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How can Brexit be getting worse? Fuck's sake, Tories.

stet, Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:28 (eight years ago) link

Gove out.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:29 (eight years ago) link

Not to play Captain Save A Leadsom but the culture May has fostered where women who have long hair or wear makeup are at risk of being deemed insufficienty lesbian enough to avoid deportation to countries where their physical safety at risk doesn't really mark her out as much of an ally either.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:39 (eight years ago) link

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03583/gove_3583746b.jpg

man was such a zealot that shortly after this photo was taken, he ended up binning himself

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:39 (eight years ago) link

May is *awful* but Leadsom, from my extensive three-day experience appears not only awful but also really terrifyingly dim.

stet, Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:44 (eight years ago) link

Not that intelligence in the service of evil is a virtue

and the Gove maths out Raab (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:46 (eight years ago) link

Missed the 'fuck marry kill' portion of this contest.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:47 (eight years ago) link

There's really no good outcome here unless we get a snap election that some non-Tory thing wins.

I'm more concerned by the dimness, though. Leadsom appears to think that we just need to buck up, dig deep, put our backs into it, roll our sleeves up, buy British and be optimistic for all the Brexit problems to go away. May has horrible answers, but does appear to understand the questions.

stet, Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:49 (eight years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmxayBjWIAEV9i_.jpg

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:50 (eight years ago) link

Leadsom appears to have the support of both Nadine Dorries *and* Louise Mensch so we're probably doomed.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:50 (eight years ago) link

this is really scraping the barrel in terms of finding something to be optimistic about but may has displayed more of a willingness to pivot to wherever is politically expedient; she may have encapsulated the nastiest of the nasty party in recent years but she coined the phrase in the first place. it's not much of a silver lining given where might be politically expedient.

the hallouminati (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:53 (eight years ago) link

BYE GOVE THO

the hallouminati (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:53 (eight years ago) link

I can't think of many things May has pivoted on. She is deeply committed to restricting human rights and immigration. She just never votes against the party line.

Idk, a friend's fiancee was put in handcuffs, detained for two days and deported yesterday because she hadn't booked the return part of her trip and a couple of her friends couldn't agree on when she had said she was going back. It is hard to warm to her.

Leadsom is continuity 90s Tory but that doesn't sound like the worst possible outcome right now.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:58 (eight years ago) link

I've been reading the FT every day since the Brexit vote (American who'd prefer to understand what's happening without trying to slog through the mire of US media), and I missed a day because I was out of town...was Leadsom's name even floated before this week? What on earth is happening over there, you guys?

There must be some magic clue inside these gentle walls (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 July 2016 15:59 (eight years ago) link

A Leadsom win would lead to the almost certainly unprecedented situation where both party leaders have the support of the majority of their members and a minority of their MPs, which surely isn't sustainable for very long? General Election before the year's out is my guess.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:01 (eight years ago) link

she was floated but wasn't expected to make it to the postal election of the final 2 with boris in the race. the guardian put together "reading lists" about her earlier this week when it became clear she was in the running.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:02 (eight years ago) link

Leadsom was one of the few prominent Leave Tories considered presentable enough to take part in debates. Two of the others stabbed each other in the back and the third has already had a go at being leader.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:04 (eight years ago) link

my hunch is that leadsom will be a huge disaster and make the tories eminently beatable. but will that just open the door for the return of boris?

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:04 (eight years ago) link

Praying for inertia: the joy of UK politics

and the Gove maths out Raab (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:04 (eight years ago) link

admittedly i don't live in the UK any more, but i discovered this morning that i'd been pronouncing her name wrong all week simply because i'd never heard anyone else say it out loud. that's how famous she is.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:05 (eight years ago) link

led or leed?

♫ Corbyn's on fire / PLP is terrified ♫ (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:11 (eight years ago) link

I don't remember. I'd been transposing the s and the d, so a more basic error.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:17 (eight years ago) link

that makes jim's question all the more pressing imo

O, Barack: flaws (wins), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:19 (eight years ago) link

There's no way of knowing

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:20 (eight years ago) link

Or caring.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:21 (eight years ago) link

Readers of Private Eye, I know there's not many of them these days, will have been aware of her and her husband long before the rest of us.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:22 (eight years ago) link

'Andrea Leadsom' is an anagram of 'some anal dread'.

Matt DC, Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:28 (eight years ago) link

BRB there's people on FB that need telling about that anagram.

a nice cup of tea and a sit-in (suzy), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:32 (eight years ago) link

Thank you.

some anal dread (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:32 (eight years ago) link

if someone had told me 12 months ago that May was going to be the sensible choice i would have laffed my socks off.

and yeah, i would love to share that anagram with my FB crew, but my blood relatives are raging right wing twats, and would never talk to me again ...

(hmm ... )

mark e, Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:58 (eight years ago) link

Also available in 'some dread anal'.

a nice cup of tea and a sit-in (suzy), Thursday, 7 July 2016 17:08 (eight years ago) link

anyone have any examples of this from the dreda say mitchell article: "The barrage of hatred and intolerance unleashed by sections of the remain vote against the working class has been horrifying." ?

not sure in what sense the working class is less europeanised than the middle class

ogmor, Thursday, 7 July 2016 17:33 (eight years ago) link

Whatever europeanised means.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2016 17:36 (eight years ago) link

harsh: http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2016/07/more-on-chilcot

El Tomboto, Thursday, 7 July 2016 17:43 (eight years ago) link

It's the new thing! 1) Do/say/support something objectionable, 2) wait for opponents to object, 3) construct a strawman of your opponents objecting in a fashion similar to objectionable thing you did/said/supported and feign aghast disbelief and hope no one calls you out for your overt fabrication.

some anal dread (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 July 2016 17:45 (eight years ago) link

I think 'Andrea Jacqueline Leadsom (Min. Energy)' is an anagram of 'Real England joy (mad EEA racism queen in)', which would be trenchant social commentary applied to either of them, but i haven't counted the letters particularly diligently.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 July 2016 18:22 (eight years ago) link

^my hero

imago, Thursday, 7 July 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link

Twitter person sitting next to obvious Westminster Tory has snapped this intriguing photo:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmyBrpQXEAE7Cst.jpg

a nice cup of tea and a sit-in (suzy), Thursday, 7 July 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link

fuck.
even more of t0by y0ung re schools ..

mark e, Thursday, 7 July 2016 19:06 (eight years ago) link

Talk to Toby Young. That's just going too far.

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link

Wonder if this was a Goveite?

a nice cup of tea and a sit-in (suzy), Thursday, 7 July 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link

'for her'

imago, Thursday, 7 July 2016 19:11 (eight years ago) link

poll, obviously

imago, Thursday, 7 July 2016 19:11 (eight years ago) link

I'm suspicious. Boris supports Leadsom, Young seems to think she's crazy. Idk why you would put references to someone who has described you as a lunatic in your platform.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 July 2016 19:14 (eight years ago) link

Glad to see they're addressing the important issues like poverty, housing, unemployment,
the nhs, climate change, racism, chilcot, public transport, impending economic oblivian et cet

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 7 July 2016 19:17 (eight years ago) link

don't see why leadsom wouldn't want to 'win around' someone from the tory right who's been critical

imago, Thursday, 7 July 2016 19:17 (eight years ago) link

they're addressing racism, nick!

imago, Thursday, 7 July 2016 19:17 (eight years ago) link

I've been reading the FT every day since the Brexit vote (American who'd prefer to understand what's happening without trying to slog through the mire of US media), and I missed a day because I was out of town...was Leadsom's name even floated before this week? What on earth is happening over there, you guys?

― There must be some magic clue inside these gentle walls (Old Lunch)

i feel like some of it is that nobody actually wants to run the country after this vote? because whoever is next is going to have invoke 50, and nobody wants to be responsible for that particular disaster?

i'm mostly staying out of it because america has our own disasters to deal with, but i must say i am amused by the little cadaver synod corbyn has going on right now. (incidentally whenever i forget corbyn's name, which is often, and have to google him, google immediately comes back to tell me ed miliband is the leader of the labour party. i'm not sure if that says more about google, or about corbyn.)

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Thursday, 7 July 2016 19:18 (eight years ago) link

But come on, we must slay the evil of political correctness to truly make our island proud

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 7 July 2016 19:19 (eight years ago) link

It's just incredible to me that article 50 ranks third there. The monumental upheaval it will unleash ranks behind some shit about Sharia law.

This has to be Leadsome, yeah?

stet, Thursday, 7 July 2016 19:37 (eight years ago) link


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