Curb Your Authoritarianism? The 2016 Conventional Wisdom Thread (Elections, Part 6)

i might cry if it's not newt

pence is an amazing piece of crap.

No. He's a predictable piece of crap.

trump needs a vp candidate who has "rich" in his name, not mere pence

trump seems to be giving another nonsensical speech tonight

why doesn't some video person do a mashup of trump word salad with palin word salad b/c they are pretty much the same thing

https://vine.co/v/i3YZKEVAmUY

That vine will haunt my dreams; curse you daria-g

i'm sorry try this one

https://vine.co/v/57WBZAmLAqD

the look on michelle obama's face!

kl;asdfkllkadsf

omg

https://vine.co/v/inMHuhU9A0Q

lol at barack sorta laughing at the amazingly untenable position michelle is in there

A friend and I were talking a little while ago about how surprisingly decent Dubya's non-dancing performance was. It reminded us both how OK he could be with a script, even one filled with platitudes, like his dad never was; Poppy read prepared texts like the letters were backwards.

Three days after a gunman claiming allegiance to the Islamic State killed 49 people in a gay club in Orlando, Fla., a crowd of college students gathered two blocks from the site of the massacre. They wore Trump hats or T-shirts and chanted, “Build that wall.” They cracked jokes about trigger warnings or whether the sidewalk counted as a safe space.

A few minutes later, a black S.U.V. pulled up, delivering Milo Yiannopoulos, a 30-something gay conservative raised in London and now a minor celebrity among the alt-right.

Since 2014, Mr. Yiannopoulos has toured college campuses in the United States and England, staging a performance that is equal parts spectacle and stump speech. Mr. Yiannopoulos dismisses statistics on campus rape as an official fiction and favors the slogan “Feminism is a cancer.”

His barbs are directed chiefly at liberals, feminists and Black Lives Matter activists, all of whom routinely show up to protest or disrupt his speeches. His followers film these confrontations and share them enthusiastically on YouTube and Facebook. In one video, Mr. Yiannopoulos arrives at a speech on a sedan chair carried by several young men wearing Trump hats.

“I knew I could have fun on campuses because they are so uptight and they are so ruled by the people I don’t like,” said Mr. Yiannopoulos, who considers himself a “free-speech fundamentalist.” He added, “Less cynically, they’re an important battleground.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/14/us/politics/donald-trump-white-identity.html?rref=homepage&module=Ribbon&version=context®ion=Header&action=click&contentCollection=Home%20Page&pgtype=Multimedia

I can't believe I'm surprised by a thing Trump said

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-claims-seen-moment-of-silence-dallas-shooter

Heinous and repugnant but the moment of silence thing isn't even the most O_O quote in that article:

O’Reilly pushed Trump to focus on “the African-American experience,” asking if he understood it.

“Well, I would like to say yes, but you really can't unless you are African-American,” he replied. “You can't truly understand what's going on unless you are African-American. I would like to say yes, however.”

Which is, I guess, because Donald Trump is the most oppressed minority in this country.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-claims-seen-moment-of-silence-dallas-shooter

just the latest morph of "brooklyn muslims celebrated 9/11 in the streets"

Orange lives matter, Old Lunch.

just the latest morph of "brooklyn muslims celebrated 9/11 in the streets"

― oculus lump (contenderizer), Wednesday, July 13, 2016 8:42 AM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It was Jersey City, actually. Get your historical facts straight!

Jersey City was the flashy one - the celebrations in Brooklyn don't count less just because they weren't as attention-grabbing.

[The presumptive GOP nominee shared other thoughts on race relations during his interview with O’Reilly. Asked if he agreed that the system was biased against black Americans, Trump pointed out that it was rigged “even against” him.

“What I'm saying they are not necessarily wrong,” he explained. “There are certain people where unfortunately that comes into play. I'm not saying that. I can relate it really very much to myself.”

As for whether black Americans are treated differently than whites by the police, Trump said “it’s possible.”

It's possible that African Americans get a raw deal, although it's hard to say. Donald Trump, though, my god. That poor, poor man.

The best approach to a Trump satire would be to lay out the grueling details of his hardscrabble life's journey as seen through his perpetually victimized eyes.

The best approach to a Trump satire would be to burn it all down.

This one time, the country club pool was being cleaned and he had to wait. Sad!

Another time, a beauty pageant venue required payment in advance. Sad!

Then there was a slight delay in his scheduled delivery of Slovakian-model potential brides. Sad!

The best Trump satire is all the previous and current seasons of Decker

"Our Values Are Under Attack" would be such a great campaign song

"You wave a flag on Christmas day...they'll throw you in jail, whoa!"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/12/donald-trump-has-no-interest-in-apologizing-to-john-mccain/

Following a policy speech in Virginia Beach on Monday afternoon, a reporter from WAVY-TV, the NBC affiliate for the Hampton Roads area, interviewed Trump and noted that many veterans continue to be offended by Trump's year-old comment. He asked Trump if he would like to apologize for what he said.

"No, I've said it," Trump said."And, you know, I was disappointed with John, because I think much more work should have been done for our veterans. We have not done the good job for our veterans, and I will take care of our veterans, and the veterans know that. And I will say that in terms of polls, I am doing better — by far better — than anybody with respect to the veterans. No, I was very disappointed with the work done for our veterans. And we're going to make it good for them again. We have to make it good for them again. They are great people, and we have done a very poor job."

McCain's office pushed back against Trump's accusation that the senator has not done enough for veterans, pointing out that one of McCain's top priorities is fixing the broken veterans' health-care system and that he has pushed a series of key reforms.

is there documented proof of Trump apologizing for any single thing he's done or said in the past year? maybe it's time to stop framing the question as "Are you going to apologize?" or "Do you regret..." and just start saying "You're not sorry for (insert here), are you?" or "You don't plan to ever apologize for (crazy thing), do you?"

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/13/us/politics/republican-convention-issues.html?_r=0

The platform demands that lawmakers use religion as a guide when legislating, stipulating “that man-made law must be consistent with God-given, natural rights.”

It also encourages the teaching of the Bible in public schools because, the amendment said, a good understanding of its contents is “indispensable for the development of an educated citizenry.”

The pornography provision was not in an initial draft that the Republican National Committee drew up and released on Sunday. But delegates added it on Monday at the same time they were inserting many of the amendments opposing gay and transgender rights. It calls pornography “a public menace” that is especially harmful to children.

The War on porn??? wtf year is it ?

Oh, man, I hope this leads to a new edition of the Meese Commission report being published. Funniest book I ever read.

this will go over well with their key demographic of straight male misogynists

What or who, exactly, gives a fuck about the Republican Platform?

probably as many who give a fuck about the Dems'.

log cabin republicans, apparently.

I don't ever remember a town hall meeting with The Speaker of The house. what the hell was that all about anyways? just CNN wishing he'd talk about Trump as if they don't enough already

looking up log cabin republicans brought me to the wikipedia page on this group:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOProud

peter thiel was involved. obviously.

i was just totally confused by it so much so that i watched it for 10 minutes .

"Delegates drafting the Republican National Convention platform approved removing language encouraging a two-state solution for Israelis and Palestinians."

RNC now more right-wing than Bibi.

trump up in a few places in latest quinnipiac poll

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/753236366826156032

Pretty sharp uptick for Trump in our forecast, after this morning's polling. Chances up to 27% in polls-only model.

the best 27%

convention bump coming

qunnipiac has been more r leaning the last two polls so Im gonna tie my hopes to that

4 months, HillBots...how you feelin'?

robots don't have feelings

just policy positions

http://www.cooltanarts.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/robot.jpg

"How. Do. You. Feel. HillBots? My. Counterculture. Programming. Makes. My. Manufacturing. Model. Slightly. Less. Common. Than. Yours."

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2548/4235533843_0bed94877f_z.jpg?zz=1

loool

srsly tho the quinn demo + party ID numbers look weird? also:

New NBC/WSJ/Marist polls:

IA: Clinton 42, Trump 39
OH: Clinton 39, Trump 39
PA: Clinton 45, Trump 36

July 5-10, MOE +/- 3.4%

Monmouth CO poll with 13-pt Clinton lead:

Clinton - 48
Trump - 35
Johnson - 5

11% Hispanic sample

not to be all unskew but generally the safe bet is not to freak out too much about one particular bad polling result