best films of the 21st century

I don't mind WALL-E but I've no interest in watching it again whereas I love Ratatouille.

Yeah I never want to go too far down the road of complaining that a film for children is dumb and obvious but in the context of more than one adult professional film critic deciding it's one of the ten best films of the last 1.5 decades I'll happily add my voice to the chorus of ppl saying that wall e goes to shit once it leaves the deserted planet and gets into the trenchant consumerism stuff

wall-e is a decent attempt

we need more cartoons shaming our societies like in the olden days

Cartoons where characters literally go to hell

ctrl + f + Crash = zero votes = A+

xp

bit derivative but might work

No I was saying that that happens in cartoons from the olden days

oh ya like a modern version of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mXSNg3MeaA

I thought inside out was a better message movie, basically a film version of those facebook comics explaining how you shouldn't behave around depressed people

only possible animated choice in my Century 10 wd be Fantastic Mr Fox

Toy Story 3 is better than all the Pixar films on this list

xpost Guess that means you never got around to seeing Angry Birds.

i do actually think finding nemo is some sort of masterpiece. it's movie magic! and heck the new one isn't that far behind.

i liked ratatouille a bunch too. and boxtrolls.

Fox best, if it's animated. Otherwise....tangled

Spirited Away and Kaguya would be animated contenders for me.

Best non-animated animated: enchanted

Irked by politics of a bunch of later Pixars, Nemo and Monsters Inc are my unadulterated faves

Spirited Away better than all of them, cliche or not

Worst non-animated animated film: There Will Be Blood

Shaun The Sheep is legit brilliant fyi

I remember reading a very hyperbolic 5* P Bradshaw review of There Will Be Blood at the time, and I knew it was going to be shite.

hahaha

I definitely think it's not all that. The Master much better in retrospect

And IV!

ctrl + f + Crash = zero votes = A+

I think TWBB is v entertaining, it's the claims of depth that are silly. Kinda like yr Godfathers maybe?

I think Bradshaw described it as a "new type of movie-making" or some bs like that. I think his nonsense review poisoned me against it.

4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days (Cristian Mungiu, 2007)
I haven't seen this one yet and have no memory of it being a Palm d'Or winner. I think his follow up movie Tales From The Golden Age was a classic, it is an anthology movie of urban myths from the Ceaucescu era. In fact, looking at his biog - I definitely need to see all the other Cristian Mungiu movies.

there will be blood is no boom town.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz_WhBN96jY

I think talking about "depth" is often a waste of time but TWBB's problem almost seems to be that it's so stylish and formally dramatic but the story/characters come across a little flat for me, as if they are illustrations of a type and not people. (granted I can probably now think of movies that do this that I like but whatever)

I gather it's part of the point of the movie--these characters could be transported to a von stroheim silent movie--but it feels academic in a bad way.

that director is all hat.

It is the feeling that it is straining to be some stilted idea of what a "great Movie" is that totally does my head in.

^^ Yep.

It also has the oddest structure: foreshortened. Just when it's developing we get the stupid milkshake scene.

but 70 mm duuuuuuude.....

i did like punch-drunk love. the only one of his i really liked. i didn't see the pynchon one though. it looked like a headache.

PDL was just as stultifying as i imagined all the other Sandler movies i never saw to be.

anyway that poll needed more Jia Zhangke

Hard Eigiht and Inherent Vice are his only satisfying films.

inherent vice is incredible but yes a headache prob

crossover alert!

http://www.indiewire.com/2016/08/frank-ocean-100-favorite-films-blue-velvet-solaris-annie-hall-1201719610/

PTA def erratic - for me Inherent Vice and Boogie Nights are the keepers. the others range from interesting/intermittently fascinating (The Master, Hard Eight, TWBB) to absolutely fucking horrible (PDL, Magnolia)

Morbs a million times otm re: Jia Zhangke, would maybe have Platform and Touch of Sin in my top 10

i thought ILX hated the whole DO YOU SEE? approach across the board.

― scott seward, Thursday, 25 August 2016 19:54

I thought Kurosawa's Pulse was like this, although it has some great moments.

Never liked Finding Nemo much. I generally don't like the animation style of Pixar, Dreamworks and similar teams, but I loved Ratatouille and the Toy Story series is good.

I found There Will Be Blood surprisingly fun, one of my favourite crazy bastards in film. The Master is great.

xpost would def have Jia's Still Life in my top ten

A Touch of Sin is brilliant.

mountains may depart >>>>>

If ILX did a poll it might be worse. Then again it would have Amour Fou on it, probably.

Chuffed to see Yi Yi in the top 10. Its one of the few post-Ozu films that builds something (its been a few years so I couldn't specify rn) on his legacy, adds a layer (or several) on top. xp

― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, August 23, 2016 3:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

sorry but taiwanese new wave comparisons to ozu are over and kinda questionable

― 龜, Wednesday, August 24, 2016 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Definitely not over for me. Yi Yi especially is very much in dialogue with Ozu - its not the only thing but why deny that?

cause it's an extremely lazy comparison?

I haven't seen Mountains yet :(

Its a correct comparison - just depends on how you expand on it.

I haven't seen Mountains yet :(

― blafe and sand (Noodle Vague),

it's wonderful, please do