Rolling Brexit Links/UK politics in the neo-Weimar era

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (7365 of them)

But come on, we must slay the evil of political correctness to truly make our island proud

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 7 July 2016 19:19 (eight years ago) link

It's just incredible to me that article 50 ranks third there. The monumental upheaval it will unleash ranks behind some shit about Sharia law.

This has to be Leadsome, yeah?

stet, Thursday, 7 July 2016 19:37 (eight years ago) link

"Theresa May was right"

Oh baby, if only you knew / Gabnebb hit a hundred-and-two (stevie), Thursday, 7 July 2016 19:40 (eight years ago) link

That's some properly shit handwriting btw

Oh baby, if only you knew / Gabnebb hit a hundred-and-two (stevie), Thursday, 7 July 2016 19:40 (eight years ago) link

Even as his standing in British politics slid in the run up to the publication of Chilcot’s inquiry into the Iraq war, the earnings soared in one of Blair’s key companies, Windrush Ventures. The turnover of the entity, through which Blair’s post-premiership commercial activities are conducted, rose £5m in 2015 to £19.4m, and profits tripled to £2.6m. Since leaving power, the 63-year-old and his family have also built up a property portfolio worth an estimated £27m.

He isn't up there with the Clintons, but he has become a very profitable international bullshit merchant since stepping down. Good luck to the people taking civil lawsuits against him, but psycho robber barons like this piece of shit always win, sadly.

calzino, Thursday, 7 July 2016 19:57 (eight years ago) link

WINDRUSH Ventures? This must be some kind of next-level trolling.

a nice cup of tea and a sit-in (suzy), Thursday, 7 July 2016 20:17 (eight years ago) link

https://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/11/25/1259143969787/Blair-cash4-251109.gif
"The business dealings of the former PM are shrouded in mystery because his companies are meshed together in such a complex fashion"

calzino, Thursday, 7 July 2016 20:36 (eight years ago) link

Guys, while you're all concentrating on the possibilities of Andrea Leadsom anagrams, I think you've missed an amazing one. An anagram of Theresa May is...

...
...
...

THERE'S A YAM.

emil.y, Thursday, 7 July 2016 20:46 (eight years ago) link

(sorry)

emil.y, Thursday, 7 July 2016 20:47 (eight years ago) link

The Arse, May

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2016 20:49 (eight years ago) link

I wonder if Theresa May has ever heard of Karen Finlay? :p

calzino, Thursday, 7 July 2016 20:54 (eight years ago) link

Andrea Leadsom/Theresa May = "some arse may dread the anal"

emil.y, Thursday, 7 July 2016 20:54 (eight years ago) link

:D

imago, Thursday, 7 July 2016 20:54 (eight years ago) link

LOL

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2016 20:56 (eight years ago) link

It's also AH YES, MASTER but that's just scary.

a nice cup of tea and a sit-in (suzy), Thursday, 7 July 2016 20:57 (eight years ago) link

LOL x2

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2016 20:58 (eight years ago) link

I posted this on the previous thread but it's really worth watching. Pascal Lamy can't believe what leadsom is saying - because she doesn't have a clue what she's talking about. His body language and facial expressions are priceless.

https://youtu.be/Z6LVNpfES8k

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Thursday, 7 July 2016 21:43 (eight years ago) link

A+ anagrams itt.

The US looks like it's dodging the bullet (this time) but I honestly fear that you guys are going to see Trump's horrifying 'I don't know fucking anything but I don't care because I think I'm right' attitude put into practice. If we have to elect sociopaths, can't we go back to electing those that have some air of authority about them?

some anal dread (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 July 2016 00:47 (eight years ago) link

feel like the enduring black mark of 47% of the electorate having got behind muslim deportation resonates in a way things didn't beyond other recent election cycles. can't imagine feeling comfortable in a country in which this wd be so unambiguously enshrined

schlump, Friday, 8 July 2016 00:53 (eight years ago) link

o wait sorry wrong thread/electorate

schlump, Friday, 8 July 2016 00:53 (eight years ago) link

Andrea Jacqueline Salmon (birth name) = Maniac Rand Queen As Jello

Michael Jones, Friday, 8 July 2016 11:08 (eight years ago) link

Oh, wait, A Jello Randian Scam Queen is better.

Can't get away from Jello. Probably why she doesn't use her middle name much.

Michael Jones, Friday, 8 July 2016 11:19 (eight years ago) link

Jello is called jelly in the UK so she probably wouldn't really think about that.

Stevolende, Friday, 8 July 2016 12:01 (eight years ago) link

The pound is now performing worse than the Argentinian peso. Ed Miliband must have superhuman levels of restraint to be not just letting rip, all the time.

And we have at least two more months of this...

Matt DC, Friday, 8 July 2016 12:27 (eight years ago) link

Consensus seems to be that it could drop as low as 1.2 but a couple of people have suggested it might get down to 1:1 if the period of uncertainty looks like being years not months.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Friday, 8 July 2016 12:41 (eight years ago) link

i liked Soros' quip that a slide toward 1:1 would be "a method of joining the euro that no one in Britain would want"

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 8 July 2016 12:54 (eight years ago) link

suppliers at work have wasted no time in letting me know that significant price rises are on the way

coygbiv (NickB), Friday, 8 July 2016 12:57 (eight years ago) link

so here comes inflation, and with it interest rate hikes, and with that a drop in home sales, and eventually falling house prices. which is kind of good right?

plus a weak pound helps wipe out the trade deficit? i.e. raises price of imported goods and lowers the price of our exports, making them more attractive?

am i missing something?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 8 July 2016 13:03 (eight years ago) link

I bought the June 22nd "Please Don't Go!"* Der Spiegel with dual-language pre-Brexit editorials from WH Smith for £3.

I looked at this week's "Oh Shit You Went"** Der Spiegel in WH Smith yesterday. It cost £5.20. I assume the actual Euro cover price was the same for both. Felt a bit funny thinking about that.

* actual cover text
** not actual cover text

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 8 July 2016 13:06 (eight years ago) link

price of imported goods will rise with the weak pound, but there might also be a fall in demand in some sectors too so that might mitigate inflation?

coygbiv (NickB), Friday, 8 July 2016 13:12 (eight years ago) link

Devaluing the Yuan makes sense because China is a huge manufacturer and net exporter. The UK isn't, really. I effectively work as an exporter and it's pretty good for my company - selling something for $250 and recognising the revenue in GBP = more revenue than ever.

The UK doesn't have a strong manufacturing base and is unlikely to get one in the near future without serious investment that won't happen during periods of extended uncertainty though. We import almost everything and it's going to get more expensive.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Friday, 8 July 2016 13:14 (eight years ago) link

I'm pretty sceptical of the idea that we are stuck with perennial Tory govt from now on - all the Conservatives really have is a reputation for economic competence and that's taking one hell of a battering at the moment. Hard to see how they win extra seats even allowing for Labour being in a mess.

Matt DC, Friday, 8 July 2016 13:15 (eight years ago) link

I looked at this week's "Oh Shit You Went"** Der Spiegel in WH Smith yesterday. It cost £5.20.

sad lol

So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 8 July 2016 13:15 (eight years ago) link

we've had nothing but Tory government since 1979, i'm kind of getting used to it

and the Gove maths out Raab (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 July 2016 13:23 (eight years ago) link

im a bit tired of party politics, important and fascinating though it is (though slightly demoralised by gove making people feel some sort of pity for poor old boris)

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/07/stories-buried-brexit-child-poverty-un-austerity

StillAdvance, Friday, 8 July 2016 13:26 (eight years ago) link

Tracer: FT sort-of says ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://next.ft.com/content/16e5a42e-4441-11e6-9b66-0712b3873ae1#axzz4Dl1tt2Ar

stet, Friday, 8 July 2016 15:11 (eight years ago) link

Spoke to a friend who's head of a dept. at Glasgow Uni. They have people who've been working on establishing relationships with continental partners over the past decade, building Erasmus exchanges, funding research. All of it gone to shit in the past fortnight. So sad.

― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Thursday, July 7, 2016 12:38 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i work in scottish higher education, and i've been out of the country on holiday since the day of the vote until yesterday. just had a chat over the phone with my boss about the vote - he said in our institution alone he knows of at least a couple of major research projects which have been cancelled already and one prominent foreign academic who was due to join us but has backed out because of the uncertainty. boss said he was at a meeting with his equivalents from other uk universities last week and the overriding atmosphere was disbelief, fear and anger. can't wait to get back to work :(

brexit through the rift shock (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 8 July 2016 15:27 (eight years ago) link

so here comes inflation, and with it interest rate hikes, and with that a drop in home sales, and eventually falling house prices. which is kind of good right?

plus a weak pound helps wipe out the trade deficit? i.e. raises price of imported goods and lowers the price of our exports, making them more attractive?

am i missing something?

― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 8 July 2016 13:03 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

biggest sectors of British exports are like: financial services, tech services, consulting

which don't intuitively obey the rules of the invisible hand the same way , but i wd want to leave the explanation to someone who knows what they're talking about

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Friday, 8 July 2016 15:30 (eight years ago) link

https://telescoper.wordpress.com/2016/06/29/the-brexit-threat-to-british-science/

It has been guaranteed that funding commitments will be honoured until the end of Horizon 2020, but that assumes that holders of such grants don’t leave the UK taking the grants with them. I know of four cases of this happening already. They won’t come back even if we’re still in the European Union then.

Another probable outcomes are that:

the shrinking economy will cause the UK government to abandon its ring-fence on science funding, which will lead to cuts in domestic provision also;
a steep decline in EU students (and associated income) will halt the expansion of UK science departments, and may cause some to shrink or even close;
non-UK EU scientists working in the UK decide to leave anyway because the atmosphere of this country has already been poisoned by xenophobic rhetoric.

British science may “endure” after BrExit but it definitely won’t prosper.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 8 July 2016 15:38 (eight years ago) link

I still have yet to see a single persuasive argument for why leaving the EU is beneficial to the UK.

some anal dread (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 July 2016 15:43 (eight years ago) link

Or, rather, a persuasive argument for how leaving the EU is anything but an actively bad decision.

some anal dread (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 July 2016 15:44 (eight years ago) link

The positive would be that it becomes more affordable for non-EU students though with a PM who seems dead set on driving them away, that isn't much of a comfort.

Xps

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Friday, 8 July 2016 15:44 (eight years ago) link

WE'VE TAKEN BACK OUR COUNTRY

and the Gove maths out Raab (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 July 2016 15:44 (eight years ago) link

all these reports across so many sectors are like the sound of 1,000 toilets flushing

coygbiv (NickB), Friday, 8 July 2016 15:47 (eight years ago) link

I still have yet to see a single persuasive argument for why leaving the EU is beneficial to the UK.

they don't exist

Oh baby, if only you knew / Gabnebb hit a hundred-and-two (stevie), Friday, 8 July 2016 15:51 (eight years ago) link

i suppose a salmon would be exactly the right person to lead us back out of these lavatorial rapids xp

coygbiv (NickB), Friday, 8 July 2016 15:51 (eight years ago) link

It means we can now elect a government that will bring about full communism without interference from Brussels. Which given the political climate in this country will definitely happen.

Matt DC, Friday, 8 July 2016 15:52 (eight years ago) link

I have tended to view Lexit as pie in the sky stuff, but I suppose that's how centre-left/liberals view people who still support Corbyn, which I loosely do.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 8 July 2016 15:56 (eight years ago) link


This thread has been locked by an administrator

You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.