I've only read a couple novels, neither of which were the one OL mentioned.
How Much For Just The Planet is indeed great, but John M. Ford's other Trek novel, The Final Reflection, is far more serious-Trek for people that like that.
― Shakey δσς (sic), Thursday, 11 August 2016 09:37 (eight years ago) link
Already got a ballot!
― write sed fread (Leee), Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:42 (eight years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CplEsG1W8AQwG3e.jpg
― ciderpress, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:51 (eight years ago) link
This is v. exciting, thanks Leee!
I heart TNG, but I've hardly watched any Enterprise, DS9 or Voyager. Always happy to get TOS recommends - I remember watching the whole series on BBC2 in the early nineties but I can't remember much except that The Menagerie seemed like the most interminable thing ever to a 13-year-old.
Recently watched the remastered Doomsday Machine on Netflix and that is fucking bonkers good.
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 12 August 2016 11:42 (eight years ago) link
I'm ambivalent about the CGI inserts but the remastered interior scenes on TOS are just fucking beautiful to look at.
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 12 August 2016 11:43 (eight years ago) link
CGI remastering is a tragedy of Lucasian proportions.
― chad valley of the shadow of death (ledge), Friday, 12 August 2016 13:19 (eight years ago) link
It's pretty seamless (and often an improvement) on TNG, but the CGI ship on the original series looks wack.
(I believe the CGI effects shots were a necessary result of remastering, rather than Lucas-style "improvements". But some of them are pretty shit-looking nonetheless.)
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:04 (eight years ago) link
And, that said, the Doomsday Machine space dong on the remaster looks fucking groovy.
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:05 (eight years ago) link
Sharpening up the picture is one thing, but adding effects shots is totally misguided. Better to let these things remain of their time. Part of the fun of TOS is going back to the 60s.
― jmm, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:11 (eight years ago) link
Otm i hate that shit. Glad i have the og dvd sets
― Οὖτις, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:19 (eight years ago) link
I would agree but I love this shot too much
http://67.media.tumblr.com/7d4fb230cb1c40d6d39b363a6543ed51/tumblr_nw8gm7vPdY1ufg9h8o1_1280.png
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:22 (eight years ago) link
I was referring to TOS
― Οὖτις, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:36 (eight years ago) link
voted!
― Οὖτις, Friday, 19 August 2016 21:30 (eight years ago) link
Received! BTW I'm almost certainly going to extend the deadline at least one month just to give myself time to finish TOS.
― write sed fread (Leee), Friday, 19 August 2016 21:34 (eight years ago) link
maybe I will have re-watched all of TNG by then
― Οὖτις, Friday, 19 August 2016 21:36 (eight years ago) link
probably not though - may just revisit my favorite TNG villain episodes ie, the Borg, Lore, and Q
― Οὖτις, Friday, 19 August 2016 21:37 (eight years ago) link
I think it's time for a DS9 rewatch.
― Millsner, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 12:03 (eight years ago) link
i recommend skipping season 1 other than the first episode and "Progress" and "Duet", it's a whole lot of excitement-killing nothingness otherwise
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 13:30 (eight years ago) link
I think this is the fabled DS9 spreadsheet, which might be useful here
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 13:36 (eight years ago) link
im not a fan of that spreadsheet anymore, its purpose is more to show the episodes that are related to the main story arc so you miss out on some good one-offs
the ciderpress guide to DS9 goes something like this:
Season 1:EmissaryProgressDuet
Season 2:Necessary EvilWhispersThe Maquis Pts. 1&2The WireThe Jem'Hadar
Season 3:The Search Pts. 1&2Civil Defense (this one is skippable i just find it stupidly entertaining)DefiantPast Tense Pts. 1&2DestinyVisionaryImprobable CauseThe Die is CastThe Adversary
Season 4-7Just watch everything at this point. you can skip the ferengi episodes if you dont like those (S6 "The Magnificent Ferengi" is really good though) and the holosuite eps if you don't like those (S7 "It's Only A Paper Moon" is the good one there imo) but there aren't too many stinkers otherwise
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 13:55 (eight years ago) link
Hey I like "Move Along Home", "If Wishes Were Horses", "Q-Less" (which is like a Mirror-Universe Doctor Who episode) from season 1!
― write sed fread (Leee), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 17:57 (eight years ago) link
those are the goofy ones, i like them too but most of the ppl i recommend trek episodes to want the more dramatic stories
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 18:10 (eight years ago) link
Oh I would totally want the good goofy ones too. I mean, I even super enjoyed "Angel One"
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 20:40 (eight years ago) link
I always considered myself a big Trek fan but holy shit @ this thread. I know nothing.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 20:51 (eight years ago) link
Civil Defense (this one is skippable i just find it stupidly entertaining)
omg this is second only to "Far Beyond the Stars" as far as DS9 goes IMO.
― write sed fread (Leee), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 20:55 (eight years ago) link
haaaaaaapppppy 50th!
https://twitter.com/tomandlorenzo/status/773863593204936704
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 September 2016 15:41 (eight years ago) link
OK, started working on this today. I promise I'll have it done. With no TOS.
― Jeff, Thursday, 8 September 2016 17:58 (eight years ago) link
ok i will counter with all-TOS
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:02 (eight years ago) link
oh crap this is due tomorrow?
someone name me 3 episodes of TOS to watch tonight before i hash out my ballot, assume i haven't seen any already except "Balance of Terror" and "City on the Edge of Forever"
― ciderpress, Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:06 (eight years ago) link
(i have seen others but not in 10+ years)
― ciderpress, Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:07 (eight years ago) link
Amok TimePlato's StepchildrenMirror, Mirror
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:16 (eight years ago) link
HEY! I'VE EXTENDED THE BALLOT SUBMISSION DEADLINE!! To indefinitely!
― write sed fread (Leee), Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:17 (eight years ago) link
indefinitely?
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:25 (eight years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cr2a72iUkAArxmL.jpg
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:38 (eight years ago) link
poll will run until April 5, 2063
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:38 (eight years ago) link
Dropping more Voyager eps in here than I thought I would.
― Jeff, Thursday, 8 September 2016 20:05 (eight years ago) link
Ciderpress - Doomsday Machine is awesome (and on my list) (which I haven't written yet)
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 8 September 2016 21:06 (eight years ago) link
all suggested are good, i will throw in squire of gothos
― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 8 September 2016 21:17 (eight years ago) link
totally gonna make deadline btw!
Deadline? What deadline?
I might extend it out a few more weeks just to give myself time to hit the highlights of TOS seasons 2 and 3. (Shakey, should I just look at a certain ahem list that you send me for reference?)
― write sed fread (Leee), Thursday, 8 September 2016 21:26 (eight years ago) link
Go on go on
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 8 September 2016 21:39 (eight years ago) link
well that's what *I* would say but other people have differing opinions. there are probably a handful of others that I think are either generally well-regarded or at least enjoyable via camp ridiculousness : The Immunity Syndrome, The Gamesters of Triskelion, Mudd's Women, I Mudd, etc. I also enjoy the Nazi/gangster/Roman planet ones altho I wouldn't say they are *great* exactly (they certainly established a trope that subsequent series returned to again and again)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 September 2016 21:40 (eight years ago) link
(xp)
Tholian Web another one I forgot to mention
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 September 2016 21:41 (eight years ago) link
(they certainly established a trope that subsequent series returned to again and again)
fwiw not referring to the "planets with cultures remarkably like 20th Century Earth!" as much as "crew dropped into familiar historical scenario" (i.e. TNG does Robin Hood or Sherlock Holmes or whatever. I have no idea if Voyager or DS9 did this, I suspect Enterprise did but who has time to watch that garbage)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 September 2016 21:47 (eight years ago) link
yeah def a genre. btw first tng holmes ep is pretty terrible imo but second one (ship in a bottle) is my second-favorite tng ep after darmok (and my favorite screen moriarty?)
― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 8 September 2016 21:51 (eight years ago) link
https://scontent.fman2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14199436_10154609630783054_5907774098195355203_n.jpg?oh=45355ed25b606ee50e88cbde5063de47&oe=5885A110
― Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 8 September 2016 22:08 (eight years ago) link
ship in a bottle will be top 5 on my ballot for sure
― ciderpress, Thursday, 8 September 2016 22:24 (eight years ago) link
love picard's closing remarks where he slyly breaks the fourth wall
― ciderpress, Thursday, 8 September 2016 22:28 (eight years ago) link
yes! love also that it is a hardassed kirk solution disguised as a humanitarian picard one.
― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Friday, 9 September 2016 06:07 (eight years ago) link