Curb Your Authoritarianism? The 2016 Conventional Wisdom Thread (Elections, Part 6)

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why is my state such a shitshow?

― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Thursday, July 21, 2016 1:36 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gerrymandering and voter suppression, presumably

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Thursday, 21 July 2016 20:40 (eight years ago) link

sometimes I'm nostalgic for both Rick Perry AND Michele Bachman

http://i.imgur.com/kBJZR.gif

http://porno (DJP), Thursday, 21 July 2016 20:45 (eight years ago) link

If he's smart, he'll make a couple of innocuous, gee-whiz jokes about Cruz, who miraculously granted Trump some victim sympathy last night.

which reminds me - obviously I'm not watching all of this, but isn't it a bit weird that there hasn't been like, a single laugh throughout this whole thing? aren't these conventions supposed to be like pep rallies?

frogbs, Thursday, 21 July 2016 20:45 (eight years ago) link

thanks, Dan

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 July 2016 20:45 (eight years ago) link

any time!

http://porno (DJP), Thursday, 21 July 2016 20:45 (eight years ago) link

I dunno, does this look like a case of gerrymandering?

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/j1qlydo81ftsnaq/Central%20Texas%20Districts.png?dl=0

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Thursday, 21 July 2016 20:47 (eight years ago) link

xxxpost these guys think chanting "Lock her up" is hilarious

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 July 2016 20:48 (eight years ago) link

and those Benghazi marines were making tampon jokes on Monday

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 July 2016 20:48 (eight years ago) link

Meanwhile, sorrows from the religious right:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/religous-right-gop-convention

Tommy Valentine, a 22-year-old delegate from Virginia, said he felt like Trump was costing them a major opportunity.

“We had really good candidates and this was our chance to really turn back the tide on what’s been happening in the last eight years. ... Out of 17 candidates, we nominated the worst possible candidate,” Valentine told TPM at the lunch. “I’m just scared. I think Trump’s gonna go down in flames. There is no party unity and you see better speakers at CPAC then you do at this Republican convention because nobody wants to hear Donald Trump.”

As he spoke, Valentine fought back tears.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2016 21:07 (eight years ago) link

"Valentine then realized maybe he shouldn't've used his dating profile pseudonym."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2016 21:07 (eight years ago) link

i get more of a "power pop band pseudonym" vibe from that, honestly

big rave warrior (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 July 2016 21:11 (eight years ago) link

Pobrecito.

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Thursday, 21 July 2016 21:13 (eight years ago) link

"pool shark from guys and dolls"

goole, Thursday, 21 July 2016 21:14 (eight years ago) link

and you see better speakers at CPAC

Rick Perry and Scott Walker?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 July 2016 21:17 (eight years ago) link

i get more of a "power pop band pseudonym" vibe from that, honestly

Michael Stipe's pre-REM name was Michael Valentine, when he played in Gangster.

this is a salad for the BALSAMIC REVIVAL (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 21 July 2016 21:21 (eight years ago) link

The Valentine in question. I've no doubt he's earnest.

https://www.facebook.com/tommyvalentine2016/photos/a.1662805140654930.1073741825.1662804880654956/1664509417151169/?type=3&theater

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2016 21:23 (eight years ago) link

tonight's speech will probably look like something out of Manchurian Candidate

Neanderthal, Thursday, 21 July 2016 22:15 (eight years ago) link

I'm weirdly excited for this

frogbs, Thursday, 21 July 2016 22:17 (eight years ago) link

he's going to sing the speech to the tune of "Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah"

Neanderthal, Thursday, 21 July 2016 22:21 (eight years ago) link

He'll pretend to fall to his knees a couple of times and Chris Christie will bring out a cape to put around his shoulders.

For this happened a Zweigelt (doo dah), Thursday, 21 July 2016 22:23 (eight years ago) link

Reactions to the leaked speech are already out there, maybe?

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Thursday, 21 July 2016 22:25 (eight years ago) link

More excited for Peter Thiel's speech about being a gay republican tbh

Οὖτις, Thursday, 21 July 2016 22:27 (eight years ago) link

so Rasmussen still is roughly 4-5% in the wrong direction in all of its polls thus far, today being the only poll to give Trump a slim lead (and last week it had one that had Trump up 7 when the rest were roughly even or with HIllary in the lead). they were notoriously bad the last two elections too.

I know Gallup was the institution that actually proclaimed they would rework their methodology to improve the Republican bias their polls unwittingly churned out. Does Rasmussen just ngaf or something?

their shit's always amusing.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 21 July 2016 22:30 (eight years ago) link

I wish I could watch this speech!

I expect it will be at about 3am my time.

the pinefox, Thursday, 21 July 2016 22:30 (eight years ago) link

jesus fucking christ

goole, Thursday, 21 July 2016 22:47 (eight years ago) link

starts out in an anti-BLM mode and goes downhill from there

goole, Thursday, 21 July 2016 22:48 (eight years ago) link

two favorable mentions of Bernie Sanders so far

goole, Thursday, 21 July 2016 22:53 (eight years ago) link

Oh good, a Benghazi ref

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Thursday, 21 July 2016 22:54 (eight years ago) link

http://www.vice.com/read/porn-viewership-soars-in-cleveland-during-republican-national-convention-vgtrn?utm_source=dmfb

But many of those porn-watchers were also looking for Donald Trump–themed porn, too, and his name became a trending search, so the masturbators definitely had politics on the mind.

Kenneth Without Anger (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 21 July 2016 22:58 (eight years ago) link

promises to defeat the evil tetrarchy: criminals, terrorists, immigrants, globalists.

rails against NAFTA, TPP, asia generally

ends with an encomium to his slumlord father as a man of the people

really grim shit, can't wait!

goole, Thursday, 21 July 2016 23:00 (eight years ago) link

No mention of Cruz at all. (Did a word search, don't want to read it in advance.) That I find hard to believe--surely he'll work in something.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 July 2016 23:01 (eight years ago) link

v clear continuity with his "BRING BACK OUR POLICE" ad all those years ago

goole, Thursday, 21 July 2016 23:02 (eight years ago) link

would be interested in seeing a version that highlights all the egregious mendacity in yellow

j., Thursday, 21 July 2016 23:07 (eight years ago) link

terrifying speech. like a dispatch from hell.

Mordy, Thursday, 21 July 2016 23:11 (eight years ago) link

I read a little and got too annoyed and nauseated to continue before long.

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 21 July 2016 23:11 (eight years ago) link

One last Cruz thing before tonight. I've spent the last 18 hours trying to remember a movie line that almost sums up Trump's trap for Cruz last night. (I've pretty much completely moved in the direction of the idea that the whole chain of events was a set-up.) It's Hal Holbrook in All the President's Men, disgusted with Woodward after they gum up that one key moment in the investigation:

"You’ve done worse than let Haldeman slip away: you've got people feeling sorry for him. I didn’t think that was possible."

clemenza, Thursday, 21 July 2016 23:12 (eight years ago) link

He'll tell the crowd that Americans "will come first once again" under his presidency, touching on crime, terrorism, trade, and the economy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/japanpeterpan/orgy.jpg

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 21 July 2016 23:13 (eight years ago) link

On January 21st of 2017, the day after I take the oath of office, Americans will finally wake up in a country where the laws of the United States are enforced. We are going to be considerate and compassionate to everyone.

Study the juxtaposition of those two sentences. "Finally." Laws "enforced." The causal link between enforcing the law and compassion

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 July 2016 23:42 (eight years ago) link

xp the author's tone there is p unbearable, she sounds just as bad + intellectually dishonest as anyone she's describing

yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Thursday, 21 July 2016 23:45 (eight years ago) link

brit zing crew target in 2007 iirc

imago, Thursday, 21 July 2016 23:49 (eight years ago) link

Anyone who endorses violence, hatred or oppression is not welcome in our country and never will be.

Oh, cool, if his first act of office is deporting himself, I guess that's one problem solved.

Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 July 2016 23:52 (eight years ago) link

They keep wanting to tell Clinton "You're fired!" "You're not hired!" just doesn't work as well.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 July 2016 23:58 (eight years ago) link

holy shit turn on right now if u ain't watching https://www.twitch.tv/gopconvention

yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Friday, 22 July 2016 00:05 (eight years ago) link

whoa

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 July 2016 00:07 (eight years ago) link


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