Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

i think its about time we just take away cops' guns. or have them have guns in a lockbox in the trunk, and they have to get permission to unlock it. most cops never use their guns anyhow.

been arguing for years that it's insane that us police's first go-to is lethal ammunition; at the very least let's arm and train them with rubber bullets or tasers

yeah the counterargument is always some noxious shit about how then the criminals, who are all armed with rocket launchers, will be unstoppable and therefore you must hate cops and their families and want them all dead. this is stupid but politically effective. would be great to see a sustained pushback against that though.

the counterargument is almost always from dudes who are racially/societally unlikely to be the victims of erroneous and egregious police action. if white dudes were likely to be shot by bad cops things might change somewhat.

i would be more inclined to think this was a movement with some traction if it didn't frontpage splinter cell screenshots
http://www.disarmthepolice.com/our-position.html
someone please point me toward a more serious not-for-profit with these goals?

yeah I've wondered that myself, what happened to the time when the cops just tased everyone?

lol @ Sam Fisher, that can't be real

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/19/cops-taunted-black-veteran-as-he-died.html

that is one of the most horrible things i have ever read.

i can't even process that.

Under a controversial legal doctrine known as the "felony murder rule," the teen's prosecution relied on a theory of accountability enshrined in Illinois's criminal code: that while committing a felony, a person can set in motion a chain of events that lead to the death of another person.

"I cried," Louis admitted, remembering the moment he learned that he was being charged with murder for his friend's death. "It was unreal. I didn't know what was happening."

But Louis's prosecution was no fluke. Rather, a Reader investigation finds that his case was one of at least ten in Cook County in the past five years in which killings by Chicago Police Department and Cook County sheriff's officers have resulted in felony murder charges for civilians. In particular, the Reader found three cases in which police fatally shot passengers in fleeing vehicles—an act that's come under intense scrutiny since the fatal shooting of 18-year-old Paul O'Neal in late July—before holding a surviving passenger responsible.

http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/felony-murder-police-shooting-investigation/Content?oid=23200575

WHAT

Staggering. Both of those stories. The comments on the latter are blood-chillingly heartless. I feel sick to my stomach.

While in prison, he had "Marquise 7-8-12" tattooed on one hand, and his best friend's birthday on the other.

And while Louis is serving time for his friend's murder, the officer who actually pulled the trigger has been commended for his actions. For fatally shooting Sampson, Dicarlo received a 2013 Superintendent's Award for Valor, which honors "an act of outstanding bravery or heroism," according to CPD. Mayor Rahm Emanuel presided over the ceremony.

The director later testified he didn’t remember the doctor’s conversation but “if it happened, it was my bad.”
Then he tried to explain away Williams’s treatment. “People just die sometimes,” he said, according to court records.

FUCK THIS PIECE OF SHIT

"sometimes when people display textbook signs of paralysis, and complain that they can't move for three days, and we laugh and tell them they're faking, they just die. hard to figure out why."

what dr casino said.

jfc this fucking country

small bright spot: a few terrible prosecutors have been bounced:

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/08/zimmerman_prosecutor.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/north-dakota-becomes-first-us-state-to-legalise-use-of-armed-drones-by-police-10492397.html

A national prisoner labor strike is starting today: http://www.maskmagazine.com/the-prisoner-issue/struggle/live-updates-prisoner-strike

The Tyre King and Terence Crutcher murders are both absolutely awful and I have no idea what else to say. Fucking hell.

Yeah, so with every passing week I'm less keen on moving to the American south. Jesus fucking Christ, this country.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/21/us/protests-erupt-in-charlotte-after-police-kill-a-black-man.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

eesh why are you moving south

My son lives in Texas, and while I don't want to live in Texas again I'd like to be closer to where he is.

I don't even know what to say anymore

Based on what I've read, I actually think the police might be telling the truth here regarding this being a justified shooting, having recovered a weapon, etc. The Charlotte PD has a pretty good record with police shootings. They fired Kerrick the next day after reviewing dash camera footage and apparently there is video footage here. More telling is that so many people on social media were ready to immediately disbelieve them based on little or no evidence, which is obviously understandable in the context of the nationwide epidemic of police violence, but still is kind of depressing.

it's almost as if national patterns of documented behavior of police being unaccountable liars has influenced people's opinion of their local police departments

I guess I should have said unaccountable murdering liars if I was being extra-accurate

people disbelieving the police, sad times indeed ;_;

Based on what I've read, I actually think the police might be telling the truth here regarding this being a justified shooting, having recovered a weapon, etc. The Charlotte PD has a pretty good record with police shootings. They fired Kerrick the next day after reviewing dash camera footage and apparently there is video footage here. More telling is that so many people on social media were ready to immediately disbelieve them based on little or no evidence, which is obviously understandable in the context of the nationwide epidemic of police violence, but still is kind of depressing.

― Gatemouth, Wednesday, September 21, 2016 5:13 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i hope you're fp-ed soon so you can be kind of depressed about it elsewhere.

gatemouth's post sounded reasonable?

I was like "who is Gatemouth" so I searched for previous posts; this is one from two days ago:

Reveal Your Uncool Conservative Beliefs Here

Gtfomouth

So basically a vaguely self-aware racist?

tbf it IS depressing that police departments have squandered whatever goodwill or faith one might have in them with their repeated, lawless and unpunished murders of innocent American citizens, I think we can all agree that is sad. Sad!

i think the tongue and cheek nature of that post ("fantasy/deathwish") should have been obvious. show me an AML investigator who isn't worn out by Nigerian scams. but nice echo chamber y'all are building for yourself here. fp away.

i guess tongue in cheek would be the correct expression, actually.

But I know you are all Very Serious Liberals and I wouldn't want to disrupt your flow.

http://academicpositions.eu/uploads/2015/05/VSL.jpg

basically the only thing i still like about our ineffectual NYC mayor is that the cop unions still hate him.

First a little tongue in cheek racism, and then sadness over the loss of respect for the police in the 'police brutality and corruption' thread. Why oh why doesn't this fit into the echo chamber?

i think the tongue and cheek nature of that post ("fantasy/deathwish") should have been obvious. show me an AML investigator who isn't worn out by Nigerian scams. but nice echo chamber y'all are building for yourself here. fp away.

― Gatemouth, Wednesday, September 21, 2016 1:19 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i guess tongue in cheek would be the correct expression, actually.

But I know you are all Very Serious Liberals and I wouldn't want to disrupt your flow.

― Gatemouth, Wednesday, September 21, 2016 1:29 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nobody cares, go away

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/reports-one-shot-several-injured-as-protests-in-charl-1786924645

"Protests have swirled through Charlotte after Keith Scott, a father of seven, was shot and killed by Charlotte PD Tuesday. According to his family, he was armed with nothing more than a book. This evening, protests once again became violent, and reporters from the scene are reporting that someone has been taken to the hospital with life threatening injuries after they were shot in the head outside the Omni Hotel in downtown Charlotte."

I'm about 5 blocks from where the confrontation is in Charlotte. The man shot has died.

City changing their minds on whether the man died - now saying in critical condition on life support.

This is not fun.

unbelievable

https://twitter.com/grisuy/status/778779246693154818

yup

she also had a "we need more of this" kid hugging cop post but I think it was deleted

@samswey
Gov. McCrory just signed a law banning videos of police shootings from being released to the public.

@USATODAY
“One viewpoint of a video doesn’t often always tell the whole story. The angles can make a difference," N.C. Governor Pat McCrory says.