Curb Your Authoritarianism? The 2016 Conventional Wisdom Thread (Elections, Part 6)

lol

i'm a fan of melania tbh

between the plagiarism and the rickroll there cant really be any doubt that its sabotage no

― lag∞n, Tuesday, July 19, 2016 1:33 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

standing by this btw

I'm going to submit a few existing books whose words are personal to me for publication under my name. I guess that's kosher now in our brave new world.

melania "pierre menard" trump

I bet it's Peter thiel behind all this

hes innovating

speech prob written by a bot

maybe kenneth goldsmith was hired to be the speechwriter

Gideon Resnick ‏@GideonResnick
Ben Carson's spin on the Melania plagiarism situation: It shows "we share the same values."

The absurdity quotient is so high at this point that I almost expect reality to melt like an old filmstrip any day now.

the obvious course of action is to make a fall guy out of some scrub which means trump will prob not do that

I have a feeling the media spin on the convention was all set to be, "Wow, Trump pulled off a pretty okay convention after all the handwringing" but now the amateur hour narrative will continue.

There are lots of poems that express my values and feelings. But I didn't write them.

Robert Costa ‏@costareports 2m2 minutes ago
Trumpland quickly turned from ebullient to dark after the convention ended Monday and cable went big on plagiarism. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/republican-national-convention-scrutiny-of-melania-trumps-speech-follows-plagiarism-allegations/2016/07/19/3efc4208-4da4-11e6-a7d8-13d06b37f256_story.html

ha of course they thought they were doing good

Benghazi, e-mails, plagiarism, it never stops:

The Trump campaign now says any allegations of plagiarism are "crazy" — and that any attacks Melania has received are the result of her criticizing presumptive Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

"Once again, this is an example of when a woman threatens Hillary Clinton, she seeks to demean her and take her down," Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort said in an early Tuesday morning interview with CNN.

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/19/12222276/melania-trump-plagarism-clinton-rnc

oh boy these ppl are messy

Just in case one is presented with the "just a coincidence / these are common words and sentiments" defense, I find this comparison helpful:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics-live/wp-content/uploads/sites/53/2016/07/melania-trump-speech-cropped.jpg

ben carson:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cnu3OgbUMAAglT7.jpg:small

John Perkins • 8 minutes ago
Given that both our current President and Vice President are well known for their plagiarism when running for the office of President, having a candidate for First Lady reading lines similar to the current First Lady's is at best a minor inconvenient.

People who liked Melania Trump based on her reading will continue to do so.

yeah they were talking about that on NBC but it's like, since when has this campaign done anything sensible, they're all gonna say different things and ultimately Trump is going to deny that plagiarism ever occurred and ultimately denounce the media for going after his wife

many xps, wow

of course they're trying to spin it into "wow CROOKED HILLARY is really going after her, WOW what won't she do!?"

Yes, Ben, we share the same values, e.g., we want our children to know that they should be willing to work hard.

For example, they should be willing to google up some content that was widely publicized, change a few words, and then submit it as their own work!

xxp, and John Perkins brings the boring kneejerk tu quoque! Right on schedule!

but yeah the plagiarism thing is a distraction

the cheer for the acquittal of baltimore cops was revolting

I hope the focus will shift away from the plagiarism to the campaign's response to the plagiarism. This level of baldfaced disregard for basic facts needs to be hammered home with every undecided voter (i.e. everyone who hasn't already seen this happen dozens of times during the campaign).

agreed 100%, the fact that this campaign is blatantly lying about essentially everything ought to be raising way more alarms than it is

like the first rule in crisis communications is get in front of the story and apologise if at all possible

they are so, so bad at this

my god, imagine if CROOKED HILLARY was the one who didn't release her tax returns. what a fiasco that would be.

Pro or con, people are talking about Melania instead of Benghazeeleventy!!1.

For a campaign that's supposed to be media-savvy that should be called a loss.

“Talking to operatives here, the mood is something between grim resignation and the Donner Party,” said veteran GOP consultant Mike Murphy on Tuesday morning.

omg, just saw this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnqzYFQWIAAKUxQ.jpg

I don't care if your elevators are white, black, yellow, green or purple.

We should judge them by the content of their character, amirite?

Probably not as prescriptive as it is just a matter of fact. The whitest convention, so white it'll make your head spin.

We don't have white elevators and black elevators and red elevators and purple elevators--we just have the United States of America elevators.

ha how many ppl involved in setting that up thought this doesnt look good then just shrugged and carried on w their lives

Obviously rino DNC plants

I'm still slightly stunned by the fact that the logo of the convention includes half a guitar.

rock city

Some of you more IT & web-marketing inclined folks might enjoy this, where John Hendren(@fart) started digging thru the 3,200 domains registered to various Trump-related concerned:

https://medium.com/@fart/inside-donald-trumps-3-000-bizarre-domains-996871e602b0#.wgmiiz47c

Including digging thru WHOIS files

https://mobile.twitter.com/nathanrabin/status/755419435725361152

And to think, there are still those who think Republicans have trouble appealing to black voters. They've got J.J!

8:10 AM - 19 Jul 2016

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnvJ-IdWgAI8RXF.jpg:large

2 powells

Ahhhhhhahahahaha.

What, all Colin Powells look alike to you?

Should've just been a checkerboard of alternating Powells and Carsons.

Condy Rice is now stuffed down the memory hole?

a 3x2 grid of black republican portraits where one of the spaces is filled by a logo

They could've at least used some anonymous stock image.

It's not like anyone in their party would've been curious enough to try to figure out who it actually was.

Meantime

"When Moochelle said it she was lying. When Melania said it she was telling the truth."

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=364800

(I promise I will shut up about this soon but for now it is still providing lols)