Curb Your Authoritarianism? The 2016 Conventional Wisdom Thread (Elections, Part 6)

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“Talking to operatives here, the mood is something between grim resignation and the Donner Party,” said veteran GOP consultant Mike Murphy on Tuesday morning.

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 14:56 (seven years ago) link

omg, just saw this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnqzYFQWIAAKUxQ.jpg

Scott Baiowulf (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:01 (seven years ago) link

I don't care if your elevators are white, black, yellow, green or purple.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link

We should judge them by the content of their character, amirite?

Scott Baiowulf (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:06 (seven years ago) link

Probably not as prescriptive as it is just a matter of fact. The whitest convention, so white it'll make your head spin.

Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:07 (seven years ago) link

We don't have white elevators and black elevators and red elevators and purple elevators--we just have the United States of America elevators.

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:07 (seven years ago) link

ha how many ppl involved in setting that up thought this doesnt look good then just shrugged and carried on w their lives

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:08 (seven years ago) link

Obviously rino DNC plants

Scott Baiowulf (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:09 (seven years ago) link

I'm still slightly stunned by the fact that the logo of the convention includes half a guitar.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:10 (seven years ago) link

rock city

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:10 (seven years ago) link

Some of you more IT & web-marketing inclined folks might enjoy this, where John Hendren(@fart) started digging thru the 3,200 domains registered to various Trump-related concerned:

https://medium.com/@fart/inside-donald-trumps-3-000-bizarre-domains-996871e602b0#.wgmiiz47c

Including digging thru WHOIS files

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:31 (seven years ago) link

https://mobile.twitter.com/nathanrabin/status/755419435725361152

And to think, there are still those who think Republicans have trouble appealing to black voters. They've got J.J!

8:10 AM - 19 Jul 2016

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnvJ-IdWgAI8RXF.jpg:large

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:44 (seven years ago) link

2 powells

Treeship, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:46 (seven years ago) link

Ahhhhhhahahahaha.

Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:51 (seven years ago) link

What, all Colin Powells look alike to you?

A nationally known air show announcer/personality (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:52 (seven years ago) link

Should've just been a checkerboard of alternating Powells and Carsons.

Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:53 (seven years ago) link

Condy Rice is now stuffed down the memory hole?

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link

a 3x2 grid of black republican portraits where one of the spaces is filled by a logo

report your crimes to my burning ghost cock (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 15:55 (seven years ago) link

They could've at least used some anonymous stock image.

Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link

It's not like anyone in their party would've been curious enough to try to figure out who it actually was.

Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link

Meantime

"When Moochelle said it she was lying. When Melania said it she was telling the truth."

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=364800

(I promise I will shut up about this soon but for now it is still providing lols)

Scott Baiowulf (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link

like the first rule in crisis communications is get in front of the story and apologise if at all possible

Only if you are talking to people outside your base. The people who agree with you have already constructed excuses for you, and you want to affirm those points. Obviously the question of whether or not you should be protecting your voters or seeking new ones is something else. It's possible me that trump at this point is worried about losing his support in some areas, so is choosing to validate his base's excuses rather than apologise and seem others (which would involve contradicting those who have already supported him).

two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:06 (seven years ago) link

What the hell site is that? xp

how's life, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:07 (seven years ago) link

Ace of Spades, one of the many junky right-wing sites that are just that.

Meantime, as I posted on the Fox News thread, the last sentence of this excerpt is really firing off conspiracy theory thoughts in my brain right now:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/07/sources-kelly-said-ailes-sexually-harassed-her.html

As New York reported yesterday, Rupert and sons James and Lachlan, the three top executives at 21st Century Fox, have, according to multiple sources, decided that Ailes needs to be removed. Kelly, who has become something of a feminist icon thanks to her tangles with GOP nominee Donald Trump, is seen by many inside Fox as the future of the network. She’s currently in contract negotiations, and given that Bill O’Reilly has said he’s considering retirement, Fox can’t afford to lose her.

According to two sources, yesterday afternoon lawyers for 21st Century Fox gave Ailes a deadline of August 1st to resign or face being fired for cause. Ailes’s legal team, which now includes Susan Estrich, former campaign manager for Michael Dukakis, has yet to respond to the offer. Ailes has also received advice on strategy from Donald Trump and Rudy Guiliani, sources say.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:08 (seven years ago) link

http://verysmartbrothas.com/the-rnc-where-steve-king-defends-white-supremacy-and-melania-trump-disproves-it/


I won’t say too much more about poor Melania, because every joke worth making has already been made. Instead, I’ll just say that the only person feeling worse than her about her speech this morning is Steve King. All that fuss about the master race. And then, a couple hours later, the Grand Wizard’s wife refutes that entire argument by stealing the words from a regular Black girl from the South Side

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:11 (seven years ago) link

Hah!

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:15 (seven years ago) link

Only if you are talking to people outside your base. The people who agree with you have already constructed excuses for you, and you want to affirm those points. Obviously the question of whether or not you should be protecting your voters or seeking new ones is something else. It's possible me that trump at this point is worried about losing his support in some areas, so is choosing to validate his base's excuses rather than apologise and seem others (which would involve contradicting those who have already supported him).

― two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Tuesday, July 19, 2016 12:06 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

imo this is close but it gives trump too much credit for acting strategically, his behavior is mostly intuitive and it appeals to the gop base and not to everyone else, trump is just being trump is how i break it down to an extent

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:15 (seven years ago) link

scapegoating a staffer for the plagiarism would give him the chance to say 'you're fired' tho

report your crimes to my burning ghost cock (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:24 (seven years ago) link

and then fire a tshirt cannon into the crowd while ticker-tape rains from the ceiling of the convention centre

report your crimes to my burning ghost cock (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:24 (seven years ago) link

and gallop offstage on a glorious white horse firing pearl-handled pistols

report your crimes to my burning ghost cock (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:25 (seven years ago) link

xxp sure. when it comes down to it I doubt there is any conspiracy involved.

two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:26 (seven years ago) link

scapegoating a staffer for the plagiarism would give him the chance to say 'you're fired' tho

― report your crimes to my burning ghost cock (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, July 19, 2016 12:24 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is a good point someone shd pitch it to him like that

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:34 (seven years ago) link

catching trump in dumb lies gon be a media sport before this is over https://twitter.com/AmarAmarasingam/status/755439932659859456

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link

http://theslot.jezebel.com/day-2-of-the-republican-national-convention-all-hell-b-1783881235

Check it out, Dinesh Dsouza is out of jail!

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link

The Trump campaign has cycled through various denials and explanations for the, um, overlap between the Melania Trump and Michelle Obama speeches. Perhaps the best so far came from campaign spokeswoman Katrina Pierson, speaking to the Hill: "This concept that Michelle Obama invented the English language is absurd."

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link

Trump founded America, so he's technically responsible for all decisions made within its contiguous borders since then. Just the good ideas, though.

There's also now a story floating around about the multiple claims about Melania's college degree...despite a number of mentions in the past about having dropped out before graduating. Again: why? Why not decline to mention her higher education altogether rather than tell stupid and easily disproven lies about it?

Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:44 (seven years ago) link

trump gonna trump

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:45 (seven years ago) link

xxpost

Trump will point out the, like, words that were different from the cribbed passages and, what, did Michelle Obama invent words now? We're not allowed to use words just because other people used them? Rigged system. Sad!

― Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Tuesday, July 19, 2016 7:55 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link

https://mobile.twitter.com/AmarAmarasingam/status/755439932659859456

See a CNN anchor whine "WhHHYYY?!" on-air!

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link

You can't make this shit up. Except that you clearly can at this point.

Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link

I'm seriously considering changing a handful of words in Art of the Deal and self-publishing the resulting product. It's not like Donald Trump invented words (or even wrote the ones in his own book).

Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link

Clinton's facebook page is live streaming a list of lawsuits Donald Trump and his companies have been involved in. It's been going on for a little over half and hour now.

how's life, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:57 (seven years ago) link

Pence is on TV right now talking about meeting Reagan in 1988--"You can probably Google it and find the photo." Which he clearly already did.

http://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/mike-pence-veep-donald-trump-career-02.jpg?quality=75&strip=color&w=758

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link

just checking out the gipper's package, no big thing

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link

New defense being floated on CNN right now: you can also say that Melania stole from Kid Rock and John Legend and House of Pain and Public Enemy, everyone steals from everyone, it's impossible not to.

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 17:25 (seven years ago) link

So Melania is Girl Talk?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link

hmm i like the "cover version" defense, it's at least new

nomar, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link

trump's speech will begin with Reince storming the stage with an airhorn yelling REEEEEEEEEEEEMIIIIIXXXXXXXX

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 17:30 (seven years ago) link


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