― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 2 April 2005 05:25 (nineteen years ago) link
"The Hard Goodbye" >>> "That Yellow Bastard" >> "The Big Fat Kill"
That Elijah Wood character seemed to have been teleported in from some completely different milieu - his strange powers and proclivities didn't seem to fit in with the film noir "naked city" Gothamesque vibe - but perhaps that made him all the more compelling. And the Mickey Rourke character (although I didn't know it was him until the credits, thanks to heavy make-up) sort of out-Arnolds Arnold - or the kind of pulp roles that Arnold used to do before he got too classy - stuff like "Predator" and "Commando" where his body becomes another special effect - and he did the best voice-overs of any of the protagonists. (Voice-over being a narrative technique which I prefer to be used sparingly, I think it was perhaps a bit overdone in this movie - which is a frequent pitfall of adaptations from written forms.)
Thematically it reminded me of Kill Bill - with vengeance being a thread that ran throughout all three episodes. However, whereas the Uma Thurman character in Kill Bill was content merely to kill her enemies - using violence and brutality, sure, but not dwelling on the inflicting of pain much more than necessary - the characters in Sin City seemed happy with nothing less than brutal torture of their enemies before killing them. It was the glorification of sadism, I think, more than the blood and gore, that made me feel a bit uneasy about the film - especially when the audience seems to laugh at the wrong moments.
― o. nate (onate), Saturday, 2 April 2005 06:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bre3nt Tharl, Saturday, 2 April 2005 06:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 2 April 2005 06:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― kingfish van pickles (Kingfish), Saturday, 2 April 2005 06:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Cabaret Voltron (PUNXSUTAWNEY PENIS), Saturday, 2 April 2005 06:25 (nineteen years ago) link
My first thought coming home was that I loved it but didn't know if I ever want to see it again, but I'm getting the urge. It's kind of PoMo horror movie crossed with a "Roadrunner" cartoon.
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Saturday, 2 April 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 2 April 2005 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 2 April 2005 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/dimension_films/sin_city/brittany_murphy/sincity2.jpg
― kingfish van pickles (Kingfish), Saturday, 2 April 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― kingfish van pickles (Kingfish), Saturday, 2 April 2005 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 2 April 2005 15:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 2 April 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Maria (Maria), Saturday, 2 April 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― kingfish van pickles (Kingfish), Saturday, 2 April 2005 15:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 2 April 2005 15:54 (nineteen years ago) link
also, she's wearing a symbol from Frank Miller's "Give Me Liberty" series on that earring...
― kingfish van pickles (Kingfish), Saturday, 2 April 2005 23:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 3 April 2005 00:20 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.capalert.com/capreports/sincity.htm
Note that management of the local theater, the Driftwood Theater 6 has implemented special controls to allow no one under 17 to enter the auditorium showing Sin City unless their parent(s) or legal guardian accompanies them into the auditorium. Tickets sales will be closely monitored and checked at the door of the auditorium. Even adult siblings may not be allowed to escort their under 17 siblings. Management suspects this film might have been one MPAA vote away from NC-17. Granted, the MPAA guidelines are not law but Driftwood is committed to ensuring a family-oriented service and supporting parental controls. I am proud of the management of the Driftwood Theaters for their bold stance which is apparently not often taken by other theater owners.
http://www.capalert.com/capreports/sincitydata.gif
Wanton Violence/Crime (W)multiple bullet impacts with blood, splatter and body part loss multiple instances of slicings, lacerations, incisions, impalements, avulsions and amputations cartoon images of firearm and blade assaults child abduction by a pedophile fist fighting assault with metal pipe gunfire cutting off forearm and to the male privates scene of multiple gunfire injuries, graphic scene of multiple gunfire killings, graphic threat to kill, repeatedly action violence, repeatedly planning murder, repeatedly assault on police, multiple, graphic assault to eyes firearm threat, repeatedly pistol whipping, repeatedly, graphic gunfire to privates dragging man by car with face against the pavement attempted murder by car, numerous times with sight of victim being thrown and bouncing each time attempted gunfire murder, repeatedly surviving impossible gunfire injuries that would result in death, repeatedly assault with sledge hammer, graphic heads of five disembodied women mounted as trophies, victims of cannibalism, repeatedly woman speaking of man who had eaten her hand while she watched assault with a rock assault with axe to the private parts many gunfire injuries of varying severity, repeatedly gore, repeatedly beating assault man hitting a woman, repeatedly double amputation dog eating stubs of amputations severed head, repeatedly, sometimes talking/moving man kissing severed head beating with baseball bats talk of eating women arm breaking assault electrocution execution many threats of many kinds illegal flight to avoid lawful capture firearms for offense, many killing/injuring with slicing weapons, repeatedly, some graphic beheading more amputation gushing/splattering of blood, repeatedly impalement injuries, repeatedly, some graphic bodies strewn about slicing up five bodies to be able to fit them into a car trunk semiautomatic pistol slide rack impaled into forehead dead bodies talking assault by strangulation of woman another severed head, repeatedly, sometimes talking knife impalements, repeatedly gunfire to kill, repeatedly biting gore brutality, repeatedly victim joking with spear and arrows protruding through him blood lust extortion with wife's life beating gore, repeatedly severed finger admission of contemplating suicide threat to kill with broken window pane glass manually ripping male private parts off a man Impudence/Hate (I)76 uses of the three/four letter word vocabulary lusting for murder wish to kill lies, repeatedly stuffing head in toilet with feces to intimidate, twice calling murder an art "Power comes by lying" sadism torture with whip as "foreplay" Sexual Immorality (S)graphically descriptive talk of rape and murder of an 11 year old girl making out intercourse with nudity nudity, upper female, repeatedly nudity, female rear, repeatedly, some close-up sex talk thong nudity, repeatedly homosexual reference ghosting of female anatomy through thin clothing, repeatedly translucent nudity woman as toys sensuous dance, repeatedly dressing to maximize the female form and/or skin exposure, repeatedly nude woman with appendages hiding gender-specifics anatomical references, repeatedly man and woman in bed together cohabitation sexual threats camera angle to force viewer on private parts, repeatedly prostitutes, many and prostitute dress, repeatedly soliciting prostitution, repeatedly talk of showing privates to each other offer of sex, repeatedly inappropriate touch pedophile threat of sexual torture full male nudity with privates hidden by shadows, repeatedly, many angles sexual innuendo Drugs/Alcohol (D):smoking, repeatedly drinking, repeatedly drunkenness, repeatedly bar, repeatedly booze, repeatedly abuse of prescription medication Offense to God (O)"Goldy [a prostitute] worked the clergy" speaking of eating not only flesh but souls as well name calling with "fool" [Matt. 5:22] eight uses of God's name in vain with the four letter expletive and six without Murder/Suicide (M)gunfire murder, at least 13 individual plus a multiple, graphic axe to forehead murder, graphic neck twist murder beating murder, at least two, graphic squeezing head murder blade murders, at least six, graphic arrow murder, at least three, graphic murder by slicing off top of head, graphic gunfire suicide, graphic
multiple bullet impacts with blood, splatter and body part loss multiple instances of slicings, lacerations, incisions, impalements, avulsions and amputations cartoon images of firearm and blade assaults child abduction by a pedophile fist fighting assault with metal pipe gunfire cutting off forearm and to the male privates scene of multiple gunfire injuries, graphic scene of multiple gunfire killings, graphic threat to kill, repeatedly action violence, repeatedly planning murder, repeatedly assault on police, multiple, graphic assault to eyes firearm threat, repeatedly pistol whipping, repeatedly, graphic gunfire to privates dragging man by car with face against the pavement attempted murder by car, numerous times with sight of victim being thrown and bouncing each time attempted gunfire murder, repeatedly surviving impossible gunfire injuries that would result in death, repeatedly assault with sledge hammer, graphic heads of five disembodied women mounted as trophies, victims of cannibalism, repeatedly woman speaking of man who had eaten her hand while she watched assault with a rock assault with axe to the private parts many gunfire injuries of varying severity, repeatedly gore, repeatedly beating assault man hitting a woman, repeatedly double amputation dog eating stubs of amputations severed head, repeatedly, sometimes talking/moving man kissing severed head beating with baseball bats talk of eating women arm breaking assault electrocution execution many threats of many kinds illegal flight to avoid lawful capture firearms for offense, many killing/injuring with slicing weapons, repeatedly, some graphic beheading more amputation gushing/splattering of blood, repeatedly impalement injuries, repeatedly, some graphic bodies strewn about slicing up five bodies to be able to fit them into a car trunk semiautomatic pistol slide rack impaled into forehead dead bodies talking assault by strangulation of woman another severed head, repeatedly, sometimes talking knife impalements, repeatedly gunfire to kill, repeatedly biting gore brutality, repeatedly victim joking with spear and arrows protruding through him blood lust extortion with wife's life beating gore, repeatedly severed finger admission of contemplating suicide threat to kill with broken window pane glass manually ripping male private parts off a man
Impudence/Hate (I)
76 uses of the three/four letter word vocabulary lusting for murder wish to kill lies, repeatedly stuffing head in toilet with feces to intimidate, twice calling murder an art "Power comes by lying" sadism torture with whip as "foreplay"
Sexual Immorality (S)
graphically descriptive talk of rape and murder of an 11 year old girl making out intercourse with nudity nudity, upper female, repeatedly nudity, female rear, repeatedly, some close-up sex talk thong nudity, repeatedly homosexual reference ghosting of female anatomy through thin clothing, repeatedly translucent nudity woman as toys sensuous dance, repeatedly dressing to maximize the female form and/or skin exposure, repeatedly nude woman with appendages hiding gender-specifics anatomical references, repeatedly man and woman in bed together cohabitation sexual threats camera angle to force viewer on private parts, repeatedly prostitutes, many and prostitute dress, repeatedly soliciting prostitution, repeatedly talk of showing privates to each other offer of sex, repeatedly inappropriate touch pedophile threat of sexual torture full male nudity with privates hidden by shadows, repeatedly, many angles sexual innuendo
Drugs/Alcohol (D):
smoking, repeatedly drinking, repeatedly drunkenness, repeatedly bar, repeatedly booze, repeatedly abuse of prescription medication
Offense to God (O)
"Goldy [a prostitute] worked the clergy" speaking of eating not only flesh but souls as well name calling with "fool" [Matt. 5:22] eight uses of God's name in vain with the four letter expletive and six without
Murder/Suicide (M)
gunfire murder, at least 13 individual plus a multiple, graphic axe to forehead murder, graphic neck twist murder beating murder, at least two, graphic squeezing head murder blade murders, at least six, graphic arrow murder, at least three, graphic murder by slicing off top of head, graphic gunfire suicide, graphic
oh noes! "squeezing head murder"!
― kingfish van pickles (Kingfish), Sunday, 3 April 2005 00:28 (nineteen years ago) link
i really like most of the actors and it was a lot of fun seeing them do what they do in this movie.
mickey rourke was the best. definitely the strongest segment and he KILLED the VO.
― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 3 April 2005 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 3 April 2005 01:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― herbert hebert (herbert hebert), Sunday, 3 April 2005 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Yellow Kid, Sunday, 3 April 2005 06:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 3 April 2005 06:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 April 2005 06:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 3 April 2005 15:17 (nineteen years ago) link
-- Amateur(ist)
maybe you haven't seen much pornography.
― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 3 April 2005 15:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Sunday, 3 April 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 3 April 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 3 April 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 3 April 2005 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 3 April 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 3 April 2005 17:39 (nineteen years ago) link
To put it another way: The question for Rosario isn't "omg, you played a prostitute, that must have been hard, eh?" but "geeze isn't it corny that somebody is so out of touch with what an actual prostitute's life is like that they when they stage a gang of prostitutes they basically look like Tekken fighters as dressed by Hot Topic?". I know the knee jerk response is Dude, it's a comic book what do you expect? to which I would reply "the plot of your comic book makes the way you think about women and the way you think about yourself extremely obvious, and the relentless violence of that vision and the virgin/whore clichés that drive your fantasies seem really obvious and worn-out".
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Sunday, 3 April 2005 18:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 3 April 2005 19:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Cabaret Voltron (PUNXSUTAWNEY PENIS), Sunday, 3 April 2005 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link
the film didn't seem to have the conviction which would inspire me to be offended; it just left me feeling indifferent and a little chagrined.
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 3 April 2005 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link
The friend that I saw this with (milton) pointed out that a lot of Miller's lines read well on the page but sound corny when read aloud by actors- I haven't read the original comics- do other people think that this is true?
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Sunday, 3 April 2005 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 3 April 2005 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 3 April 2005 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link
as they say.
― kingfish van pickles (Kingfish), Sunday, 3 April 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link
but, this is exactly the point i was making.
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 3 April 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 3 April 2005 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer: AKA Sir Teddy Ruxpin, Former Scientologist (latebloomer), Sunday, 3 April 2005 20:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― kingfish van pickles (Kingfish), Sunday, 3 April 2005 20:08 (nineteen years ago) link
The lines are pretty corny on the page too, but obv everything sounds cornier when you are actually hearing them read aloud. Both the comix and the movie kind of play the corniness for yuks too.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 3 April 2005 20:21 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm still amazed that Frank Miller's leather/German fetish made it through intact. Not just the iron crosses, but the swastikas too! I've never completely unraveled what he's going at with it, and I don't think anyone's going to be able to analyze it through this film alone. His imfamous Batman story, "The Dark Knight Returns" has this element as well.
― mike h. (mike h.), Monday, 4 April 2005 00:05 (nineteen years ago) link