Rolling Brexit Links/UK politics in the neo-Weimar era

presumably a (ballsy?) (dumb?) bluff cos they don't expect may to call one & they can then argue she has no mandate

MPs feel like they're not doing their job if they're not spouting fatuous shit at all opportunities

https://www.facebook.com/angela4labour/photos/a.10153154066400316.1073741827.219217080315/10157083404665316/?type=3&theater

I'm with Arzehe, uh, what?

i'm with angola

comments are brutal

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/f32bWq9u2Eo/hqdefault.jpg

@stephenkb Her logo looks uncomfortably close to "argh" to my eyes. Which I suppose is one of few unifying messages in Labour.

LOOOOOOOL it's Cameron's epitaph.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCDanielS/status/752526624722194433/video/1

So, for a non-Tory supporter, is May an improvement on Cameron, or not? Hard to tell.

No. Much, much worse. She has constantly tried to push Cameron and Osborne to the right on immigration, civil liberty and a variety of other things.

She's better than Gove, Johnson or Leadsom though surely?

She's been talking about reducing social inequality and cracking down on tax avoidance, which is a plus (though obviously it remains to be seen what she'll actually do)

this appears to be her work:

http://www.thisis2020.com/theresa-may-immigration-agamben/

Lol arguing about best Tory

Bloody hell. I knew she was right wing on immigration but not to that extent

That is nowhere near the shadiest stuff. She has repeatedly demonstrated a willingness to impair successful parts of the economy and circumvent due process to cut immigration. Tens of thousands of people have been deported, many of then probably illegally, she has implemented set of systems that aren't simply designed to be 'tough' on immigration but to broadcast hostility to foreigners all around the world.

I know I have said this a million times but I don't think we would have left the EU if it wasn't for her concerted effort to demonise migrants.

xxxp Least worst Tory?

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/90a6fc7244024b33e3fa3d26488e52888ce0dd46/57_30_3199_1829/master/3199.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=19be38564f66cc1e5d5bb16308654a33

Her Birmingham speech has many great things in it. If she's going to let us down on all of them (as her voting record suggests she will) I hope that also includes "Brexit means Brexit"

i'm guessing that snooper's charter will be coming into effect then.

Dreading the appearance of Dave and Sam at our farmer's market, where they will be shunned by elderly remainers.

Also where the hell did this policy of workers representation on company boards come from? It doesn't make any sense except as a kind of play for the whole blue collar Tory thing that Osborne half-heartedly flirted with a year or so back.

24,000 comments on tht angela eagle post now all seemingly some variation of keep corbyn. lmbo

Finding it hard to work out why May has been pivoting towards the centre if she doesn't expect an election.

Farmers market in Chipping Norton or San Giminiano? Can't see him showing his face inside thre m25 any time soon.

Matt DC, works council board members are very common in Getmany, both due to pension fund share ownership and collective bargaining agreements. Between that and family ownership, it's one of the things that helps preference long term sustainability over quarterly profits in the German system. The cosy relationship may also have a part to play in things like the the VW emissions scandal.

http://touchstoneblog.org.uk/2016/07/theresa-may-echoes-key-tuc-policy-calling-workers-company-boards/

Cuts Blue Labour off at the pass. It's a Miliband era policy. Whether she will do anything about it or not remains to be seen but throwing a few bones to the Cameron centrists who think she's a 'bloody difficult woman' while indicating she wants to steal some of the ground anti-Corbyn Labour wants to move in to makes sense.

I see that, but why now?

how many policies like that can she get away with introducing while still maintaining she has a mandate under the 2015 manifesto

It makes Eagle or whoever challenges look more irrelevant if the distance between the party the Conservatives are moving towards and the party the rebels want to be closes. She is also fairly far to the right of a large chunk of her own MPs and needs to have some kind of messaging that says she's going to represent them along with the pro-Brexit message she delivered this morning.

Xp

It heads off the immediate unease within her own party, is the key thing. She needs to build a cabinet with both wings.

MDC: farmer's market nearest the school attended by the younger Cameron and Gove kids (have never seen the Goves, Cameron turned up in February, got a barracking from a tomato vendor, and snidely had his PA ring the vendor's boss in an effort to have the employee sacked for sticking up for Syrian refugees).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnHBmlYXYAA2X1P.png

Polls are so reliable these days

xps jeez at cameron tomato story

i keep misunderstanding why an anti-Brexit ticket wouldn't be a guaranteed election winner. Clues?

remainers were concentrated in pockets which wouldn't necessarily translate to electoral success under the current system. buzzfeed did a rough analysis
https://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisapplegate/why-a-pro-eu-party-could-be-screwed-in-the-next-election?utm_term=.uk2k2Y29b#.jwPQDzDoY

but what about all the people that voted leave and now know they were lied to?

and have also seen how the prominent Leavers behaved when they won.

Many of the lies were comprehensively debunked as such during the referendum campaign and people chose to either ignore that, or not pay that much attention and vote with their gut instinct.

Ultimately democracy is nothing without transparency and both have been in very short supply, but going back on the referendum could prove disastrous in terms of feeding the far right in this country.

Anyway, what happens from now on is going to be boring, trust me.

May will be the "OK, I'll handle the Brexit, didn't really want to but hey. Things will be tough, oh yes, and I did say so at the time it was the others who lied."

And, of course, the DM will be "The Birth of the New Magii" from now on.

McNicol did not respond to a request for a comment. But a source close to the party said the protests make little sense.

“We’ve just seen David Cameron hand power to Theresa May in under five hours but Unite want a meeting in eight days’ time because some of them work outside London,” the source said.

shameless envy

xp And everything that goes against the promises of the Leave campaign (which many things will) will meet a chorus of "we the people ~democratically voted~ to fix this country, but then the democracy-fearing ~establishment~ bullied Leadsom into standing down and now we can't have nice things because ~political establishment media elite spoilt immigrant-loving middle classes with their occasional European holidays~", which could take things to some quite bad places

Murdoch, Boris and a poor lying flip-flopping interview-fluffing former investment banker/hedge fund owner strange choices as spokespeople for the downtrodden everyman but people seem to be buying it somehow

I know NV is being sarcastic abt deluded m/c Remain handwringing rather than posing an actual q, but cozen's link otm and also who is going to vote against their entrenched party-politics position just because The Other Lot/some unknown quantity upstart party/the hapless Lib Dems campaign on a single issue? not enough people to swing an election any time soon. which is too bad not just for this but because the current FPTP two-party* system is really not looking like providing any good options any time soon. I make this obvious and unasked-for point just in case anyone can convince me otherwise

* mainly just one party now, unless/until UKIP convert the failed-Brexit discontent of the 1st paragraph into actual seats, because right now that seems more likely than Labour getting its two sides to play nice together and act like a convincing alternative, though I do v much hope I'm wrong there

Well, at least we'll never hear the phrase "A safe pair of hands" ever again..

http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/news/latest-news/david-camerons-humming-transformed-into-sweeping-orchestral-tracks

i keep misunderstanding why an anti-Brexit ticket wouldn't be a guaranteed election winner. Clues?

Unfortunately an awful lot of Leave voters are clustered in Labour constituencies in the Midlands and North of England.

... even though most Labour voters voted Remain.

http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/news/latest-news/david-camerons-humming-transformed-into-sweeping-orchestral-tracks

― nxd, Tuesday, July 12, 2016 12:00 PM

I like this one:

https://www.facebook.com/chrishollis1982/videos/10153522579302531/?pnref=story