Yeah, but that seems to be what's driving most of the 'debate' right now anyway -- so an analysis predicated on studying that is more than understandable.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link
It is kind of amazing to watch everyone run from the issue. Esp. Rep. Thomas of the Ways and Means committee calling it a dead horse.
― Juan, the Magic Don (jingleberries), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link
he will most likely rely only on the word "personal accounts", since "personal" tests better than "private"
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well he didn't want to negotiate with himself! and by that, he means of course explain anything of all
― kingfish (Kingfish), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 23:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― kingfish (Kingfish), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link
Don't be afraid to dive into the discussion at some point, Gabbneb.
― don weiner, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 23:07 (nineteen years ago) link
when Democrats are given a place at the table, we're ready to talk policy. the problem is that we're not invited. the bigger problem is that there's no table.
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― kingfish (Kingfish), Thursday, 27 January 2005 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link
"pay stubs"
"blank checks"
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 21:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― youn, Saturday, 5 February 2005 09:38 (nineteen years ago) link
so surely this is solvable, easily, by taxing more than just the first 100k of earnings, yes??? doesn't this seem like a simple fucking fix? tax the first 200k of earnings for god's sake.
― akm, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link
^
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/06/the-war-on-entitlements/
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 8 March 2013 14:51 (eleven years ago) link
short version: 97% of democrats and 71% of republicans agree with akm, but it's not even part of the policy conversation
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 8 March 2013 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
The debate over reform of Social Security and Medicare is taking place in a vacuum, without adequate consideration of fundamental facts.
The only facts that matter to the majority of members of Congress are 'how do I win my next election'? If FOX News and all the other corporate-controlled media outlets can obfuscate the issue in the minds of voters to where they embrace their abusers (usually easy enough to accomplish these days), then little else matters but serving the raw greed of the elite and cruising to victory on a tide of lies.
― Aimless, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
Obama endorses expanding benefits -- just in time
https://theintercept.com/2016/06/02/obama-wanted-to-cut-social-security-then-bernie-sanders-happened/
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 June 2016 17:01 (eight years ago) link
Latest Trump to Ryan quotes on Social Security interpreted different ways
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/01/donald-trump-gutting-social-security-morally.html
“From a moral standpoint, I believe in it. But you also have to get elected. And there’s no way a Republican is going to beat a Democrat when the Republican is saying, ‘We’re going to cut your Social Security’ and the Democrat is saying, ‘We’re going to keep it and give you more.’ ”
"from a moral standpoint" he believes in the cuts? Or in Social Security?
http://www.liberalamerica.org/2016/05/29/trump-supports-slashing-social-security-moral-standpoint/
― curmudgeon, Friday, 3 June 2016 17:14 (eight years ago) link
i think from the context he obviously means that he believes in the cuts. bc he's contrasting that w/ what he has to do to get elected which is not say that he's pro cuts.
― Mordy, Friday, 3 June 2016 17:24 (eight years ago) link