I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOTTOM IS • US presidential elections part VIII

i have complete faith in the democrats' ability to somehow fail to brand the republicans the Party of Trump for the next 20 years (the way republicans succeeded in doing with Jimmy Carter for so long, with far less justification)

the Tories in England are STILL talking about totally made-up overspending by Tony Blair and Gordon Brown as justification for their austerity budgets (fyi this is how the real players play the game)

In fairness what both systems have in common is that both the left and the right conclude after any defeat that they must move to the right.

Yes, the key that unlocks it all

That was true for a historical period, pretty much for the 40 years from 68 to 08 I guess. But Obama was - at least when he was campaigning, Morbs :) - more left wing than Kerry, and the GOP can't get much further right at this point. The official response after 2012 was that they needed to move left on several topics such as immigration, though of course at that point they'd been caught in their own bubble and could do nothing but elect Trump. But they'll pivot, even Trump is trying to pivot back into a more subtler and implied racism, though he's spectacularly bad at it.

the GOP can't get much further right at this point

starting January 2017 we're going to have to use our imaginations

maybe it's truer to say that reagan democrats are the supposed key that unlocks it all, for 40 years, everyone obsessed with the Very Real Concerns of rural white racists. can't wait for this era to be over.

insane obsession with every scrap of trivia

Coming from the dude who was approvingly quoting Michael Musto less than 24 hours earlier.

why is it that the moment the democrats have almost broken free of the "very real concerns of rural white racists" the left is all about the legitimate grievances of the working class whites that the democratic have failed to adequately address?

why is it that the moment the democrats have almost broken free of the "very real concerns of rural white racists" the left is all about the legitimate grievances of the working class whites that the democratic have failed to adequately address?

― Mordy, 28. august 2016 14:55 (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You're kind of answering you're own question...

For real though, in certain parts of the left, there's an absolute rage at 'identity politics'. There was the interview with Adolph Reed which included quotes such as: 'These responses to Sanders’s critique throw into bolder relief just how fundamentally antiracism and other identitarian programs are not only the left wing of neoliberalism but active agencies in its imposition of a notion of the boundaries of the politically thinkable — sort of neoliberalism’s intellectual and cultural border guard.' Or: 'One of our concerns is, or should be, the tendency among a strain of exuberant leftists to proclaim programmatically diffuse coalitions and subordinate the class program to counter-solidaristic identity politics.'

Their reporting on police brutality seems almost designed to go against everything #BLM and their supporters suggest. The victims become invisible, the story on the murder of Paul O'Neal becomes 'Another Police Murder in Chicago'. Race is diminished, the report about racist policing in Baltimore became 'Policing Class', the subtext helpfully saying 'repressive policing isn't just about racism', while the subheader to 'The Murder of Michael Brown' speaks of 'regional inequities and a local fiscal crisis'. 'Alton Sterling's Right to the City' focuses on 'he idea that public space and culture should belong to those who produce them.' It's a change since July, when they admitted that 'Yes, Philando Castile Was Killed for the Color of His Skin'. Apparently just him.

Oh, forgot to clear that that post was about Jacobin mag.

#FreeTheNip....er... Delegates

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/anti-trump-group-to-run-ads

Clinton aides have not revealed who is standing in for Trump, and they said it is possible that multiple people could play the role.

debate prep per wapo

How have GOP operatives not realized yet that talking to Robert Costa is…not helping them much

It's a change since July, when they admitted that 'Yes, Philando Castile

that was what the governor said (to a bit of surprise / controversy), so their 'admission' probably reflects the source they were writing about??

xpost -- Costa's in the catbird seat and credit to him. He got his start doing work at NRO, built up his contacts and has been open about the fact a lot of GOP types see him as more 'trustworthy' than that there hated mainstream media etc. etc. Yet nobody seems to have twigged that, at least from what I can tell, he pretty much thinks most of the GOP types in Washington at least are easily led idiots.

They probably like to be listened to

x-posts: No, they aren't that bad :) The article is about other writers trying to minimize race in the case.

The simple answer as to why so many are all of a sudden writing that people need to help the white working class is, well, because now they have to. Because power has shifted from the white working class to the new democratic coalition of african-americans, hispanics and college educated whites. So before the white working class decided what would happen, now they don't, so now everyone else has to help them, even if they perhaps didn't help anyone else before.

mook, the WFP are a ballsless Dem front, i loathe them with the fire of a thousand suns

stevie has the political acuity of Trump's hair

the fire of a thousand suns in on the low end of yr loathing scale tho no

let's not bring up ethan

and twat

stevie has the political acuity of Trump's hair

c'mon man i thought you were a comedian

Shakey otm re do-nothing 100+ days unless the Dems can take the house and then some:

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a48071/republican-plan-ruin-clinton-presidency/

If HRC wins the election, it is going to be in great part because a Republican Party that ate the monkeybrains 40 years ago has developed within itself a prion disease that has produced a public hallucination instead of a candidate. She should not govern by pretending that the prion disease will disappear because El Caudillo de Mar-A-Lago cratered. If the Republicans decide to freeze the agenda, to the detriment of the country, that has to be framed by the administration as a further example of the political dementia that also produced Donald Trump.

the "also" is going to be the thing that trips the Dems unless Clinton's serious about governing.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cq-pstkXYAAOBBm.jpg:large

gaaaaah confusing graph

i get it now finally

https://twitter.com/DankJillMemes/status/769927003747127297

...

dank

And in the continuing 'hit up the marks' scam that is GOP fundraising of all sorts:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/donald-trump-fundraiser-hawes-227486

loooolll, my FB (and nearly every political website I go to) is flooded with that ad. who the hell would want to have dinner with Trump anyway? dude has terrible taste in fast food.

A link from that story:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1207004162651967&set=pcb.1207004212651962&type=3&theater

"We've been sparring back and forth via email regarding who should eat who's shit."

also tangentially-related; the role irony plays in my life probably means that someone in the Feingold camp sold their contact list after I donated to his campaign BUT if one of you is the reason I'm getting fundraising emails from Trump, I will fucking bury you

who the hell would want to have dinner with Trump anyway? dude has terrible taste in fast food.

We know he eats the finest taco bowls available. Also that he eats Famous Famiglia pizza... with a knife and fork.

Dunno about you but I'm gonna skip this one.

And well done steaks!

The way his mouth is shaped 90% of the time when he's talking I'm surprised it can accommodate any foods beyond spaghetti or milkshakes

Trump's mouth is a couple of tentacles shy of being outright Cthulhic. It's the gaping orifice of some unidentifiable but horrifying thing someone dredged from a tide pool.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/bzo3uwvaa7yvwykleh1g.jpg

And, much like his floundering campaign, most of Trump's horrifying physical traits are of his own doing. No one made him talk like he's gumming a mouthful of invisible taffy.

Dear bizarro gazzara, this is friendly notice that I am going to hunt you down for that image. Your friend in Jesus, Andrew.

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/61076603.jpg

On a previous iteration of this thread I am ashamed to admit that I compared the mouth of one of the Trumpspawn to that of a lamprey.

http://i.imgur.com/ktqpVJf.jpg

I denounce myself for contributing to the coarsening of the discourse that really ought to be about the many serious issues facing our nation.

Still: dude looks like a fuckin lamprey. Just sayin.

They are the McPoyles of the super rich

I do understand concerns about focusing on the physical appearance of political candidates, but it seems noteworthy when the candidate in question oddly goes out of his way to make himself more physically grotesque than he naturally is. Trump would probably just look like any other old dude if he didn't seem perpetually hellbent on outdoing Lon Chaney.

...and happy to talk about Carly Fiorina's face, Marco Rubio's stature, etc. etc.

As the Old Testament (I think) said, those who doth disheth it out meet best be prepared to taketh it. Or something like that.

https://frinkiac.com/meme/S03E14/496880.jpg?b64lines=IGV2ZW4gdGhvdWdoIHRoZXkgc2F5IGl0J3MKIG9rYXkgaW4gdGhlIEJpYmxlLgogClJlYWxseT8gV2hlcmU_IAoKVWguLi5zb21ld2hlcmUgaW4gdGhlIGJhY2su

good morning!

Man, there are more Homer biblical misquotes for argumentation's sake than I remember:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PQVkq0HJGWI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQVkq0HJGWI

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrCnlRRUAAE5MHi.jpg

'this guy weiner is bad news and hillary should have had nothing to do with him (i know him very well btw)'