Rolling Brexit Links/UK politics in the neo-Weimar era

Good thing the shadow cabinet is well-placed to start challenging these fuckers

just realised i literally did not know what Philip Hammond looks like

To call him a dessicated calculating machine would do a grave disservice to dessicated calculating machines.

tbh he's got a look of Theresa May about him

he really is a grey blur, probably the next Tory pm.

the first time I noticed him was when he said Ed was treacherous and untrustworthy because he stood against his bro.

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McDonnell got caught saying what everyone has been thinking for the last week, on R4 this morning some hack was giving him a hard time and trying to suggest him saying "fucking useless plotters" was inciting armed Corbyn brigades to throw bricks throw windows.

yeah i heard that, rightly told them to fuck off

last time a pm was announced, i hung with l0u1s jagg3r and saw boredums, i feel like today was missing ilx fun times and a bunch of Japanese drummers

Fox, davis, johnson - the dream team for delivering brexit

I'm sure it has been pointed out a number of times but Johnson recently won a poetry competition for writing the most insulting rhyme about the President of Turkey, a NATO ally. That will be fun.

http://www.thecanary.co/2016/07/13/snooping-on-benefit-recipients-spending-and-is-totally-legal-with-this-phone-app/

xp jeez I'd forgotten that

last time a pm was announced, i hung with l0u1s jagg3r and saw boredums, i feel like today was missing ilx fun times and a bunch of Japanese drummers

I was at this! Missed connections ;_;

Never mind that. Johnson also said 'bravo for Assad' and praised Putin.

But does it matter? Of course not. In 2016 people detest 'experts' and facts, and prefer laughing over BJ hanging in the air, and his hairdo, over his thoughts. And the other way around, Johnson: you don't like my ideas? That's cool, I have others.

It matters if you want to be taken seriously by people like the 'part Kenyan' and his probable successor the 'sadistic nurse'.

The inherently anti-British half-Kenyan

Heh. Still, wanting to be taken seriously seems to be something of the past for politicians in beloved Albion and beyond tbh. Xp

Reminiscent of the different attitude towards diplomatic appointments between Russia, who send the best and brightest foreign policy graduates, and the US who send people they have no use for at home.

The fact we need to be either in highly skilled hands or begging favours in bowing and scraping mode hasn't sunk in yet.

Is there anything to know about Amber Rudd besides what's on her Wikipedia page?

No mentions on ILX until yesterday it seems.

What if she gives Gove the NHS?

Is there any chance she won't give him anything?

re amber rudd: she talked a good in her previous role (energy & climate change) but i don't think she actually managed to achieve anything much? but that's about par for the course for that post really

How does fox keep getting jobs?

like most of these, just by persistently turning up.

With his best man in tow.

Incredible to me how often I still hear interviews with Brexit supporters who claim not to have understood what they were voting for and what the consequences would be. I don't know if I'm impressed or scared that over here I get the impression that Trump voters, otoh, know *exactly* what to expect from him, and would be disappointed at anything less.

Good thing the shadow cabinet is well-placed to start challenging these fuckers

New season of New Blood starts tonight at 9pm. Then I'll probably turn in. Having such a big clear mandate to lead the party does get tiring at my age.

@DanMilmo 16m16 minutes ago
Philip Hammond says UK will leave single market. So that rules out the EEA option.

pack your bags kids, we're heading for China

Philip Hammond on Radio 4 just now effectively said don't worry about Boris, the grown-ups will keep him in line

Where the fuck is the mandate for leaving the market? Polling shows 2/3 of country wants it, way more than care about immigration. Fucking hell.

May, Hammond... now just waiting for Clarkson...

Polling shows 2/3 of country wants it

wants it or wants to leave it?

Where the fuck is the mandate for leaving the market? Polling shows 2/3 of country wants it, way more than care about immigration. Fucking hell.

Been some clarification since:

‏@DanMilmo 1 hour ago

Reuters:HAMMOND SAYS WE'LL COME OUT OF SINGLE MARKET AS A RESULT OF THE DECISION TO LEAVE EU AND I WOULD LIKE US TO NEGOTIATE ACCESS TO IT

Come on, these guys will sacrifice virtually everything to remain in the single market.

Davis said he expected the EU to continue to allow the UK tariff-free access to the single market, even with the UK imposing new border controls.

This leaves the question of Single Market access. The ideal outcome, (and in my view the most likely, after a lot of wrangling) is continued tariff-free access. Once the European nations realise that we are not going to budge on control of our borders, they will want to talk, in their own interest. There may be some complexities about rules of origin and narrowly-based regulatory compliance for exports into the EU, but that is all manageable.

i don't really understand this. if the eu raise barriers to uk imports, won't that favour eu producers and manufacturers and be a net gain for the eu in the long run? is there anything we produce in this country that can't be made elsewhere for less? or is he talking about tariffs on goods that we import? the eu wouldn't want their costs to increase and it would only cause inflation here anyway, so surely that would be undesirable for both parties.

also: Michael Gove has been sacked as justice secretary

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unless priti patel gets promoted to that post of course

Clarification makes things better. But yes polling said 2/3 value single market over immigration controls.

Davis confusing: some people rate him as a big brain (who has negotiated EU treaties in the past!) but his statements and proposals are all denying reality. Single market isn't about tariffs anyway; it's about regs and non-tariff barriers.

He is either lying or something else going on.

jeremy hunt rumoured to have taken a bullet, a nation(al health service) mourns

Today is about to be declared a national holiday in Lewisham.

it's always etc etc

nicky morgan sadness in her eyes jpg

Sounds like Hunt may not have been altogether fired from what they've just been saying on BBC News channel. Just moved to another dept.

That's interesting. Morgan had a reputation for competence within the party, if not the teaching profession. Gove and Osborne getting the boot is personal above anything else. May doesn't like either of them.

could it be as simple as nicky morgan being a backer of michael gove

Yes, quite possibly.

I probably prefer Morgan to most Labour MPs, as far as Tories go she didn't seem that bad. Although this might be a misconception on my part.