I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

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you're right, we've generalized.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 00:19 (seven years ago) link

NEW YORK — When a black woman asked to rent an apartment in a Brooklyn complex managed by Donald Trump’s real estate company, she said she was told that nothing was available. A short time later, a white woman who made the same request was invited to choose between two available apartments.

The two would-be renters on that July 1972 day were actually undercover “testers” for a ­government-sanctioned investigation to determine whether Trump Management Inc. discriminated against minorities seeking housing at properties across Brooklyn and Queens.

Federal investigators also gathered evidence. Trump employees had secretly marked the applications of minorities with codes, such as “No. 9” and “C” for “colored,” according to government interview accounts filed in federal court. The employees allegedly directed blacks and Puerto Ricans away from buildings with mostly white tenants, and steered them toward properties that had many minorities, the government filings alleged.

In October 1973, the Justice Department filed a civil rights case that accused the Trump firm, whose complexes contained 14,000 apartments, of violating the Fair Housing Act of 1968.

but maybe blacks and puerto ricans are also not races

Mordy, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 00:21 (seven years ago) link

He also said he didn't want "black guys" counting his money but wanted "Jews in little hats."

Cumstaun (Phil D.), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 00:23 (seven years ago) link

The only way to not know all this is to either a) have read nothing since last April or b) be pretending not to for reasons of one's own.

Cumstaun (Phil D.), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 00:24 (seven years ago) link

He's been punished for housing discrimination against african-americans, he called mexicans rapists, he said a mexican judge couldn't be impartial, he wants to ban muslims from entering the us, he pushed the birther conspiracy, he attacked a muslim woman for being silenced by her husband, he took out an add portraying native americans as drug addicts, he called for the death penalty for the central park five, doubled down after they were relased, he refused to condemn david duke, he called for the bombing of the innocent families of terror suspects, he said that he hated having black accountants...

Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 00:29 (seven years ago) link

he wasn't even a Mexican judge!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 00:32 (seven years ago) link

No, you're absolutely right! My bad.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 00:33 (seven years ago) link

But OTOH he likes taco salad, so...

schwantz, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 00:33 (seven years ago) link

in Trump's America "deplorable" will be a protected class

serge thoroughgoods (will), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 00:37 (seven years ago) link

his highlighting the deplorable stuff gins up the people who go to his rallies, which is about the extent of his strategic horizon, because he lives off endorphins and social shares.

but it's also amplifying a charge about him that is perhaps the single one most likely to give the "moderates"/"independents" who supposedly decide elections the vapors.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 00:51 (seven years ago) link

love how the media is taking trump's bait and reporting on the pneumonia as if it is somehow revelatory of a "tranparency" problem on the part of clinton. great job.

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:05 (seven years ago) link

To be fair I don't think trump has said much about the pneumonia. I attribute that to strategic incompetence rather than decency.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:25 (seven years ago) link

he laid the seeds by stoking all this health conspiracy stuff. if that wasn't in the air this wouldn't be seen as a scandal. it would be seen as a 68 year old with pneumonia having a hard time in the heat one day.

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:27 (seven years ago) link

no one seriously cares how frail hillary is physically. she is obviously more than mentally tough enough to be president. this is all concern trolling nonsense.

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:28 (seven years ago) link

reporting on the pneumonia as if it is somehow revelatory of a "tranparency" problem on the part of clinton.

uhhh David fucking Axelrod's twitter indicated he thought it was such a problem also

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:34 (seven years ago) link

btw it was 80 degrees w/ low humidity here on Sunday morning

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:35 (seven years ago) link

today not yesterday bro

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:36 (seven years ago) link

it was hot yesterday. it was humid.

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:36 (seven years ago) link

she was wearing a bulletproof vest under a navy suit.

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:37 (seven years ago) link

also the NY Times has run several in-depth pieces on Trump's sordid history -- i've read a few -- so i don't quite get how they're in the tank for him.

not at 9:30a.m. xxp

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:37 (seven years ago) link

if that wasn't in the air this wouldn't be seen as a scandal. it would be seen as a 68 year old with pneumonia having a hard time in the heat one day.

idk, Dole in 96 or McCain in 08 weren't much older than Clinton is now - if one of them had been filmed collapsing and then being bundled into a car, and then their campaign had to announce that they had been diagnosed with pneumonia a couple of days earlier it seems like that would have been a story? if not to the same extent as what we're getting now, maybe.

soref, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:38 (seven years ago) link

lol ffs Bush temporarily gave control of the government to Cheney while he got a frigging colonoscopy and nobody cared. Reagan had several surgeries for fairly serious health problems -- not to mention getting shot -- and everyone handwaved it away.

Cumstaun (Phil D.), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:40 (seven years ago) link

they're obviously not "in the tank" for our friend mr. donald trump but they're covering this as a "scandal" because that is the kind of narrative that draws clicks and comments xp

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:42 (seven years ago) link

Clinton didn't think illness was 'going to be that big a deal'
Eric Bradner
By Eric Bradner, CNN
Updated 9:09 PM ET, Mon September 12, 2016

like, wtf is this headline.

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:43 (seven years ago) link

do the ppl who think hillary's coughing "raises questions" about her ability to be president think FDR and JFK should've been disqualified from office b/c of their physical issues? or eisenhower, who had a heart attack in his first term?

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:44 (seven years ago) link

no. of course not.

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:44 (seven years ago) link

eisenhower, who had a heart attack in his first term?

and a stroke!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:46 (seven years ago) link

he also had surgery for chrons disease.

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:47 (seven years ago) link

btw it was 80 degrees w/ low humidity here on Sunday morning

― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius),

I forgot you're a 68-year-old woman in an iron vest with possible pneumonia campaigning for hours and shaking dirty hands.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:48 (seven years ago) link

meanwhile Randy Quaid shows up outside new Trump DC hotel:

https://twitter.com/swin24/status/775502656932614144

by the light of the burning Citroën, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:49 (seven years ago) link

@davidaxelrod
When the exact same problems crop up in separate campaigns, with different staff, at what point do the principals say, "Hey, maybe it's US?"

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:49 (seven years ago) link

btw for those who think, like K-Ham today, that she should've informed the world about her illness on Friday, how would the news have changed? The news over the weekend -- all weekend -- would have been, "What other illnesses is HRC hiding? She should release her medical records!"

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:50 (seven years ago) link

i forgot you're a boyband manager in an iron lung.

xxp

It's not the pneumonia, it's the coverup.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:50 (seven years ago) link

it's the Questions Raised.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:52 (seven years ago) link

If that racist Trump is elected, I swear I'll move to another white majority country like Canada or Sweden.

punksishippies, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:55 (seven years ago) link

oof. the withering sarcasm cuts deep. good post.

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 01:56 (seven years ago) link

Haha who is this guy

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 02:17 (seven years ago) link

There are plenty of white people Trump and his supporters want to beat up/murder. Being white doesn't really exempt you from it.

larry appleton, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 02:21 (seven years ago) link

some guy on the internet said he'd move to canada if trump was elected i guess trump isn't really racist

Mordy, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 02:22 (seven years ago) link

hillary covered up having pneumonia bc she's a sneaky terrible person and the moment she got the diagnosis she should've held a press conference bc we expect our politicians update us immediately on every medical development in their lives

Mordy, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 02:23 (seven years ago) link

i'm so glad ilx's collection of dumbasses is growing it really makes me feel like i'm experiencing all the wonders the american zeitgeist has to offer

Mordy, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 02:24 (seven years ago) link

I've had people say it's a quickening, actually

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 02:25 (seven years ago) link

I just want to say fuck the media for empowering and normalizing this guy and his follower's hate-driven ideology. It may seem "lol", but it's not, people really are acting out on this stuff. God damn. I'm in Trump country now, suburban NJ only 5 miles outside of NYC, and it's the only place I've ever lived where I'v felt unsafe, and that includes Bed Stuy, Flatbush, Washington Heights, etc, where I was a minority. Being white majority really doesn't make you safe with these types. And I just look like a guy whose lived in NYC for the past decade. I'm getting the fuck out of here ASAP, and I'll do whatever it takes to help quash this shit.

larry appleton, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 02:46 (seven years ago) link

suburban new jersey is not trump country

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 02:50 (seven years ago) link

there is one guy in princeton who sits outside starbucks everyday with a trump sign and everyone makes fun of him

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 02:50 (seven years ago) link

yeah it's strange they called the deplorable comment a 'gaffe' because it was most definitely done on purpose for some very deliberate reasons:

1) it causes the media reporting on it to investigate "are they racists/homophobes/Islamophobes?" for which there is a ton of evidence
2) it makes the most vocal and horrible half of Trump's fans speak out and act offended, thereby making them more visible to the other half of Trump voters
3) it causes that half to try to "own" the nickname which is terrible optics, plus it creates confirmation bias whenever Trump supporters do something horrible
4) it gives the media an easy way to corner the campaign, as they did today with Pence. Pence either has to refuse to disavow the KKK, or admit that Hillary was kinda right

if I were opposite-day Scott Adams I'd be jizzing myself right now

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 02:50 (seven years ago) link

hillary's campaign should shine a light on r/thedonald

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 02:52 (seven years ago) link

eisenhower smoked 4 packs a day!

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 02:52 (seven years ago) link


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