I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

who talks about their fucking kids like this

"hey, junior might need to water the tree of liberty with your blood, can you spare a few pints"

fucking psychos

i think a lot of this bullshit is related to (stupid) people's childish need for excitement all the god damn fucking time. why are these conservatives so averse to being good stewards of the earth and society? even when one gets into a real position of power -- fucking governor -- he fantasizes about being mel gibson in the patriot instead.

He's got nine kids! Who'll miss one or three if it keeps that liberty tree goin'?

think that was a Pat Buchanan go-to quote

just found some important information about watering trees with blood:

http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2102366.html

i think a lot of this bullshit is related to (stupid) people's childish need for excitement all the god damn fucking time. why are these conservatives so averse to being good stewards of the earth and society? even when one gets into a real position of power -- fucking governor -- he fantasizes about being mel gibson in the patriot instead.

^god, this. is it possible that at least some of these guys ever get embarrassed by this shit? or is business just too good?

i'm sure he's just saying what he actually believes

i'm sure he's just saying what he actually believes

I agree. He's sincere about his anguish over the civil war he imagines is coming. What bears examining is what his beliefs are based on.

It is no accident that Armageddon is envisioned as a literal armed battle. For believers, only massive bloodshed can cleanse away the sins of the world. Very likely he is projecting a similar mindset onto what he thinks of as "God's country" and its sins against God's laws. It is a mistake to discount how powerful an effect this mythology has on millions of Americans. It is totally real to them.

tribalism taken the logical next level - killing each other!

i think a lot of this bullshit is related to (stupid) people's childish need for excitement all the god damn fucking time. why are these conservatives so averse to being good stewards of the earth and society? even when one gets into a real position of power -- fucking governor -- he fantasizes about being mel gibson in the patriot instead.

― Treeship, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 23:08 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There is no doubt that these are the stanzas of a madman the likes of whom it horrifies one to think of as the recipient of high public office, but let's all be clear-eyed and brave in front of any gods or holies we each hold dear and sacred when we declare that the claim that the threat our side is facing today, or this week, year or election cycle is the worst ever faced and will drag all progress with it if given an inch is a claim that the left makes as easily, as untruthfully and as wildly as the right.

yeah no as much as the Left hated Bush or the idea of Palin I honestly don't remember this rhetoric about some sort of civil/ holy war.

Yeah no obv the left will not couch it in the terms of the right so congrats on that

when faced with its latest worst-ever threat, the american left talks about such wild things as moving to canada, not killing the people with which it disagrees

yep exactly the same

Yep. The nascent challop will certainly allow that the left does not react in similar fashion having so declared said threat.

will are u here to defend the castle or what who asked you to defend the castle you don't seem particularly well equipped btw nobody is attacking the castle its just a spectacularly boring hollow echoing thread on us politics i promise u the castle is unthreatened by any post I make here

those namby-pamby liberals trying to escape to Canada will be the first ones up against the wall when the revolution happens.

i didn't say the left wasn't prone to grandiosity and overreaction at times as well

you're just projecting that on my statements in order to make some false equivalency for god knows what reason

(though i've often said if you want to see some gun control in this country real quick like all you need to do is get a bunch of brown and black guys with "Obama 2016 - ∞" t shirts nonchalantly open-carrying in red states/ suburban areas)

and I didn't disagree the right was, nor claim one side was not a damn sight better than the other. but extremism and the kindling for extremism and the baiting and language and thirst and fervour for drama and excitement and insistence that it all gets cured or dies forever on MY WATCH comes from all sides and is probably that much more disappointing and damaging from the side that ought to be the natural enemy of it

that would not result in gun control xp

idk imago, reagan made short work of open carry in california when the panthers marched on sacramento

nah you're right. i just want some t shirt that say "Obama 2016 - ∞"

regardless, it's a bad strategy for achieving gun control.

Cant prove a false equivalency!

God knows what reason = if ilx really has to keep over and die then dear fuckin christ let it now be in the manner of the eight or ten puke election threads so far this year. Oooh dat trump! ooooooooOOOOOOooo DAT TWUMP!

man ppl are bad at this thread

not/now

jclc can we fight pls

I'd ask hoos but he's actually irl

though she denies it to the press, that escalated quickly

I'm going to just keep starting new threads until this stops happening

I'll be there. Waiting.

will are u here to defend the castle or what who asked you to defend the castle you don't seem particularly well equipped btw nobody is attacking the castle its just a spectacularly boring hollow echoing thread on us politics i promise u the castle is unthreatened by any post I make here

no. no i'm not here to defend any castle. nor will i defend the virtue of liberal rhetoric in american politics. but i think it's fair and even worthwhile to point out that democratic pols, for all their faults, haven't (yet!) jumped on this holy/ civil war crazy train.

but i suppose i could do so in a less glib manner. these threads have gotten tense!

I welcome the escalation tho it mirrors something vital from irl

I'd again note, less snippily perhaps, that the lefts dire consequences will naturally not take the same shape as those of the right but do think it's worth considering whether the claimed likely consequences are of a similar magnitude of disaster. Not 'holy war' but idk 'london nightclub closes' or some shit

he tweaks. he tweaks.

http://www.twitter.com/arthousetrump

what left?

Sad! is still considered Funny! ?

Gov. Mike Pence came to Capitol Hill on Tuesday on a mission to promote Republican unity, attacking Hillary Clinton for describing many supporters of the G.O.P. ticket as bigoted “deplorables” and urging Republicans to rally behind their nominee, Donald J. Trump.

But Mr. Pence struggled to press the attack: In separate news conferences, House and Senate Republican leaders declined to join Mr. Pence, the Indiana governor and vice-presidential nominee, in rebuking Mrs. Clinton over her remark.

Mr. Pence wound up raising the subject only when pressed by a reporter — and then gave a halting answer in which he would not call David Duke, a white supremacist and onetime Ku Klux Klan leader, “deplorable.” He insisted instead that Mrs. Clinton did not have “that bad man” in mind when she assailed Mr. Trump’s supporters.

It was a noticeable break in stride for the Trump campaign, which had zeroed in on Mrs. Clinton’s remark at a Manhattan fund-raiser Friday night — one for which she expressed regret the next day — running a new commercial and dispatching surrogates to attack her for what Mr. Trump has termed a “slander” of his “wonderful, amazing” followers.

Congressional Republicans were even blunter in private.

An otherwise friendly morning meeting with House Republicans turned awkward when Mr. Pence was pressed by Representative Jeff Fortenberry of Nebraska about Mr. Trump’s difficulties with women, said two House Republicans who relayed the conversation. Mr. Fortenberry told Mr. Pence that his young daughter had come to him and said, “Daddy, Donald Trump hates women,” according to one of the lawmakers, who both insisted on anonymity to recount a private conversation.

“It’s just not true,” Mr. Pence shot back, arguing that Mr. Trump was improving with women, the two House Republicans said.

they ate Chik-Fil-A too

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/republicans-privately-panic-at-terrifying-prospect-of-trump

“I’ve heard a lot of conservatives voicing frustration, like, ‘How fucking hard is this, Hillary?’” said Ben Howe, a conservative ad-maker and an outspoken Trump detractor. “That’s the only reason I’m panicked these days … I’m losing faith in Hillary’s ability to win this easy-ass election.”

At last, a Big Tent!

Is that really a big tent, or you just happy to see it?

*ooooh*

Finally the thread gets around to talk of pitching a big tent

these last two threads have been fucking terrible

@tinyrevolution

The rules of US politics are

1. The GOP could nominate a geoduck and 45%+ of Americans would vote for it
2. Democrats can lose to a geoduck

xp but they're artisanally fucking terrible

I'd vote for a geoduck