I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOTTOM IS • US presidential elections part VIII

there we go again

I hadn't met Michael Cohen yet. Oh he's going to be a treat to have making the rounds.

Charles McCullough // Aug 17, 2016 at 9:02 am

Total BS. This poll is a poll cat if you know what I mean. It stinks to high heaven. When a real and accurate poll was taken with a sampling of over 100,000 people Donald Trump was on top of Hillary by double percentage points. http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/08/16/fox-s-steve-doocy-so-if-election-were-held-today-according-zip-app-donald-trump-would-win/212427 This has Trump 60 percent higher than Hillary.

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Sam Wang // Aug 17, 2016 at 9:12 am

i sincerely hope that each and every one of these vile schmucks is haunted by the ghosts of this campaign for the rest of their days.

Blah. Sam's response was "Clip and save". Made me lol.

Also the poll his reader cited is described as "not a poll" by its creator in the article he copied

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First time I've ever heard of the word "psychographic".

Advertising buzzword since I went to journalism school in the 80s.

Sorry, that looked snarky in print. Not intentional.

Interesting point:

https://twitter.com/IshYimini/status/766034151426367488

Manafort may be sidelined, but his VP pick is there to stay. Neither Lewandowski nor Bannon wanted Pence.

A Clown Car Full Of Bingos

^^^^ Should be the title of the next election thread. Bonus if it includes "psychographic"

This might be my favorite still shot from Mr. "Says Who"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqGEtqfW8AA8KTC.jpg:large

Lewandowski wanted Ted Nugent for VP

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Dude looks like:

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2229481.1432142919!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/michael-mcdonald.jpg

The anchor's face and head movement are priceless.

that dude is most punchable human I've ever seen

The anchor's face and head movement are priceless.

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 22:39 (24 minutes ago) Permalink

i love her exasperated "some of them... all of them" after he asks "which polls?"

even breitbart's poll had hillary ahead

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqGHBfSXEAAVRUd.jpg

I hadn't realised that Cohen was the same guy from this story:

Cohen added that there is no such thing, legally, as a man raping his wife. “You cannot rape your spouse,” he said. “There’s very clear case law.”

That is not true. In New York, there used to be a so-called marital rape exemption to the law. It was struck down in 1984.

Trump’s lawyer then changed tactics, lobbing insults and threatening a lawsuit if a story was published.

“I will make sure that you and I meet one day while we’re in the courthouse. And I will take you for every penny you still don’t have. And I will come after your Daily Beast and everybody else that you possibly know,” Cohen said. “So I’m warning you, tread very fucking lightly, because what I’m going to do to you is going to be fucking disgusting. You understand me?”

“You write a story that has Mr. Trump’s name in it, with the word ‘rape,’ and I’m going to mess your life up… for as long as you’re on this frickin’ planet… you’re going to have judgments against you, so much money, you’ll never know how to get out from underneath it,” he added.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/ex-wife-donald-trump-made-feel-violated-during-sex.html

Sounds like a real class act. Really makes you feel bad for the rest of humanity that these guys are "the best people."

I think I saw Psychographic Bingos open for the Jesus and Mary Chain back in 85

Gonna be an even longer campaign season, so long, the longest, no season longer ever, etc.

sez who

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-why-clinton-doesnt-have-this-race-locked-up/

Can answer this for you in three words, Harry - because it's August.

I always kind of hate Presidential candidates being described as "winning" or "losing" prior to the mailing of absentee ballots/commencement of early voting - polls do give a reliable indication on who will win but it doesn't mean they're currently 'winning', they're just forecasts. so naturally Hillary doesn't have it "locked up" yet.

xpost haha yeah they've had so many pieces that boil down to basically that. i like how in their roundtable chats the moderator guy keeps trying to get a juicier version of the story out of them and it just goes nowhere.

harry is bad

much better article on 538 today: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-big-is-a-fart-somewhere-between-a-bottle-of-nail-polish-and-a-can-of-soda/

Honestly surprised that wasn't about Trump.

ugh not into this - from an article by the ex breitbart editor

4. Breitbart’s Staff Lusts After Trump Involvement. Long before the billionaire officially entered the presidential race, Bannon was close to him; in April 2014, the Trump offices described Bannon thusly: “MAJOR SUPPORTER OF MR. TRUMP.” The new team at Trump headquarters will undoubtedly include all the Breitbart staffers who openly lusted after power within the Trump campaign: Joel Pollak, the Breitbart lawyer who desperately wanted to be a Trump speechwriter, and wrote a disgusting hit piece about me personally when I left and accurately accused the website of becoming an adjunct to the campaign; Matthew Boyle, the pseudo-journalist who reportedly bragged about becoming Trump’s press secretary; Milo Yiannopoulos, the Trump-worshipping alt-right droog stooge. They’re all in with their Godking, now.

also I wish Trump announced his new campaign manager was 'John Barron' and that he would only be available for interviews by phone

can never get over him naming his son after his fake spokesman.

I know!

I remember asking my mom who Trump was when he was on TV one night when I was a child and she told me "he's a bad man".

http://www.screeninsults.com/images/seinfeld-babu-court.JPG

Cohen's rant before the "Says who" exchange is worth seeing also:

http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/08/17/cnn-anchor-has-tell-trumps-lawyer-all-polls-show-him-losing/212480

Did you guys cover the theory that Trump's medical letter might well have been written by Dr John Barron?

This is a good summary of the red flags: https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/08/16/im-a-doctor-these-are-the-things-i-find-concerning-with-trumps-medical-letter/

yeah that letter was something else -- my letters are usually skeletal in their content (length of relationship, diagnoses if pertinent and allowed to be released, very narrowly described clinical determinations if needed for work or what have you). typically in the neighborhood of five or six sentences, max. remarks about his "astonishingly excellent" lab results and comments on his "extraordinary" strength and stamina---aside from being outside my usual purview---are not at all the norm

it's so weird

holy shit. and lol at Jacob Bornstein being dead at the time the letter was sent but still appearing in the letterhead. I would think the real Harold might have updated his header after five years, no?

less lol that he likely forged a letter a year ago and despite this, he and his ilk have the audacity to publicity speculate on the other candidate's health based on Drudge-esque evidence

concierge medicine is a weird world i don't know much about but...yeah, the letter is really odd

there were whispers about this earlier in the year as Trump referred to the letter being written by Jacob instead of Harold (Jacob being several years dead at the time), and then he removed that tweet later: http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/14/10123368/donald-trump-health-doctor-report-heaven-protect-me

"Adding to the existing group of WINNERS that he has hired for the campaign."

Trump blew it when he didn't nominate Charlie Sheen for VP.

say it somehow does get confirmed that he faked the letter - obviously his 'base' isn't going to care, but this would be a different type of dishonesty from Donald, not a 'heat of the moment' statement that was 'taken out of context' or a simple 'misspeak', but pre-meditated fraud. Unlike Melania's speechwriter (who probably also doesn't exist), Harold Bornstein appears to be a real person, though I would have to imagine the fact that he hasn't spoken up means he either a) had something to do with it, or b) is in a coma.

Sam Wang pointed out that Trump, based on historical norms, is unlikely to fall below 40-41 percent nationally, so any negative impact is going to seem very minute compared to his implosion of the last few weeks, but I could see some of the #NeverHillary crowd either running to her/third party/not voting, and undecideds doing similar.

I know Trump is an unconventional candidate but he isn't teflon as has been evidenced by recent weeks. My gut feeling is there will be a bit more circulation of the "Trump's doctor is fake" story for a few more days, nobody will ever be able to definitively prove it was fraudulent, and it'll get pushed out of the media by another controversy, but I'd really love to see him die on this sword (since he hasn't died on any of the previous ones that he should have).

He's dead walking

or at least he just smells that way

melania's speechwriter (assuming she actually wrote that speech) does exist

could be wrong, but if you can get away with 'obama founded isis' among 100 other things, i don't see an imaginary doctor dragging you down

yr probably right re: the latter (I mean my post above is essentially the 999th iteration of 'he can't get away with this, CAN he?'), just a part of me would chuckle (sadly) at the irony of the final nail in his coffin not being one of the millions of other terrible things he did/said, but rather a fifth-grade attempt at forgery.