I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOTTOM IS β€’ US presidential elections part VIII

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right, though that's shrinking too, though (state polls etc). though Hillary has a much easier path to 270 than the Orange Orangutan does

Neanderthal, Saturday, 10 September 2016 13:48 (seven years ago) link

Somebody please enlighten me why "basket of deplorables" is offensive.

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 10 September 2016 13:56 (seven years ago) link

cos Metallica decided on a much better album title later in 1986 and we've all forgotten it by now

Neanderthal, Saturday, 10 September 2016 13:58 (seven years ago) link

Because she's dividing the nation! It's exactly the same as Romney in 2012, don't you see!?!?! Gaffegaffegaffe. What she said happens to be true, though...

Frederik B, Saturday, 10 September 2016 14:00 (seven years ago) link

She's saying a segment of the US public is 'deplorable'. Imagine what would happen if Trump called a segment 'rapists' or something like that, I mean, his campaign would be over in a minute.

Frederik B, Saturday, 10 September 2016 14:02 (seven years ago) link

Reading through the whole of her comments, I agree with Oliver Willis: 'Hillary should apologize. MORE than half of Trump supporters are bigots. Get your numbers right, Clinton.'

And I don't particularly like Oliver Willis, I just follow a lot of different voices on twitter.

Frederik B, Saturday, 10 September 2016 14:04 (seven years ago) link

don't worry about national polls and concentrate on the electoral math

For what it's worth, Silver always points out--independent of this election; true of all presidential elections--that they move together, with state polls lagging a little behind.

clemenza, Saturday, 10 September 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link

Kinda weird to hear her attacking the public but then again these are the same people who yell "lock her up" and "Trump that bitch" at his rallies

frogbs, Saturday, 10 September 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link

At the end of the day you just gotta deal from strength. Or get crushed every time.

frogbs, Saturday, 10 September 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link

the 47% comment was abad for romney for many reasons, perhaps most important of which he was losing at the time!

i don't buy that this "deplorables" comment is a deliberate gaffe (the language is too ridiculous and pompous for it too have been planned) but it's also unlikely to make a huge difference imo https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/10/who-will-hillary-clintons-basket-of-deplorables-comment-actually-alienate/

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Saturday, 10 September 2016 15:08 (seven years ago) link

but yeah from her POV there are worse things for the TV to be discussing seriously than "are trump supporters racist cranks?", which is one of the outcomes of this

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Saturday, 10 September 2016 15:09 (seven years ago) link

i knew we'd have another 'scare' sometime before the election but i thought it would be an actual trump lead and not just hillary's lead tightening a bit. if this is the worst it gets then i'm not worried.

Mordy, Saturday, 10 September 2016 15:12 (seven years ago) link

esp considering that i continue to believe that a. polls are undercounting dem support and b. dem ground game this year will be excellent and rep non-existent. i've already been called half a dozen times in PA by dem organizers asking me to volunteer, or talk to me about the election, and seen registration drives 3-5 times in montgomery county. i haven't seen a single trump presence except one sign at the jersey shore, and maybe 2 bumper stickers. oh, and a couple trump signs at an all white, all male rigger warehouse in chester county.

Mordy, Saturday, 10 September 2016 15:16 (seven years ago) link

and i work in one of the most favorable industries for trump - construction + demolition. ppl who you'd think are trump supporters are pretty much just not discussing politics. and these aren't generally modest ppl. if they were hyped they'd be talking trump. all anecdotal obv. also although among orthodox jews there are still outspoken supporters, way more right-wing orthodox jews are refusing to vote for him. so instead of seeing right wingers argue w/ left wingers about politics (and israel mostly, and how BDS is an evil anti-jewish organization), the right wingers are arguing with right wingers who think trump is a monster. it's a nice shift from business as usual.

Mordy, Saturday, 10 September 2016 15:19 (seven years ago) link

Means the left-wingers can focus on arguing with each other about Israel

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Saturday, 10 September 2016 15:24 (seven years ago) link

is it wrong for me to read the chart above as saying that all presidential candidates including Clinton have a pretty high % of racist supporters?

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Saturday, 10 September 2016 15:33 (seven years ago) link

probably easier to read it as 'americans are pretty racist'

mookieproof, Saturday, 10 September 2016 15:36 (seven years ago) link

may possibly extend beyond Americans too...

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Saturday, 10 September 2016 15:37 (seven years ago) link

she is the worst

Neanderthal, Saturday, 10 September 2016 16:13 (seven years ago) link

probably easier to read it as 'americans are pretty racist'

I think the best way of reading this is "a significant proportion of white people of all political stripes believe this and trump has more white supporters than clinton does." I'll bet if you only asked white Clinton supporters vs white Trump supporters the difference would be a lot smaller.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 10 September 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link

Jesus, that infographic makes me want to start drinking at noon.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 10 September 2016 17:15 (seven years ago) link

It's Saturday, come on down

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Saturday, 10 September 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link

I read that as 'even though Trumps supporters are way over that line, they're not exactly skewing the average, therefore there aren't many Trump supporters'

Mark G, Saturday, 10 September 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link

I read that as "set approximately 62.3% of the nation on fire immediately"

Neanderthal, Saturday, 10 September 2016 19:01 (seven years ago) link

smh

https://twitter.com/RogerJStoneJr/status/774684329016299520

otm in the rain (Eazy), Saturday, 10 September 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link

I don't get how this is a gaffe for Clinton. The people she's calling out are those who are most likely to celebrate their deplorability (see above), and the only quibble anyone is likely to have is with the percentage.

Our Meals Are Hot And Fresh! (Old Lunch), Saturday, 10 September 2016 20:03 (seven years ago) link

and for a little context: Les Moonves: Trump's run is 'damn good for CBS'

larry appleton, Saturday, 10 September 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link

nice to see Hillary just telling the truth and not worrying about being politically correct

frogbs, Saturday, 10 September 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link

what a bizarre turn of phrase to have to read all over the news for a weekend, though

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Saturday, 10 September 2016 21:02 (seven years ago) link

who's the guy next to Milo in the Roger Stone tweet? Bannon?

Wozniak on Kimye's Baby (jaymc), Saturday, 10 September 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link

dunno if you're gonna hear much of this tomorrow but god damn

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfetkVkWEAI0l8A.jpg

frogbs, Saturday, 10 September 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link

it came up back in September '15 too and nobody gave a fuck

Neanderthal, Saturday, 10 September 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link

*quip about andy kaufman*

brimstead, Saturday, 10 September 2016 21:51 (seven years ago) link

"he was just saying they structurally weren't great buildings. Trump likes buildings that don't collapse!"

Neanderthal, Saturday, 10 September 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link

jaymc: that's Alex Jones

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Saturday, 10 September 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link

*chinatown parodical quote*

brimstead, Saturday, 10 September 2016 21:57 (seven years ago) link

xp Ah, thanks. (I'd never even heard of Alex Jones until two months ago.)

Wozniak on Kimye's Baby (jaymc), Saturday, 10 September 2016 22:08 (seven years ago) link

why would ~you~ have heard of alex jones

jason waterfalls (gbx), Saturday, 10 September 2016 22:42 (seven years ago) link

lol, hi evan

Wozniak on Kimye's Baby (jaymc), Saturday, 10 September 2016 23:51 (seven years ago) link

hi! i honestly couldn't remember if i even did that right

jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 11 September 2016 00:46 (seven years ago) link

hi

Evan, Sunday, 11 September 2016 02:53 (seven years ago) link

hi

until the next, delayed, glaciation (map), Sunday, 11 September 2016 02:55 (seven years ago) link

hellllloooo

until the next, delayed, glaciation (map), Sunday, 11 September 2016 03:12 (seven years ago) link

Hannity/Lowry/Kristol fight in progress on Twitter. I like to picture each one in his study with a glass of port and an iPhone.

otm in the rain (Eazy), Sunday, 11 September 2016 03:34 (seven years ago) link

Oh, even better: Hannity is in the wings at a Rascall Flatts concert, alternating between jabs and concert pics.

otm in the rain (Eazy), Sunday, 11 September 2016 03:37 (seven years ago) link

Can't he just enjoy the Rascal Flatts concert?

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 11 September 2016 03:54 (seven years ago) link


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