I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOTTOM IS • US presidential elections part VIII

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i can't imagine anyone being left

(of course there are plenty left. in general tho the campaign now seems to be dully plowing a recognizable niche out on the fringe whereas it seemed capable before of expanding that niche to swallow half the country.)

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Friday, 12 August 2016 03:51 (seven years ago) link

Hannity would be first on my list of preferred collateral damage.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/11/too-good-to-check-sean-hannitys-tale-of-a-trump-rescue/?tid=sm_fb

clemenza, Friday, 12 August 2016 03:53 (seven years ago) link

That McMullin guy, BTW, has made the ballot in Colorado and his campaign folks are already making noises about Florida.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 August 2016 03:53 (seven years ago) link

I like that one of the straws that is breaking the RNC's back currently is that precious Marco Rubio is being threatened in Florida.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 12 August 2016 03:58 (seven years ago) link

Lengthy piece in new york mag last week, v v juicy

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 August 2016 05:48 (seven years ago) link

Rubio's ahead of Murphy by double digits in most polls.

I don't care what y'all say. Florida, the state with the prettiest name, to quote Elizabeth Bishop, is more fun and fucked up than the other 49 put together.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 August 2016 11:43 (seven years ago) link

Off-topic followup on that cyclist video posted above, local news tracked the dude down: http://www.thebikecomesfirst.com/incredibly-angry-motorist-apologises-after-road-rage-incident-with-cyclist-video/

a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Friday, 12 August 2016 12:24 (seven years ago) link

Will any journalists have the cojones to follow up with Trump about Russia, the Ukraine and Crimea, or was that, like, days ago?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2016 12:26 (seven years ago) link

Preet Bharara has started a corruption probe into the Clinton Foundation. Have a nervous weekend, friends!

Iago Galdston, Friday, 12 August 2016 13:05 (seven years ago) link

h8 this upside down world where I am hoping people don't pay much attention to the influence of big money in politics

Treeship, Friday, 12 August 2016 13:24 (seven years ago) link

xpost Nervous or unsurprised?

Meantime:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-no-need-get-out-the-vote

And buried in this:

The Trump campaign has asked the RNC to open offices in all 50 states, a move one party aide told Daniel is a “complete waste of resources.” For example, why boost resources in a state like Idaho, which is going to vote for Trump, or states like Hawaii or Massachusetts that certainly will not? An RNC source said it was a “fool’s errand” and more for Trump’s “ego” and for “bragging” purposes, instead of deft campaign strategy. The source said it was a “personal request” by Trump to have offices in all 50 states.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 August 2016 13:25 (seven years ago) link

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hannity-investigation-clinton-health

lmao this shit is so fuckin funny to me, hannity is grasping so hard

marcos, Friday, 12 August 2016 13:43 (seven years ago) link

better get a team to retrieve a stool sample

mh, Friday, 12 August 2016 13:46 (seven years ago) link

well, it would explain why HRC thinks reaching out to Kissinger is a good idea

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 August 2016 13:46 (seven years ago) link

xxxp Donald Trump: straight talker

jmm, Friday, 12 August 2016 13:46 (seven years ago) link

xxxp He is truly Reddit's finest.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 12 August 2016 13:47 (seven years ago) link

i love that ABC news provides this clarification:

Obama did not found ISIS. The terrorist group, in its current form, was officially founded by the group's current leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 12 August 2016 13:59 (seven years ago) link

this is the kind of thing that makes me wonder if the whole "clinton plant" thing might not have some credence:

“We are gonna have tremendous turnout from the evangelicals, from the miners, from the people that make our steel, from people that are getting killed by trade deals, from people that have been just decimated, from the military who are with Trump 100 percent,” he went on. “From our vets because I’m going to take care of the vets.”

“I don’t know that we need to get out the vote,” the Republican nominee concluded. “I think people that really want to vote, they’re gonna just get up and vote for Trump. And we’re going to make America great again.”

you couldn't invent a better charlatan candidate.

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 12 August 2016 14:01 (seven years ago) link

something seemes more calculated to me with the 'obama founded isis' thing, like he drew out the statement and just kept saying it over and over

global tetrahedron, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:04 (seven years ago) link

Nah, the guy really is that dumb. Probably someone at a fundraiser told him that Obama should be called the founder of ISIS, and he repeated it for a few days. Guy's a gullible idiot.

Frederik B, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:08 (seven years ago) link

does the preet bahara story exist outside a couple fringe right-wing content mills? not that i think it's impossible or whatever but i was googling it and it seems like it's a big dailycaller scoop.

Mordy, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:14 (seven years ago) link

DT: If he would have done things properly, you wouldn’t have had ISIS.

HH: That’s true.

DT: Therefore, he was the founder of ISIS.

HH: And that’s, I’d just use different language to communicate it, but let me close with this, because I know I’m keeping you long, and Hope’s going to kill me.

DT: But they wouldn’t talk about your language, and they do talk about my language, right?

jaymc, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link

DT: But they wouldn’t talk about your language, and they do talk about my language, right?

is his entire candidacy summed up

jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 12 August 2016 14:21 (seven years ago) link

For those who wanted some closure on the bicycle story, here's the youtube of the guy capitulating; dude's demeanor, even when not in full-on asshole mode is extremely trumpish
"of course i'm embarrassed, I'm on tv!"

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Friday, 12 August 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link

got another link? that one won't load for me for whatever reason

global tetrahedron, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:33 (seven years ago) link

I worry that Trump is blowing his load too early. He suggested the Russians should hack her emails, then he suggested gun people should possibly shoot her, called her the devil and now is literally saying she's responsible for ISIS. I just don't know where you go after this. Maybe "brain transplant from Hitler" has some legs.

frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:33 (seven years ago) link

The funny thing to me about all this is that the "pivot" every traditional Republican was praying for actually did happen, it just happened in the opposite direction.

frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:35 (seven years ago) link

Every time I see this thread title I can't help singing it to the tune of "I Don't Know How to Love Him" from Jesus Christ Superstar.

snarkoterrorist (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 12 August 2016 14:37 (seven years ago) link

xp to GT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YevkFAfIEH4

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Friday, 12 August 2016 14:37 (seven years ago) link

oh right, flash issues: http://tinyurl.com/j22uwf7

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Friday, 12 August 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link

https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/donald-trump-explains-calling-obama-founder-isis-sarcasm/story%3fid=41326238?client=safari

Just a bit of sarcasm

― Treeship, Friday, August 12, 2016 9:30 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

picturing bored teen Trump hanging with Daria: "You know who's totally the founder of ISIS? Obama." Rolls eyes. "A real MVP."

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Friday, 12 August 2016 14:42 (seven years ago) link

I am aware that the "Clinton plant" is just a pleasant daydream, but I do like the idea that with a few weeks to go he finally starts spending money - on ads supporting Republican candidates in the Senate and the House.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:46 (seven years ago) link

Trump's sarcasm defense reminds me of the time my mom heard me call my brother a whore when we were kids and, when pressed, I insisted that I'd actually called him a horror. No one in that situation bought it and I think everyone knew that no one bought it.

Bottomless Brunch & Topless Tapas (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 August 2016 14:48 (seven years ago) link

His inability to apologize, however half-assed, is pathological and truly infantile. It's like asking a child with chocolate on their face and fingers, surrounded by candy wrappers, if they at the candy, and they say no and try to blame it on the dog. And then they say they didn't even like the chocolate, anyway.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:52 (seven years ago) link

trump's use of "sarcasm" there is like the dead parrot salesman's brother declaring "it was a pun."

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Friday, 12 August 2016 14:53 (seven years ago) link

Artist's mock up of Trump/Mexico wall: https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10382555_4376370543462_4219718631533707336_o.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:58 (seven years ago) link

My bad, that is his proposed wall between the US and Great Britain.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:58 (seven years ago) link

Bereft of life, it rests in peace; if you hadn't nailed it to the perch it'd be pushin' up the daisies! It's run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible! This... is a Brex-Parrot!

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Friday, 12 August 2016 15:01 (seven years ago) link

does the preet bahara story exist outside a couple fringe right-wing content mills? not that i think it's impossible or whatever but i was googling it and it seems like it's a big dailycaller scoop.

― Mordy, Friday, August 12, 2016 9:14 AM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so far everyone is just linking the daily caller, but it seems legit. could be bad. clintons would have no-one to blame but themselves if this leads to trump being president.

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 12 August 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link

can someone explain the allegation itt so I don't have to give horrible places any clicks?

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Friday, 12 August 2016 15:05 (seven years ago) link

hillary traded favors (jobs in the gov, arms sales to foreign countries) for donations to her foundation

Mordy, Friday, 12 August 2016 15:08 (seven years ago) link

Trump's sarcasm defense reminds me of the time my mom heard me call my brother a whore when we were kids and, when pressed, I insisted that I'd actually called him a horror. No one in that situation bought it and I think everyone knew that no one bought it.

him trying to explain the "blood coming out of her whatever" reminded me of the same thing. it's an excuse 12-year old me might've used.

frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link

once watched a friend insist fiercely to his parents he'd had no idea "bastard" didn't mean "fish poop"

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Friday, 12 August 2016 15:30 (seven years ago) link

sort of believe it?

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Friday, 12 August 2016 15:30 (seven years ago) link

When I was twelve I called my sister a "dildo." My mom said it was a bad word. When I asked her what it meant, she said, "I can't even say it. Wait till your father gets home."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 August 2016 15:32 (seven years ago) link

it's an excuse 12-year old me might've used.

Anderson Cooper set the baseline at 5-year-old early on.

clemenza, Friday, 12 August 2016 15:33 (seven years ago) link

glad to hear so many others have attempted this gambit -- i get sent home with a note from school with instructions to give it to my mom (which of course i did, this being catholic school), which explained that i said "shut the damn door" when someone left the door open while we were watching a film strip in a darkened classroom

what i meant, though, see, was that the door was a ~dam~ for the ~light~ and i was just asking for someone to shut the ~dam door~

jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 12 August 2016 15:33 (seven years ago) link

ok that's the best one

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Friday, 12 August 2016 15:34 (seven years ago) link


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