I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOTTOM IS • US presidential elections part VIII

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Well it's not fair for the media to report on what he says without the teleprompter as if it reflected what he's thinking.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 10:23 (seven years ago) link

lol just going full Trump now.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 11:47 (seven years ago) link

Interesting update on the Manafort / Ukraine connection:

http://bigstory.ap.org/c01989a47ee5421593ba1b301ec07813?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

It looks like he helped route $2.2m from Yanukovich's party to two Washington lobbying firms via a questionable front NGO.

More than half the money went to a firm run by John Podesta's brother, who lobbied Congress to push back a resolution requesting that Timoshenko be freed from prison.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 12:00 (seven years ago) link

Starting to believe that some sort of Trump network is indeed his end-game. Then again, I just assumed that Palin was angling for a TV gig, too, but nothing really came of that.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 12:30 (seven years ago) link

http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/the-nuisance-committee-super-pac-cards-against-humanity/?fb=dd

The Cards Against Humanity super PAC will be called the Nuisance Committee, a name that Temkin says comes from a chapter in his own family's history. During World War II, Temkin says his grandfather flew dozens of combat missions on a B-24 bomber over Nazi Germany before being shot down and spending about a year in a POW camp. He joined with a group of other Jewish POWs in the camp, Temkin said, who were frustrated about being sidelined in the fight against Adolf Hitler.

“They formed a group called ‘the Nuisance Committee’ to covertly disrupt operations in the camp and force the Germans to divert increasing resources away from the front lines and into the prison,” Temkin said. “They came up with little protests, pranks, and daily annoyances that drove the Nazis insane. So that's the name we're going with.”

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 12:49 (seven years ago) link

Then again, I just assumed that Palin was angling for a TV gig, too, but nothing really came of that.

It didn't last, but she did get her own show, didn't she?

clemenza, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 13:08 (seven years ago) link

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/08/18/world/18TRUMP-web3/18TRUMP-web3-master180.jpg

Breitbart really should install a gym at their offices, this guy looks one cheeseburger away form a coronary

beer say hi to me (stevie), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 13:10 (seven years ago) link

breitbart folks know that exercise is a michelle obama plot to destroy farming in the usa - it's every american's patriotic duty to stuff as much animal product in their systems as possible 24/7

pokemon go speed run (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 13:29 (seven years ago) link

The woman Trump just promoted to campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, is a CNN semi-regular, and she was on last night after his speech (but no mention of the promotion). Don Lemon was trying to pin her down on a specific point about the speech, and after four or five tries, she said "Why are you badgering me?"

You'd have to see the clip yourself, but in this particular instance, I actually agreed with her.

clemenza, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 13:35 (seven years ago) link

who remembers these old tweets about Trump being absolutely terrified about Ebola:

http://imgur.com/a/Zbt0q

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 14:30 (seven years ago) link

ok the one about NOT SHAKING HANDS is really weird

jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 14:35 (seven years ago) link

I thought it was pretty well known that the dude doesn't shake hands. Or doesn't like shaking hands.

Going Down On The Anals Of History (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link

i'd never heard that!

jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 14:48 (seven years ago) link

Wait Obama cant make a website for 5 billion?

What amazingly bad conspiracy theory is this?

plums (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 14:51 (seven years ago) link

ok the one about NOT SHAKING HANDS is really weird

massive lols at that one.

new noise, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 14:52 (seven years ago) link

Assume it's a reference to Obamacare online issues?

xp

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 14:53 (seven years ago) link

I love the "perhaps the president should put all Africans on Obamacare" one...quality zing there

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 14:53 (seven years ago) link

what is Ailes's position on wiping front to back

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link

^Leading question there.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 15:05 (seven years ago) link

seems obvious at this point that people around Trump, and maybe even his own rotting brain, realizes that after the way he's bungled the past month the only chance in hell he has at winning is to make some scandal stick to Hillary. if there's not something major from the Russian hacks being held in reserve, I don't know what it's going to be, but I do have a feeling Trump's campaign will throw plenty more shit against the wall between now and November. I think Juanita Broaddrick in particular is going to be a name more and more Americans are going to be getting familiar with.

evol j, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 15:32 (seven years ago) link

"The Ebola doctor who just flew to N.Y. from West Africa and went on the subway, bowling and dining is a very SELFISH man-should have known!"

The doctor who volunteered in Africa is very SELFISH

you think Lou Bega gave up after Mambo Number One??? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 15:39 (seven years ago) link

I like volunteer doctors who don't catch Ebola

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 15:44 (seven years ago) link

None of this terrifies me as much as the idea that the speech yesterday starts working.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 15:49 (seven years ago) link

As long as Trump immediately steps on each "substantive" "serious" teleprompted speech with some type of shenanigan (in this case, the campaign staff shakeup) it'll be fine.

Some of this alternation ("serious" speech / attention-grabbing freakout) may be deliberate, because the press will understandably continue to cover the car-crash aspect of the campaign more prominently than the allegedly "substantive" content. Then he can continue the always-popular attack on the media for covering the "wrong" things.

Rhys Witherspork (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 15:56 (seven years ago) link

There was a speech yesterday?

Evan, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 16:10 (seven years ago) link

I think it's comical that Trump's campaign thinks that African-Americans will forget about the past 15 months and focus on one speech.

I don't even know why he's trying. He wants to raise his approval rating in that demo from 1% to 2%?

you think Lou Bega gave up after Mambo Number One??? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 16:17 (seven years ago) link

I would imagine that his goals are more "Provide an excuse for people who don't want to be considered racist to vote for someone shitting on BLM".

Comparing the speech with the script is kind of fascinating, he doesn't so much go off piste as just enjoy repeating lines when they go down well.

lol though he did feel that "Her pledge reads: “I’m With Her." I choose to recite a different pledge. My pledge reads: “I’m With You – the American people.”" could do with some punching up by inserting 'totally' before 'different'.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 16:40 (seven years ago) link

"I pledge to stand with you, the American people. That girl you saw me with last night, she meant nothing to me. I'm going to make it up to you, the American people, I promise. This won't be like the last time or the time before that. Just give me one more chance, I can change."

Going Down On The Anals Of History (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 16:56 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/SethAMandel/status/765951313167384576

flopson, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:00 (seven years ago) link

During an interview with Fox News, Trump was asked about his upcoming intelligence briefing and whether he does "trust intelligence."

"Not so much from the people that have been doing it for our country. Look what's happened over the last ten years. Look what's happened over the years. It's been catastrophic," he said in response. "And in fact, I won't use some of the people that are sort of your standards, you know, just use them, use them, use them. Very easy to use them, but I won't use them because they've made such bad decisions."

I for one welcome new Director of National Intelligence Alex Jones.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link

It's like Trump imagines there is an endless supply of perfection out there and all you have to do is fire the imperfect people and hire the perfect ones. But for some reason he's the only guy who is smart enough to have figured this out.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link

TBF, the people he's hired thus far do seem to be perfect.

Going Down On The Anals Of History (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:18 (seven years ago) link

Every day I open this thread reminds me of Game of Thrones, like what big plot twist will Trump give me today??

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:21 (seven years ago) link

is it just me or is the prospect of breitbart running trump not actually scary at all. like, his attacks will get uglier, and the ads may have better production values, but the essential trump problem - not extending his reach far enough beyond the core base that would follow him over a cliff - isn't gonna change as a result of this. breitbart is not what u go to to sway ppl who are on the fences.

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link

Trump Casinos’ Tax Debt Was $30 Million. Then Christie Took Office.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/17/us/politics/trump-chris-christie-casinos.html

Mordy, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link

is it just me or is the prospect of breitbart running trump not actually scary at all. like, his attacks will get uglier, and the ads may have better production values, but the essential trump problem - not extending his reach far enough beyond the core base that would follow him over a cliff - isn't gonna change as a result of this. breitbart is not what u go to to sway ppl who are on the fences.

― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, August 17, 2016 12:24 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also he keeps hiring people that know jack shit about actually *running* a campaign, I mean all that unglamorous "ground game" stuff, data, GOTV efforts, etc etc that HRC is locking down right now

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link

adam f is right imo that literally the only risk is that trump somehow gets disciplined and starts running a more conventional campaign and woos back republicans who want to vote for him but can't atm. but bringing in ailes and breibart is doubling down on the insanity. shit is only going to get crazier from here.

Mordy, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link

and the ads may have better production values

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51JZRWFnKLL.jpg

producted, written and directed by bannon

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link

chryon: The Undefeated (she's not)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:30 (seven years ago) link

Ah, but her spirit has not been defeated!

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link

Even if Trump surrounded himself with a top-notch team with decades of experience in running a presidential campaign, he'd still do and say whatever the fuck he wanted and lose just as gloriously. As we've seen every single day since the conventions ended, Trump's biggest problem is Trump. You can't trump Trump.

Going Down On The Anals Of History (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link

(it has xp)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link

re: last night's speech, somebody liked it: https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/765937809144373248

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link

haha i forgot all about that movie's existence, can't say i've seen it tho

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link

what is that line of stuff running off into the horizon on the poster...?

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:33 (seven years ago) link

oil pipeline?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:33 (seven years ago) link

is that a movie about three sarah palins who band together

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:34 (seven years ago) link


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