoint?

and the Gove maths out Raab (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 July 2016 13:13 (eight years ago) link

Leadsomites on the march

read this as "Leadsodomites"

soref, Thursday, 7 July 2016 13:18 (eight years ago) link

Leadsomoids

So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 7 July 2016 13:20 (eight years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmxAy9AWcAAB4kV.jpg

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 7 July 2016 13:46 (eight years ago) link

new shakespeare play

imago, Thursday, 7 July 2016 13:49 (eight years ago) link

;)

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 7 July 2016 13:51 (eight years ago) link

could totally see a play in the vein of king charles iii

conrad, Thursday, 7 July 2016 13:59 (eight years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmxC0HXWEAA6QAf.jpg

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 7 July 2016 14:01 (eight years ago) link

otm but it's like poking a nest of very radge ants

and the Gove maths out Raab (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 July 2016 14:42 (eight years ago) link

things i've learned about andrea leadsom today:

- her cv has so many holes she must have stolen it from the trypophobia thread
- disagrees with gay marriage as it's insensitive to homophobes
- wants to scrap hs2, eh so what
- intends to hold a vote to repeal the ban on fox hunting
- hates molluscs

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:14 (eight years ago) link

- disagrees with gay marriage as it's insensitive to homophobes

It's the new thing! Decrying racism is suppression of the racist's freedom of expression, for example. Very insensitive.

There must be some magic clue inside these gentle walls (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:18 (eight years ago) link

I'm for civil partnerships being extended to heterosexual couples but wouldn't like it to happen for her purpose in that way it's a bit like leaving the eu writ small

conrad, Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:24 (eight years ago) link

Leadsom beats Gove to join May on shortlist for Conservative leadership ballot

Here are the results.

Theresa May - 199

Andrea Leadsom - 84

Michael Gove - 46

lol gove

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:24 (eight years ago) link

Leadsom has the party shook. Gove's campaign manager was sending texts last night to May voters which boiled down to 'i don't care if you back Gove or not, we can't let this woman on the ballot so vote for him'.

She's not really less liberal than May or much more of a crackpot than Gove but the campaign to ridicule her has been fairly effective today (helped in large part by the fact she's ridiculous).

xp, lol

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:25 (eight years ago) link

this story about leadsom's connection to a gay-cure church group is doing the rounds btw

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jamesball/andrea-leadsoms-ugandan-project-has-ties-to-an-anti-gay-chri?utm_term=.paeBzddKb#.ceaQ2WWBp

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:25 (eight years ago) link

How can Brexit be getting worse? Fuck's sake, Tories.

stet, Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:28 (eight years ago) link

Gove out.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:29 (eight years ago) link

Not to play Captain Save A Leadsom but the culture May has fostered where women who have long hair or wear makeup are at risk of being deemed insufficienty lesbian enough to avoid deportation to countries where their physical safety at risk doesn't really mark her out as much of an ally either.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:39 (eight years ago) link

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03583/gove_3583746b.jpg

man was such a zealot that shortly after this photo was taken, he ended up binning himself

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:39 (eight years ago) link

May is *awful* but Leadsom, from my extensive three-day experience appears not only awful but also really terrifyingly dim.

stet, Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:44 (eight years ago) link

Not that intelligence in the service of evil is a virtue

and the Gove maths out Raab (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:46 (eight years ago) link

Missed the 'fuck marry kill' portion of this contest.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:47 (eight years ago) link

There's really no good outcome here unless we get a snap election that some non-Tory thing wins.

I'm more concerned by the dimness, though. Leadsom appears to think that we just need to buck up, dig deep, put our backs into it, roll our sleeves up, buy British and be optimistic for all the Brexit problems to go away. May has horrible answers, but does appear to understand the questions.

stet, Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:49 (eight years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmxayBjWIAEV9i_.jpg

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:50 (eight years ago) link

Leadsom appears to have the support of both Nadine Dorries *and* Louise Mensch so we're probably doomed.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:50 (eight years ago) link


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