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leadsom is the new environment secretary. gets to clear up all the cancelled farming subsidies, hope that keeps her busy enough to prevent her pushing her pro-hunting agenda

Does hunting come under environment? Or what? Or could it be spun that way?

Sajid Javid is the new Communities Secretary.

department for environment, farming and rural affairs innit xp

Leadsom as Environment Secretary really is the climate-change-agnostic cherry on top of this cake of shit.

That's a huge step down for Javid.

"Labour's Yvette Cooper thinks it looks like a "very right-wing" cabinet so far. She says there's often a "very big gap between the rhetoric and the reality with Theresa May" and says that's what we are seeing."

Lol! at the hypocrisy

they'd better start prioritising the search for a new houses of parliament cuz the current one's gonna be underwater soon

tories in right-wing cabinet shocker

Pritti Patel as International Development secretary

Lolololol

Former accountant and co-chair of the 1922 Karen Bradley in at Culture.

Leadsom will now be able to fuck up the world for her children and their children - May instinctively understands that she instinctively doesn't understand.

guys i don't think anybody should question Yvette Cooper's credibility on identifying a right wing cabinet

When Cabinet positions are dished out as punishment.

For the minister as well as us I mean.

Sounds like Leadsom got exactly what she wanted to rid the world of foxes. Do hope there is some hope of preventing that. But these stewards of the state seem to not be the greatest stewards of nature. Innit.

Just seen this shared on facebook, Bristol has had funding pulled on anti-Corbyn MPs by local Union.
http://www.bristol247.com/channel/news-comment/daily/politics/union-withdraws-funds-to-bristols-labour-mps

thumbs up

meanwhile, in glasgow

http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg622/bizarrogazzara/image_zpsjulog1xk.jpeg

I lol'd
https://twitter.com/junayed_/status/753355203693383680

https://mobile.twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/753845837269118976 the responses to corbyns tweet are appalling, though not sure if I'm getting them in an odd order because it's mobile.

I heard that NEC has suspended all 6000 members of Brighton and Hove Labour Party for passing a motion to support Corbyn. Can see headlines on google but phone won't connect to full story.

http://brightonandhoveindependent.co.uk/brighton-hove-district-labour-party-suspended-nec/

This is such nonsense, I don't see how the NEC/the factions behind think this could possibly wash or that they have any chance of succeeding with these tactics

Jesus fuck. This is honestly the most blatant attempt to rig a democratic vote that I can remember in this country.

It shows that they just don't believe they can win an argument or beat Corbyn. And if you can't beat Jeremy Fucking Corbyn now, how on earth do you propose to beat Theresa May?

I mean it's a good job they've done it in an area with no left wing alternative. It would have been a complete disaster if they had.

Every time I read about Leadsom, it's as though she had to spend the night before Googling whatever it is she's talking about

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/energy-minister-andrea-leadsom-asked-whether-climate-change-was-real-when-she-started-the-job-a6710971.html

It is the standard editorial line of the Spectator so I guess she is far from alone among Tory MPs.

THere's apparently a bit more to the Brighton & Hove story about a worker at the venue taht they held a conference allegedly being spat on, though there also appears to have been no complaint made at the time. Also the chairman's signature is on a petition put out by a leftist group which is supposed to have some negative history with Labour though it dissolved and all members joined Labour. & he is being accused of being associated with that faction which is apparently a total no-no.

Both of which do seem to be rather underhanded attempts to discredit the local members.

Just thinking of which I read yesterday that the Eagle faction were supposed to be announcing fictional abuse which was what lead the hotel venue last week to cancel on them. Not sure if anything was said about that on here or the other thread.

Although Smith has postponed his leadership launch it sounds like it was going be an attempt to project his "left-wing credentials" and his experience of Thatcherism and the miner's strike etc.. It all sounds completely bogus when you look at his actual record but BBC reporters actually keep repeating this bullshit with straight faces.

Smith was born in Morecambe, Lancashire, in 1970. He is the son of the Welsh historian and writer David "Dai" Smith, the former chair of the Arts Council of Wales.

Owen Smith attended Barry Comprehensive School in Barry, Wales, and joined the Labour Party at the age of 16. He later studied History and French at the University of Sussex. He worked for the BBC as a radio producer for 10 years, working on a variety of programmes in both Wales and London, including Today for BBC Radio Four and the weekly politics programme Dragon's Eye for BBC Cymru Wales television.

Smith then entered the biotechnology and pharmaceuticals industry for five years, and in 2005 became head of policy and government relations for pharmaceutical corporation Pfizer, where he was paid £80,000 a year to lobby for the company. Leaving Pfizer in September 2008 he subsequently joined Amgen, another pharmaceutical company.

yeah, the Thatcher years must have hit him really hard.

in case you ever wonder why creating a more just economic system seems to matter less to some members of the PLP than it does to the majority of working class people, there's some clues.

former lobbyists for global business should never have been allowed in the Labour party in the first place

yeah but he has a Welsh accent.

I did wonder about the conflict of interests there (Labour /Pfizer etc). Hoping that the electorate are aware of this and what effect it might have.
There is at least a meme going around showing his history. Can't find it now but saw it on Facebook recently.

am trying to wean myself off the use of the phrase "these fuckers" every other sentence

never mind some guy from Brighton and Hove CLP who possibly has some connections to the Alliance for Workers' Liberty, according to Stephen Kinnock 10% of the PLP are "entryists":

"The thing with splits is it almost gives the impression that there is a 50-50 divide," Stephen Kinnock MP told me. "But there so clearly isn’t. I think it would be better to call it a spin-off. About 10 per cent of our PLP [Parliamentary Labour Party] would be very welcome to go and form the Socialist Workers Party. That’s what they’ve always wanted to do, they’re entryists. What an entryist does is come in through the back door, squats inside the house for a while until he’s wrecked it and then leaves through the front. And that is exactly what they’re wanting to do here. They’ve very welcome to go off and form their own party. We are the Labour Party, we represent the mainstream 9.3 million people that voted Labour and the others are very welcome to go off and do their own thing."

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/07/labour-won-t-split-if-jeremy-corbyn-wins-rebels-will-fight-him-again

nice. extent of the problem doesn't seem too bad then. his candidate should easily be able to rout them in a democratic & fair leadership election

Got ballot password and stuff for the NEC. Don't know what I can vote for that will sort this out, of course.

The kinnock description seems like exactly how I feel about the right wing plp who have ruined everything for people who believe in... You know... Labour policies and ideals, not his way around.

arguments about entryism are pretty bollocksy, but then the apple doesn't fall far from the tree in Kinnock's case. if Owen Smith isn't an entryist, if Liz Kendall isn't an entryist, if Blair wasn't an entryist then nobody is afaic.

the Kinnocks of the party give these interviews where they rewrite the party's constitution and history on the fly, make a narrative up to support their own craven money-grubbing cynicism, and won't get called on it because TV interviews aren't about that shit

this is somewhat bizarre: a whole Daily Express article reporting Socialist Party (i.e. the successor to Militant) general secretary Peter Taaffe's view on the current Labour crisis. They must be loving this publicity.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/689436/Jeremy-Corbyn-Labour-MPs-resignations-shadow-cabinet-NEC-Peter-Taaffe-socialist-party

the idea that the thousands of people who have become involved in the Labour party to support Corbyn are all entryists is laughable of course, I do get the impression though that in some places where Corbyn supporters have been successful in gaining some control over local parties the orchestrators have been older veterans of the Labour struggles of the 80s and 90s who have recently rejoined the party after being involved in smaller left sects. obv the Labour right have a vested interest in pushing this line so maybe it's exaggerated, expelling and suspending people like this would be wrong anyway imo

so momentum are the facehuggers of the labour party, corbyn is a chestburster, and neil kinnock plays the party of ripley jones, the nostromo's ginger cat?

Might as well say "until hell freezes over", not sure they mean this though

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-scotland-may-idUKKCN0ZV1HU

Person all i love the idea that new people who join the party aren't worth listening to, which is a strategy to surely win at a general election when you need people who dont generally vote for the party to get interested.

call me a cybernat conspiracy theorist but I smell a trap there. would like to think may's conciliatory tone is genuine but fully expect she'll use this 'can't agree a uk wide approach due to jumped up scotland's stubbornness' as a lever to mobilise english nationalist votes

At the heart of it is the PLP and Labour right's refusal to accept that the world has changed massively since 2006 and they haven't got the slightest fucking clue what to do about it.

does stephen kinnock know that the socialist workers party is already a thing. (and a thing that's thought to have a ludicrously low membership nowadays, probably under 2,000.)

call me a cybernat conspiracy theorist but I smell a trap there. would like to think may's conciliatory tone is genuine but fully expect she'll use this 'can't agree a uk wide approach due to jumped up scotland's stubbornness' as a lever to mobilise english nationalist votes

very likely, but Sturgeon's response to that is likely to be

http://31.media.tumblr.com/a11339e9507e90abfe586ea81bde2830/tumblr_n7id5wi4J71qebc9so2_400.jpg