I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

I welcome the escalation tho it mirrors something vital from irl

I'd again note, less snippily perhaps, that the lefts dire consequences will naturally not take the same shape as those of the right but do think it's worth considering whether the claimed likely consequences are of a similar magnitude of disaster. Not 'holy war' but idk 'london nightclub closes' or some shit

he tweaks. he tweaks.

http://www.twitter.com/arthousetrump

what left?

Sad! is still considered Funny! ?

Gov. Mike Pence came to Capitol Hill on Tuesday on a mission to promote Republican unity, attacking Hillary Clinton for describing many supporters of the G.O.P. ticket as bigoted “deplorables” and urging Republicans to rally behind their nominee, Donald J. Trump.

But Mr. Pence struggled to press the attack: In separate news conferences, House and Senate Republican leaders declined to join Mr. Pence, the Indiana governor and vice-presidential nominee, in rebuking Mrs. Clinton over her remark.

Mr. Pence wound up raising the subject only when pressed by a reporter — and then gave a halting answer in which he would not call David Duke, a white supremacist and onetime Ku Klux Klan leader, “deplorable.” He insisted instead that Mrs. Clinton did not have “that bad man” in mind when she assailed Mr. Trump’s supporters.

It was a noticeable break in stride for the Trump campaign, which had zeroed in on Mrs. Clinton’s remark at a Manhattan fund-raiser Friday night — one for which she expressed regret the next day — running a new commercial and dispatching surrogates to attack her for what Mr. Trump has termed a “slander” of his “wonderful, amazing” followers.

Congressional Republicans were even blunter in private.

An otherwise friendly morning meeting with House Republicans turned awkward when Mr. Pence was pressed by Representative Jeff Fortenberry of Nebraska about Mr. Trump’s difficulties with women, said two House Republicans who relayed the conversation. Mr. Fortenberry told Mr. Pence that his young daughter had come to him and said, “Daddy, Donald Trump hates women,” according to one of the lawmakers, who both insisted on anonymity to recount a private conversation.

“It’s just not true,” Mr. Pence shot back, arguing that Mr. Trump was improving with women, the two House Republicans said.

they ate Chik-Fil-A too

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/republicans-privately-panic-at-terrifying-prospect-of-trump

“I’ve heard a lot of conservatives voicing frustration, like, ‘How fucking hard is this, Hillary?’” said Ben Howe, a conservative ad-maker and an outspoken Trump detractor. “That’s the only reason I’m panicked these days … I’m losing faith in Hillary’s ability to win this easy-ass election.”

At last, a Big Tent!

Is that really a big tent, or you just happy to see it?

*ooooh*

Finally the thread gets around to talk of pitching a big tent

these last two threads have been fucking terrible

@tinyrevolution

The rules of US politics are

1. The GOP could nominate a geoduck and 45%+ of Americans would vote for it
2. Democrats can lose to a geoduck

xp but they're artisanally fucking terrible

I'd vote for a geoduck

I attended The Evergreen State College in Olympia, Washington and therefore I am a Geoduck, and so is Lynda Barry.

that's my new fav fun fact about Aimless

What does not terrible look like in an election thread?

iatee and legume talkin bout us mail

definitely nonterrible sequence:

pretty sure first thing prez trump will do is shut down ilx

― a (waterface), Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:21 AM (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"These people, they're not very nice you know ... They say they Love Everything . They love music, they love football, they love this they love that ..,and you know what? They're confuuused. They don't really know what they love. And they're sick ! Oh I don't even wanna tell you some of the horrible horrible things they say. Don't get me started on Ned Raggett ...what kind of a name is that? But like I said, they're just not very nice people and we're going to close them down and shut them up and we're going to make our country great again"

― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:40 AM (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wow, you've really perfected his cadence.

― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:45 AM (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what might Don 'n' Glenn think?

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:45 AM (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Imus and Beck?

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:50 AM (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Don't get me started on Ned Raggett
Aw man.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:53 AM (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

who do these people think they are, trying to tell me what's a classic and what's a dud? Let the American people make up their own minds.

― Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:54 AM (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I actually think, I have to make deals with ILX and a lot of these people, they are great people. Terrific people. You know what they say we need to do? You know what they believe in? TAKING SIDES. They take sides. That's what we need to do. That's why we don't win anymore! Everybody says, Donald, you can't say that, you can't take sides, you might offend somebody! Well I'll tell you what, come 2017, that's outta there. We're gonna take the sides, we're gonna take the oil and we're going to win against ISIS, we're gonna win against Radiohead, and we're gonna make America great again.

― shandemonium padawan (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:09 AM (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tick vg!

― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:12 AM (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Picking only ten! That's for losers."

― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:18 AM (six months ago)

so apparently kurt eichenwald has been busy

Nate Silver ‏@NateSilver538 33m33 minutes ago
In past years, media consensus would look at recent polls and say "it's a tossup". This year, attitude is still "Clinton's got this".

Nate Silver ‏@NateSilver538 11m11 minutes ago
As others have mentioned, there are echoes of Brexit here. Clinton's narrowing lead over Trump a lot like Remain's over Leave at this point.

Nate Silver ‏@NateSilver538 6m6 minutes ago
That's NOT to predict Trump will finish well (as Leave did). But I see people making excuses to treat a clear possibility as a remote one.

Nate Silver ‏@NateSilver538 4m4 minutes ago
I need to justify my continued existence and hedge against the outside possibility of looking stupid again.

Ed Kilgore is more annoying than Chait. There I said it. I spotted his lazy think piece from the headline alone this morning. He's like TPM's John Judis, but for nymag.

that's an interesting method of psychotherapy

xpost

that comparison is so glib and facile that i'm surprised even nate silver in 2016 would make it

Both things are bad and both things either had or could hypothetically wind up having more voting support than expected, what's facile about it?

Also "WTF happened with Brexit" is a hanging question for polls and those that love them.

Brexit was a straight referendum, decided solely by the ballots cast by voters. This is not that.

"Both things are bad and both things either had or could hypothetically wind up having more voting support than expected"

this is true of every presidential election.

literally the only thing this election and brexit have in common in terms of how the race is polling, the events that have driven it, and what could plausibly happen over the next couple of months, is: there are two sides, and one is currently more likely to win than the other.

of course brexit was box office and the nowcast sells clicks so...

I was being ironical, it is indeed a facile comparison

What do you (as distinct from the punter cloud) think could plausibly happen over the next couple of months, caek?

farage will sail in a boat up the chesapeake bay

when faced with its latest worst-ever threat thread, the american left talks about such wild things as moving to canada, not killing the people with which it disagrees

... FIXED

i would still like the list of Obama '12 states that are voting Trump this year

there'll be a couple, but more?

Nate Silver ‏@NateSilver538 4m4 minutes ago
I need to justify my continued existence and hedge against the outside possibility of looking stupid again.

― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, September 14, 2016 2:58 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well, yeah...

there'll be a couple, but more?

I see no reason to think there'll be even one. The reason the race is competitive is that a relatively small national move in support towards Trump would move some states into his column, and that might happen -- but it hasn't happened yet. I guess Florida is the most likely. But I think there's at least a 50-50 chance Clinton wins every state Obama won in 2012. (Or more, if things move in the other direction.)

he can justify his continued existence by going back to baseball

xp

Did Obama lose Indiana in 2012? Cause Trump is for sure winning there

Yep.

Obama got crushed by Romney in Indiana, losing by 10 points. Not a ton of polls there but most have Trump doing about as well as Romney.

Trump can have Florida (and Ohio) and still lose. Heck, you can throw in North Carolina and Nevada while we're at it.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#stateorder

This is not to say one should not be worried. Personally I'll pretty much be sticking my fingers in my ears and saying "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU" about all election news until November. That said, whenever I do think about this, I'm going to cling to that 538 "winding path" graphic in the hopes that it is at least focusing on the metric that matters.

Is it starting to sink in? Do you still think pneumonia is all she has, no other health problems? Have you seen the polls since she was recorded "fainting"? Why is #DNCleak trending for 2 hours this morning...they usually disappear that shit. Is it because we are in fait accompli territory but you can't see it yet? Or is this just sexism on my part?

Oh my god, fuck off.

Why do niggas push pounds and powder?
Why did Bush knock down the towers?
Why you around them cowards?
Why Aaliyah have to take that flight?
Why my nigga D ain't pull out his Ferrari?
Why he take that bike?
Why they gotta open your package and read your mail?
Why they stop letting niggas get degrees in jail?
Why you gotta do 85% of your time?
And why do niggas lie in 85% of they rhymes?
Why a nigga always want what he can't have?
Why I can't come through in the pecan Jag?
Why did crack have to hit so hard?
Even though it's almost over, why niggas can't get no jobs?
Why they come up with the witness protection?
Why they let the Terminator win the election?
Come on, pay attention!
Why I sell in the stores what you could sell in the streets?
Why I say the hottest shit but be sellin' the least?

hope dmac was able to wake up and get himself to work this morning

Man Trump's speeches have really gotten strange...

xp

lol man alive

Why is the sky blue? Why is water wet? Why did #DNCLeak cover up the emails while Hillary fainted? Or is this just sexism on my part?

Fucking pneumonia, how does it work?