I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

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lol

marcos, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 20:27 (seven years ago) link

dying @ "clobbweed" apparently being a word Alfred's phone is autocorrecting to

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link

Heh

https://twitter.com/alivitali/status/776151773836873729

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link

the "not half" remark was really smart imo and can be easily interpreted as "more than half", probably if you're not white tho. i think it's breaking in her favor.

savvinesslessness (map), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt8DoNerIPY

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link

nytimes front page helpfully informs that on dr oz trump's weight is revealed as 267 pounds, which makes him obese. an obese 70 year old man. unfortunately he's also taking a statin so, if they are effective, he might not have the heart-attack im hoping for anytime soon.

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 20:37 (seven years ago) link

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell offered up his unfiltered view of the Clintons in newly leaked emails from Powell’s personal account that were dumped online in a password protected database that was accessed by TPM on Wednesday.

“I would rather not have to vote for her, although she is a friend I respect,” the retired four-star general wrote of Hillary Clinton in a July 24, 2014 email to business partner Jeffrey Leeds, published by the anonymous site DC Leaks. “A 70-year person with a long track record, unbridled ambition, greedy, not transformational, with a husband still dicking bimbos at home (according to the NYP).”

Asked about the authenticity of that email, Powell wrote to the New York Post, “Jeez, don’t remember this one. Best to ignore., (sic) don’t you think?”

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/colin-powell-leaked-emails-clintons-unfiltered-opinion

marcos, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link

the "not half" remark was really smart imo and can be easily interpreted as "more than half", probably if you're not white tho. i think it's breaking in her favor.

Trump supporters are literally buying "I'M DEPLORABLE" T-shirts so yeah this is a big win for Hillary

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 20:45 (seven years ago) link

Trump is doing best in Ohio, Iowa, Nevada, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Maine. If he wins it will be because he flipped the midwest, and the people who are afraid of hispanics in Nevada. I have no idea if those states are enough for a win, though, and I don't think he'll win them anyway. But those are the states that depress me when I look at the 538 map.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link

I have no idea if those states are enough for a win

they are not

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 20:54 (seven years ago) link

dying @ "clobbweed" apparently being a word Alfred's phone is autocorrecting to

― frogbs, Wednesday, September 14, 2016

you don't even wanna know all the synonyms for "twaddle" my phone's got saved

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 20:54 (seven years ago) link

you can add Florida, Iowa, Arizona, New Mexico, to that list and he STILL wouldn't have enough

xxp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link

Trump supporters are literally buying "I'M DEPLORABLE" T-shirts so yeah this is a big win for Hillary

Yeah my only (afaik) Trump supporter friend just posted a FB meme with Leonardo DiCaprio toasting "Here's to all us deplorables."

Wants to impose Sriracha law in America (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:02 (seven years ago) link

I wasn't really impressed with Eichenwald's piece.. I guess I was hoping he had secretive info about Russians financing TrumpCo but its basically a ton of shitty licensing deals with shady developers and alot of hyperventilating about conflicts of interest..

― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries),

you're right -- he should've deleted it

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link

@dick_nixon
You like to think Powell isn't mean because he's black and he speaks well and he served a long time. My God, what do you think it takes?

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link

yeah it's really something symptomatic of people who spend way way too much time in online echo chambers and have no clue how their "ironic" racism is seen to the world at large. like none of these people believe they actually have racist tendencies and are unable to speak in anything other than memes. so they give the "deplorable" thing a ton of attention which leads low-information voters who are otherwise sensible down the path where they learn that many Trump supporters are violent assholes and literal Nazis. what's better I think the Clinton campaign was at least somewhat aware that this was gonna happen? I dunno but I've never seen so many people willingly own themselves like this

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link

the question i ask myself as i hit fp for the 100th time xp

savvinesslessness (map), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link

i expect you do not understand the nixon twitter.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:13 (seven years ago) link

or history, or politics, possibly how to work a zipper...

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link

is Morbz spitting dope rhymes now

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link

the fact that colin powell uses "dicking" to refer to casual sexual intercourse makes me like him a lot

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link

nobody watched this.

it matters less who watches and how they responded as to how the media spin it. the bush/gore debates were wins for gore in overnight polls, but once the press corps had spun its silvery story, gore had "sighed over and over" or told several new "lies" - stories that sharpened perceptions of gore as a condescending, untrustworthy elitist

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link

538 gives Trump over 35% in his polls-only, that's a high for him (outside of that RNC week)

I know electoral math and all that but this is seriously terrifying me right now, since the Clinton health thing hasn't even really hit the polls yet

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link

like now Trump's up 5 in the Ohio? what the fuck

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:22 (seven years ago) link

the same way they have a Republican governor

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link

you realize 35% is still comparatively low odds right

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link

(why am I holding your hand like this)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link

YOU REMEMBER THAT GEORGE W. BUSH, A MAN-IDIOT, BEAT AL GORE FOR THE PRESIDENCY RIGHT

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link

actually he didn't

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link

what do you mean "comparatively low odds". 35% is 35%.

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link

he won a bullshit court case, he didn't win an election

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link

35% is 35%.

which is zero in a zero/sum game like a national election

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link

ie 26 points away from victory

you think the electorate's gonna shift 26 points in 8 weeks?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link

er 16 sorry

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link

Ohio goes to Trump now on the 538 map, and Clinton still has 297 electoral votes. No reason to panic just yet. Except over the fact that racism isn't immediately disqualifying to such a large part of the electorate, and that the media is rubbish, etc. Oh, and that famed neo-con Clinton soon will be president. Other than that, no need to panic.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link

actually he didn't

huh, funny, I seem to remember George W Bush running the country for 8 years

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link

xxp 538's election simulator doesn't work like that though, it simulates the election 10,000 times (or whatever) and determined that Trump wins 3,580 of those. The popular vote numbers are something like 46/43. I'm not sure if Trump can make that up but it's within the margin of error

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:32 (seven years ago) link

i expect you do not understand the nixon twitter.

― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, September 14, 2016 10:13 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

or history, or politics, possibly how to work a zipper...

― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, September 14, 2016 10:14 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you're really fuckin relentlessly stupid and nasty on this thread. it's weird because you're civil elsewhere. you're more two-faced than any politician and your word is just as worthless. get your shit together.

savvinesslessness (map), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:32 (seven years ago) link

huh, funny, I seem to remember George W Bush running the country for 8 years
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, September 14, 2016 4:29 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

erm – wasn't he basically installed by a bunch of judges?

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:37 (seven years ago) link

they stole it fair and square.

backatcha, map

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:40 (seven years ago) link

Bush did not win the popular vote, even in the final "approved" count

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:40 (seven years ago) link

he was installed by the court, in a ruling that was so narrow and meretricious that it's an embarrassment

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link

2000 popular vote results:

Gore: 50,999,897
Bush: 50,456,002

ugh just reading this makes livid with rage (similar to the feeling I get reading this "Black Flag" book about Zarqawi/Iraq/ISIS)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link

a decision that isn't even binding

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:44 (seven years ago) link

Bush won, via an incredibly tight race, probably some dirty tricks and a sympathetic court

note: won, not lost

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link

yeah the 2000 fiasco never loses its power to make me furious after all these years

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link

recall how utterly clownish and unsuited for the job Bush was, in contrast to Gore's experience and general decency

recall Bush winning despite millions having decided Gore wiped the floor with him in the debates

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link

the fact that colin powell uses "dicking" to refer to casual sexual intercourse makes me like him a lot

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, September 14, 2016 5:17 PM (fifty-one minutes ago)

hehehe i thought the same thing

have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 22:10 (seven years ago) link

you realize 35% is still comparatively low odds right

Comparatively? I don't know--depends what you're comparing it to. The chance of flipping two heads in a row is 25%. I'm sure you'd be happier if Trump's chance of winning (if you accept Silver's forecast) weren't 10% better than the chance of flipping two consecutive heads.

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link

"To Whom My Concern"

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link


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