Curb Your Authoritarianism? The 2016 Conventional Wisdom Thread (Elections, Part 6)

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vilsack though? his name hadn't even come up until now. frankly I don't really care, all her options seem pretty good.

Pence is reprehensible. Usually with a republican I can find at least one thing about them I can agree with. Not here.

akm, Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link

it's funny how all of Trump's options were p much old white dudes with dead careers

Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:33 (seven years ago) link

not sure what voters he expects Pence will help him pick up.

Pence is liked by the Kochs, so money is what he might help pick up.

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:34 (seven years ago) link

ok, i'll defend the indefensible here: when pence passed that stupid rfra, he caved under immense economic pressure from the business community- pat mccrory didn't. so, you know, he's not completely committed to destroying capitalism for ideological purposes, unlike many other republican leaders.

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link

The VP's name is really important: how it sounds, how it looks on a bumper sticker or a yard sign. Someone named 'Vilsack' will never be picked.

flappy bird, Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link

On the other hand, 'Trump/Pence' has a nice ring to it and looks good.

flappy bird, Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link

Least Beloved Trumppence

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link

Johnson/Pence a missed opportunity

salthigh, Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link

it'll cost you a truppence

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link

xp let the record show that I had this display name before that post

best beloved trumppence (crüt), Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:43 (seven years ago) link

feeeeeed the birds, trumppence a bag

Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:45 (seven years ago) link

^^^ I'm glad it wasn't just me

http://porno (DJP), Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:45 (seven years ago) link

I understand the impulse for Trump to pick Pence — an experienced pol, in good standing with conservatives, and not much of a lightning rod, at least not yet (the Left tends to make any GOP pick a lightning rod). But Trump’s running mate will have to be extremely deft at explaining away and deflecting Trump controversies. There is no reason to believe that Pence will be good at this, and I’m guessing he won’t be. Christie (comfortable at defending anything) and especially Newt (one of the most glib politicians of the last 30 years) would be much better by this metric. They both have downsides. No one will be excited by Christie, certainly not conservatives. Newt is famously ill-disciplined. But I wouldn’t be surprised if the Trump team thinks it’s getting a safe choice in Pence and then when he inevitably has trouble defending Trump (he has never operated on this kind of national stage), it won’t look so safe anymore.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/437669/donald-trump-mike-pence-possible-vp-pick

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:46 (seven years ago) link

clicked link, read "Beware a Pence Fizzle" title, clicked "Back" on my browser, contemplated the endless void

http://porno (DJP), Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:48 (seven years ago) link

pensively?

brexit through the rift shock (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link

it felt appropriate

http://porno (DJP), Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link

The VP's name is really important: how it sounds, how it looks on a bumper sticker or a yard sign. Someone named 'Vilsack' will never be picked.

― flappy bird

i will say this: mike pence's name looks fabulous on all the "PENCE MUST GO" yard signs that have been all over indy for the past year.

and yeah after 1844 i don't think anybody else is going to go for frelinghuysen as their veep pick.

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:51 (seven years ago) link

Beware a Pence Fizzle

Don't Fizz on the Elected Pence?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:55 (seven years ago) link

guys you are tempting another round of german-american exegeses here

goole, Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:56 (seven years ago) link

but (sorry) no penice

best beloved trumppence (crüt), Thursday, 14 July 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link

joe pernice 4 vp

brexit through the rift shock (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:04 (seven years ago) link

http://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-03/31/11/enhanced/webdr12/enhanced-buzz-wide-8743-1427816943-37.jpg

Time for a quick reality check. Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media, smoking doesn't kill. In fact, 2 out of every three smokers does not die from a smoking related illness and 9 out of ten smokers do not contract lung cancer.

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link

also:
http://vine.co/v/5Wm7igEpLKX

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link

i take all my medical advice from non-doctors who use comic sans on their websites

brexit through the rift shock (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link

i am very unwell

brexit through the rift shock (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link

It's fairly common knowledge that Pence is one of the stupidest people in American politics. I don't mean he holds blockheaded, objectionable positions issues - I mean, the way he expresses himself implies that he's just barely smarter than your average golden retriever.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link

Thick Pence, None the Richer.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:13 (seven years ago) link

Time for a quick reality check. Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media, smoking doesn't kill. In fact, 2 out of every three smokers does not die from a smoking related illness and 9 out of ten smokers do not contract lung cancer.

http://www.liketotally80s.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/solid-gold-logo.jpg

best beloved trumppence (crüt), Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link

barely smarter than your average golden retriever

but everybody loves golden retrievers!

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link

experience in law and his ideology aligns with trump's

whoooo

the us is in for one hell of a ride

oh and hes against gun control

http://www.ontheissues.org/Governor/Mike_Pence_Gun_Control.htm

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link

Doesn't that mean one out of three smokers do die of smoking related illnesses? Well, pass the pack!

nickn, Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link

that's some glass third-full thinking, big gummint lover

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link

goddamn the Pence-Kaine VP debate will be a barnburner

shitshow gets worse every day

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link

buying extra popcorn for the summer and election season

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link

i'll just leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWToUATLGzs

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link

is kaine a good debater?

he came to my office a few months ago but I was out that day, missed him. I was told he was charming.

akm, Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link

lets see some more of these

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-cruz-billboard-rnc_us_57869167e4b03fc3ee4efde4

frogbs, Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:30 (seven years ago) link

everyones crazy racist uncle's favorite black guy Wisconsin Sherrif David Clark will also be at the convention

akm, Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link

Is there any reason to expect Kaine will be the pick?

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link

It's fairly common knowledge that Pence is one of the stupidest people in American politics. I don't mean he holds blockheaded, objectionable positions issues - I mean, the way he expresses himself implies that he's just barely smarter than your average golden retriever.

― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱)

come on, indiana's the state that brought america dan quayle. and we haven't gotten any smarter since.

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link

My mom hates Pence, although possibly not as much as she did his predecessor. From what I've seen and heard, IN's governors have proven amazingly deft at stimulating negative reactions from otherwise apolitical state workers.

Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link

really? about all the locals i know worship the ground mitch daniels walks on and bemoan the fact that mike pence isn't him.

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link

Well, she's retired now so it may be more a matter of no longer being as directly affected by their dipshittery.

Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:53 (seven years ago) link

I don't think we know what kind of 'bater Kaine is; if there were debates for his prior elections I did not hear about them. His State of the Union response was a little stilted iirc. I know he's from Minnesota, and he married the daughter of another Va. governor.

rhymes with month (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 14 July 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link

Tim Kaine just let us know that "inteligente" means "intelligent"

best beloved trumppence (crüt), Thursday, 14 July 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link

everyones crazy racist uncle's favorite black guy Wisconsin Sherrif David Clark will also be at the convention

can i just emphasize that this guy is the literal fucking worst

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 14 July 2016 19:48 (seven years ago) link

He received a Sheriff of the Year award from the Constitutional Sheriffs organization, which is a 100% guarantee he's the literal fucking worst.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 14 July 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link

On the sheriff tip, I hear a a hologram Buford T. Justice is being prepared for the closing night...

Kenneth Without Anger (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 14 July 2016 19:56 (seven years ago) link


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