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Quality posts today itt

Yeah after a certain point, after you've quit in a huff, taking focus away from the Tories and allowing them to get their shit together, it doesn't matter how shit you say your leader is, you have just proven that you yourself are terrible at the job you are supposed to be good at.

This is clearly going to be the most entertaining Cabinet reshuffle in many many years. Trying to work out which of George Osborne or Jeremy Hunt leads the line in my demotion dream team.

wonder if george osborne has some specific interest in energy and climate change that could be harnessed

Drugs Czar?

idk who they could replace Osborne with. Javid? If he wanted to stay on, it would probably go down well with the markets.

A Brexiter probably.

British politics is actually like The Thick of It, isn't it?

i've seen gove mooted as home secretary, i think he would probably may look benign by comparison

*make

If May was even partially honest in her Birmingham speech — which it's appalling that this is basically all we have to go on re her manifesto — she is talking about a total U-turn from Osbornomics. Can't see him stomaching that much humble pie

i've seen gove mooted as home secretary

http://kenfrost.0catch.com/obc.JPG

They'll go for unity - most leadership contenders will be given a post. Dunno about boris.

Culture, Media and Sport?

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LibDems 404 page

Xp. Would not be a terrible position for him. Assuming guillotines are not an option.

https://twitter.com/magnusmcg/status/752551501617328128

Best bit of reporting of the day. Shostakovich's 5th of course being his ostensible capitulation to Stalin so make of that what you will.

Ha, just coming here to comment on that. The D-Es-C-H theme that was hummed is also a theme of personal persecution and suffering. So a bit self-absorbed by the prime minister right there.

Response to just criticism etc etc.

And that Morrissey's "The Teachers are afraid of the Pupils" is somewhere between Cameron and Shostie.

lol @ the labour party

glanced at the archives the now and it appears no one ever reposted this:

Jeremy Corbyn for leader
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 7 September 2006 14:23 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha yessss

it was what everyone was systems thinking though

this was on a thread When will Blair go?

ok i'm voting for him to go

Blair?

you mean corbyn rather than blair xpost

never underestimate the darkwave voting bloc

a heartwarming tale of neighbourly compassion here:

http://m.newsshopper.co.uk/news/14613471._Vile__and__hateful__protest_leads_to_eviction_of_asylum_seekers_in_Sidcup/

Oh that Martian post is beyond beautiful.

Only MATTY TAYLOR can save us now.

i won't have this hate-speech about se london

From Peston's Facebook:

So we will have the new occupants of the big cabinet posts in T May's government announced tomorrow, I am told.

And that is partly because the fastidious May will not want her own job of Home Secretary to be vacant even for a few hours.

And if she is filling Home, it makes sense for her to do Chancellor, Foreign and the all-new Brexit post at the same time.

I also expect the total reshuffle - which will go on for two or three days - to be substantial. May has been training and preparing to be PM for too long not to want to make a government in her own image.

And since in the first flush of office she will be more powerful than she will probably ever be again, this is her best chance of creating the team able to deliver her agenda.

So who is up, who down and who out?

Well George Osborne was in effect told yesterday, in May's Birmingham speech, that he is out of the Treasury. This was his dismissal notice:

"For a government that has overseen a lot of public service reforms in the last six years, it is striking that, by comparison, there has not been nearly as much deep economic reform".

And then she denigrated the Chancellor's cherished Northern Powerhouse in no uncertain terms - in that she called for a "plan to help not one or even two of our great regional cities but every single one of them".

Ouch.

After that lampooning, it is pretty hard to see May offering Osborne any job at all.

By contrast there is quite a lot of talk that Gove could stay on at Justice to complete his ambitious prison-reform programme.

But all change more-or-less everywhere else.

Who is on the up?

Well, as I mentioned earlier, I expect big jobs to go to Philip Hammond, Justine Greening, Chris Grayling and Amber Rudd.

As one of May's supporters said to me, the Cameron/Osborne "chumocracy" will be buried.

Gove's prison reform, does that include the fucking state they are all currently in with legal high epidemics etc or?

that's more Grayling's fault, and that of a succession of previous Home Secretaries, to be fair

Philip Hammond, the most boring man in England?

Corbyn will be on the ballot.

with the NEC ruling that the 3 pound members of the last 6 months don't get a vote. you have to have been a member longer than 6 months or to have paid the full 25 quid fee to be able to vote.

i mean im not sure what the consequences of that may be, iirc corbyn won with the existing membership the first time around - i.e. he would have won, albeit more narrowly, if all the 3 quid member votes had been ignored.

yes that's right. one thing it tells me is that a lot of these fuckers are still not interested in broad Left coalition-building or PR.

For the labour party as was, it's the end of the beginning of the end.

Re NV post I think they believe there is a parallel quantum state where their convictions rule

Convictions?

Even when presented with their own voting records they have zero conviction.

pretty sure they stand for private ownership of NHS premises, SureStarts for all and freewheeling military intervention against random states

say what you will about the tenets of third way blairism, dude, at least it's an ethos

I trust the Tories more tbh, ever since Thatcher took my milk when I was at a poor as fuck sink school in Brackenhall in the 70's. You can always rely on them to make your life worse as part of their ethos. It is these slippery snakes that affect to be part of the solution while doing much the same that are even worse in my book.

Of course dude

Discussion to be had about which are actually worse, but I would say in terms of ability to fuck you up the the Tories are way out ahead of the Blairites