Curb Your Authoritarianism? The 2016 Conventional Wisdom Thread (Elections, Part 6)

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Whaddaymean 'yet'?

Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 July 2016 15:44 (seven years ago) link

I give Pence a week, maybe two, with Trump's hand up his ass before he starts going off-script. He was clearly straining a bit in that interview.

Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 July 2016 16:05 (seven years ago) link

I wonder what their private conversations are like

have they even had a private conversation

report your crimes to my burning ghost cock (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 July 2016 16:05 (seven years ago) link

josh marshall has been hinting on twitter that, having watched interviews with trump in the 80s and compared them to today, he's suffering from some kind of degenerative cognitive malady. not in the "GWB changed his accent" sense, more in the CTE sense.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 July 2016 16:06 (seven years ago) link

i think trump and pence's private conversations mainly revolve around their favorite chili's appetizers

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Monday, 18 July 2016 16:07 (seven years ago) link

XPS "So...Chili's--what's that like?"

Kenneth Without Anger (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 July 2016 16:08 (seven years ago) link

XP They compare Taco Bowls.

Kenneth Without Anger (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 July 2016 16:08 (seven years ago) link

trump doesn't have private conversations

“Trump has been written about a thousand ways from Sunday, but this fundamental aspect of who he is doesn’t seem to be fully understood,” Schwartz told me. “It’s implicit in a lot of what people write, but it’s never explicit—or, at least, I haven’t seen it. And that is that it’s impossible to keep him focussed on any topic, other than his own self-aggrandizement, for more than a few minutes, and even then . . . ” Schwartz trailed off, shaking his head in amazement. He regards Trump’s inability to concentrate as alarming in a Presidential candidate. “If he had to be briefed on a crisis in the Situation Room, it’s impossible to imagine him paying attention over a long period of time,” he said.

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Growing desperate, Schwartz devised a strategy for trapping Trump into giving more material. He made plans to spend the weekend with Trump at Mar-a-Lago, his mansion in Palm Beach, where there would be fewer distractions. As they chatted in the garden, Ivana icily walked by, clearly annoyed that Schwartz was competing for her husband’s limited free time. Trump again grew impatient. Long before lunch on Saturday, Schwartz recalls, Trump “essentially threw a fit.” He stood up and announced that he couldn’t stand any more questions.

Schwartz went to his room, called his literary agent, Kathy Robbins, and told her that he couldn’t do the book. (Robbins confirms this.) As Schwartz headed back to New York, though, he came up with another plan. He would propose eavesdropping on Trump’s life by following him around on the job and, more important, by listening in on his office phone calls. That way, extracting extended reflections from Trump would not be required. When Schwartz presented the idea to Trump, he loved it.

Treeship, Monday, 18 July 2016 16:09 (seven years ago) link

Not sure how to say this without sounding nuts: if gazillionaires and GOP brokers love Pence far more than Trump (Mayer mentions in a tweet that Charles Koch tried to recruit Pence to run in 2012), does this hurt Trump's chances of, uh, surviving?

thrill of transgressin (Eazy), Monday, 18 July 2016 16:13 (seven years ago) link

Often, after spending the day with Trump, and watching him pile one hugely expensive project atop the next, like a circus performer spinning plates, Schwartz would go home and tell his wife, “He’s a living black hole!”

this is great stuff

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

Treeship, Monday, 18 July 2016 16:15 (seven years ago) link

xp do you mean "surviving" euphemistically or do you think the kochs are going to poison his egg mcmuffin?

Treeship, Monday, 18 July 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link

Thinking poisoned Egg McMuffin...

thrill of transgressin (Eazy), Monday, 18 July 2016 16:20 (seven years ago) link

trying to argue over policy and consistency won't work to counter this. the best strategy is to make him look small and pathetic.

― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, July 18, 2016 11:16 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Exactly. He can say almost anything, and as long as he says it candid and with the same level of confidence he will be fine since that's what his followers are responding to. He carries himself so convincingly to them that inconsistencies are written off as examples of changing contexts or similar misunderstandings by critics.

Evan, Monday, 18 July 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link

is Benghazi Day going to help or hurt the GOP?

based stress reduction (crĂĽt), Monday, 18 July 2016 16:51 (seven years ago) link

those benhazi twats are irritating

duck dynasty is speaking today. wtf.

akm, Monday, 18 July 2016 16:56 (seven years ago) link

also looking forward to European Fembot Melania Trump's first spoken words

akm, Monday, 18 July 2016 16:57 (seven years ago) link

I am tempted to remake the song "Bengali in Platforms" as "Benghzi, Our Platform" in honor of the RNC

http://porno (DJP), Monday, 18 July 2016 17:10 (seven years ago) link

can't imagine Flo and Eddie are happy with this G.E. Smith cover of "Happy Together"

based stress reduction (crĂĽt), Monday, 18 July 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link

why does ge smith take money from republicans

akm, Monday, 18 July 2016 17:12 (seven years ago) link

very moving pledge of allegiance tbf

alphonse ginaloa (alomar lines), Monday, 18 July 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link

http://www.guitarworld.com/features-news-interviews/ge-smith-talks-bass-republicans-and-performing-roger-waters/%0919609

I have an 11-year-old daughter and she’s going to be going to school for a long time. And it’s expensive, so I have to work. Last year I did the Republican National Convention. When they first asked me to do it, I turned it down. And they offered another really good offer, which I turned it down. They came back with one more and I said no. It wasn’t so much political but rather that I had just been away for two years and I wanted to go home. I’d just made a bunch of money so I didn’t feel the pressure. And then they came back with an insane final offer. And I thought, Well not only will this pay for several years of Josie’s school but I can hire six or seven of my friends, and give them a really good pay day too. So we went and played the Republican convention. We may not be Republicans, obviously, but it was really interesting. I got heavy flack from some people for doing it. If you remember, at that time, last August, a year ago, it wasn’t so sure. It was kinda looking like Romney was making a good run for it. So I got some heavy flack for it. But I’m a professional musician and this is what I’ve always done. I’ve been a professional musician since I was 11 years old. It’s what I do: work.

based stress reduction (crĂĽt), Monday, 18 July 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

i can only hope josie smith's expensive education turns out to be more useful than ge smith's was

report your crimes to my burning ghost cock (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 July 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link

i respect that answer

goole, Monday, 18 July 2016 17:43 (seven years ago) link

If he'd gone with the Dems her education would be free!

nickn, Monday, 18 July 2016 17:48 (seven years ago) link

He probably would play for the Dems if they didn't keep trotting out James Taylor.

http://porno (DJP), Monday, 18 July 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link

hahahaha now i'm trying to think of a suitable republican-convention performer who could follow "JT IS HERE!"

we're gonna live in spatula city (Doctor Casino), Monday, 18 July 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link

duck dynasty is speaking today. wtf.

Because Evangelicals, and the not-so-secret theme of this shitshow is "Minute 19 of Our 15 Minutes of Fame".

Kenneth Without Anger (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 July 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link

scott baio

akm, Monday, 18 July 2016 18:04 (seven years ago) link

If this doesn't spark the Baiossance, I don't know what will.

Kenneth Without Anger (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 July 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link

I’ve been a professional musician since I was 11 years old

this is appropriate, b/c lots of people in the GOP would like to turn us back to the gilded age of mass child labor.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 18 July 2016 18:10 (seven years ago) link

I have an 11-year-old daughter and she’s going to be going to school for a long time. And it’s expensive, so I have to work. Last year I did the Reichsparteitage. When they first asked me to do it, I turned it down. And they offered another really good offer, which I turned it down. They came back with one more and I said no. It wasn’t so much political but rather that I had just been away for two years and I wanted to go home. I’d just made a bunch of money so I didn’t feel the pressure. And then they came back with an insane final offer. And I thought, Well not only will this pay for several years of Josie’s school but I can hire six or seven of my friends, and give them a really good pay day too. So we went and played the Reichsparteitage. We may not be Nazis, obviously, but it was really interesting. I got heavy flack from some people for doing it. If you remember, at that time, last August, a year ago, it wasn’t so sure. It was kinda looking like von Schleicher was making a good run for it. So I got some heavy flack for it. But I’m a professional musician and this is what I’ve always done. I’ve been a professional musician since I was 11 years old. It’s what I do: work.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link

aw, scott baio, really? I didn't know he was one of them. :(

Two crickets was sassing each other (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2016 19:10 (seven years ago) link

Phonies love Chachi

(I'm Hillary's new jokewriter, btw)

Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 July 2016 19:16 (seven years ago) link

Phonies love Chachi

dying

this is a salad for the BALSAMIC REVIVAL (Dan Peterson), Monday, 18 July 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link

he retweeted this

http://a5.img.talkingpointsmemo.com/image/upload/w_652/eilgnf7gfgaoim6w2k7w.jpg

we should take bets to see if anyone says the c, b or n words during the convention this week in Cleveland

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 18 July 2016 19:28 (seven years ago) link

we should take bets to see if anyone says how many people say the c, b or n words during the convention this week in Cleveland tbh

report your crimes to my burning ghost cock (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 July 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link

hard to believe noted asshole scott baio is a republican tho, it's true

report your crimes to my burning ghost cock (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 July 2016 19:31 (seven years ago) link

Charles is apparently no longer in charge of his misogyny.

Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 July 2016 19:32 (seven years ago) link

bob loblaw's blowhard blog

report your crimes to my burning ghost cock (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 July 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link

If Boris Johnson can become Secretary of State after writing dirty limericks about a head of state, I'd imagine Trump would at least install Baio as head of the Department of Education or something on the basis of that RT.

Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 July 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link

apparently g.e. smith is playing 'station to station' at the convention right now

mookieproof, Monday, 18 July 2016 19:41 (seven years ago) link

creepy magickal vibe of that song pretty much a perfect fit

report your crimes to my burning ghost cock (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 July 2016 19:42 (seven years ago) link

also nebulous nazi connections obv

report your crimes to my burning ghost cock (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 July 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link

one of the best songs ever.

the aryan overtones make it problematic in context though.

Treeship, Monday, 18 July 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link

it's mostly about a coke addict chasing the next high, though, which fits in with trump's addiction to diet pills, short attention span, and pathological need for attention/adoration

Treeship, Monday, 18 July 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link

i feel like g.e. smith has been taking the piss with most of these song selections

based stress reduction (crĂĽt), Monday, 18 July 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link

he played "Eminence Front" earlier!! on the coke theme

based stress reduction (crĂĽt), Monday, 18 July 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link

Republicans forget they're hiding

rhymes with month (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 18 July 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link


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