I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOTTOM IS • US presidential elections part VIII

What proximity did Weiner have to Clinton's sensitive/secret information? I was under the impression that Abedin worked for her but Weiner didn't?

i think trump assumes that weiner is such an incredible lover that abedin couldn't help but blurt out highly classified information after he sexed her into unprofessionalism

can you imagine what this man would do with Weiner penis photos?

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xp

at least we know it wasn't a stand down order

he's got that Shkreli-esque evil elf look

Trump essentially is the human equivalent of a dick pic.

A narcissistic and unconvincing expression of virility foisted upon people against their will, featuring a weird-looking mottled knob of flesh.

Checks out.

was this just a dicks out for Harambe thing ?

Trump essentially is the human equivalent of a dickcolonoscopy pic.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, August 29, 2016 1:35 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Checks out for Harambe?

kinda surprised he hasnt said some dumb shit about colin kaepernick yet

as Hil once voted to make flagburning illegal, let's ask her about Kaepernick

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That sounded so fucking stupid that I actually had to look it up, since I remembered nothing about it, and of course while it was a dumb, pandering bill, it stated:

Amends the federal criminal code to revise provisions regarding desecration of the flag to prohibit: (1) destroying or damaging a U.S. flag with the primary purpose and intent to incite or produce imminent violence or a breach of the peace; or (2) stealing or knowingly converting the use of a U.S. flag either belonging to the United States or on lands reserved for the United States and intentionally destroying or damaging that flag.[3]

In other words, even if someone burned a flag and a fight broke out, unless a prosecutor could prove in federal court that it was done "with the primary purpose and intent to incite or produce imminent violence or a breach of the peace," nobody would ever have been prosecuted under this law.

Also, since it was simply introduced on the Senate floor and never made it any farther, Hillary didn't "vote on" anything, you tiresome bore.

guys remember when flag burning was a hot campaign issue

a more innocent time

one of Scalia's rare honorable majority opinions was in Texas v Johnson.

I thoroughly expect Trump to eventually burn a flag onstage in a ham-handed attempt to Bialystock his way out of this whole 'running for president' quagmire he blundered into.

That sounded so fucking stupid that I actually had to look it up,

and now you sound so fucking stupid.

(it's the symbolism that HRC was voting for -- the police-state, jingoistic symbolism)

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"Hey guys... hey guys. Hey! Hey guys, listen... so I'm running for Vice President"

pleats

running for vp of pleats

veats

pence is such a joke, i had to like think for a few seconds to even remember what this boring asshole's name was

pence pleats in plea for veep seat

(it's the symbolism that HRC was voting for -- the police-state, jingoistic symbolism)

as you ought to know, many times votes are taken on bills that will never be made law in order to create a record that can be cited during a future campaign against a legislator. Hillary is enough of a practical politician that she side-stepped that booby trap ("my opponent voted in favor of flag-burning!!!"). There is nothing honorable about that, but the whole issue was a shameless contrivance for cheap political advantage and should not be taken seriously as indicative of her beliefs.

must i look up the Dem senators who were not practical politicians, and hence voted against that crap?

you know ppl make the same argument about her Iraq war vote (hopeless people)

guys remember when flag burning was a hot campaign issue

― Οὖτις, Monday, August 29, 2016 2:05 PM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i am rewatching west wing at the moment and there is an entire episode about this (among many other things that seem vv naive now)

Morbz is right that the flag-burning vote was totally stupid. Fairly irrelevant to bring it up now tho, since it had no impact on anything and is indicative of nothing beyond Hillary being an overly-cautious politician, something everyone is already aware of.

Dem senators who were not practical politicians, and hence voted against that crap?

I suspect the Dem politicians who voted against it were A) from relatively safe Dem states and B) were not preparing to run for president in 2008. Hence, they were being just as practical as Hillary was. There's nothing honorable in this, as I said; it is calculating. And presidential ambitions require different calculations than re-election to a senate seat from NY.

w/weiner the sexting stuff had previously sort of eye-rolling tabloid BS but i think this particular instance is genuinely creepy and horrible.

Since it was never voted on at all, please, do waste your time looking up all the Dem senators who voted against it. Maybe it'll keep you busy until the twelfth of never.

The Flag Protection Act of 2005 was a proposed United States federal law introduced by Senators Hillary Clinton and Robert Bennett.

CO-INTRODUCED

Yes. Introduced, referred to Judiciary Committee, promptly died a well-needed death, never voted on, you complete fucking moron.

i did not remember that (i am oldish)

i underrate her calculations, always

just get Trumped.

Pence, Prince of Pleats, Peace?

Don't take a Pence

*walks back in thread after my idle comment about the kaepernick thing*
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albeit unsurprisingly!

Trump's been steadily gaining over the last 2 weeks according to 538...must be doing something right

Never bet against the lead levels in American drinking water!

We still have the debates ahead of us for him to really screw the pooch.

Trump's been steadily gaining over the last 2 weeks according to 538

yeah he went from 10% likelihood of winning to 12%, it's a real horse race at last

Trump's been steadily gaining over the last 2 weeks according to 538...must be doing something right

― frogbs, Monday, August 29, 2016 3:16 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no evidence of anything causal going on. he hasn't had any good news or positive mainstream press that might change people's minds in months. simplest explanation is (1) regression to mean (2) a change in response rates to polling after conventions dying away.

xp he's at 21.2% in polls-only. higher in the other two. still kinda amazing given that the man is just one consistently bad news cycle after another, but hey

xxp (3) the implausible extreme behaviour of the polls-only and nowcast models damping down as the election nears (which is behaviour they insert into those models by hand)

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oof sorry for huge

Wish I could actually put a ridiculous amount of money on Clinton at $0.80 right now, alas