I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

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^ narrow gauge railway xp

PappaWheelie V, Thursday, 15 September 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link

I have mixed feelings about rates being this low for this long, but the suggestion that it's political is completely absurd

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 15 September 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link

I remember there being a $500 airbrushed jeans jacket w/rhinestones & Conway's face on the back

TWITTY JACKET 4 PREZ

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 15 September 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link

AMERICA, YOU'VE NEVER BEEN THIS FAR BEFORE

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 15 September 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link

How far was Opryland from Dollywood? Dollywood is totally worth hitting and is far weirder than one would expect. The mix of Branson and Cedar Pointe and county fair and eagle/owl sanctuary is pretty singular.

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Thursday, 15 September 2016 22:10 (seven years ago) link

that's in Pigeon Forge about 4 hours away.

serge thoroughgoods (will), Thursday, 15 September 2016 22:19 (seven years ago) link

"This morning while I was watching the news I saw many reports that I had endorsed Hillary Clinton," read Parton's statement. "My comment about supporting a woman in the White House was taken out of context. I have not endorsed Hillary Clinton nor Donald Trump. I try not to get political but if I am, I might as well just run myself 'cause I've got the hair for it, it's huge, and they could always use more boobs in the race."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 September 2016 22:35 (seven years ago) link

What a way to make a livin'!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 September 2016 22:48 (seven years ago) link

lol Dolly I love her

Οὖτις, Thursday, 15 September 2016 22:57 (seven years ago) link

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_next_20/2016/09/ralph_nader_and_the_tragedy_of_voter_as_consumer_politics.html

Michelle Goldberg bit on Nader 2000 helping encourage voter-as-consumer atomization

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Thursday, 15 September 2016 23:16 (seven years ago) link

and she will always love you xp

PappaWheelie V, Thursday, 15 September 2016 23:16 (seven years ago) link

How to Tell If You’re a Jerk: If you think everyone around you is terrible, the joke may be on you.

Here’s something you probably didn’t do this morning: Look in the mirror and ask, am I a jerk? It seems like a reasonable question. There are, presumably, genuine jerks in the world. And many of those jerks, presumably, have a pretty high moral opinion of themselves [...] They don’t think of themselves as jerks, because jerk self-knowledge is hard to come by.

http://nautil.us/issue/40/learning/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-jerk offered without comment

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Thursday, 15 September 2016 23:18 (seven years ago) link

i will vote for Dolly

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 15 September 2016 23:18 (seven years ago) link

Dollywood is also far more gay than I think most of its senior attendees would realize.

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Thursday, 15 September 2016 23:20 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/akcdoWy.jpg

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 15 September 2016 23:21 (seven years ago) link

lol Ben Harper is playing Friday at my local Hillary campaign office

Mordy, Thursday, 15 September 2016 23:29 (seven years ago) link

538 think hillary is more likely to win now than she was after the RNC. all the prediction places agree on this afaict.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 15 September 2016 23:29 (seven years ago) link

loool at dude behind Trump

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 September 2016 23:30 (seven years ago) link

never been to dollywood, as noted it's pretty far off. would love to go tho'!

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Friday, 16 September 2016 00:37 (seven years ago) link

(little girls _are_ america in those pictures naturally)

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Friday, 16 September 2016 00:38 (seven years ago) link

When pressed on whether he continues to believe the long-refuted claim that President Barack Obama is not a US citizen and was not born in Hawaii, Trump replied, "I’ll answer that question at the right time. I just don’t want to answer it yet.”

never. apologize. ever.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 16 September 2016 00:54 (seven years ago) link

they could always use more boobs in the race

I want this election to go on for six more months just so we have time to get through all the amazing thread titles

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 16 September 2016 01:07 (seven years ago) link

xp he wants to answer that in the debate when he's get maximum attention/praise for saying obama is a natural born citizen. he doesn't care if it's true or not. he just wants to prolong/maximize the attention.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 16 September 2016 01:13 (seven years ago) link

they could always use more boobs in the race

Dolly is wrong, for she hasn't seen Trump naked. Only his doctor has.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 September 2016 01:16 (seven years ago) link

one other polling remark: we just went through the abrupt change when polling becomes a much more reliable prediction of the election (they're on average right within like 8 points until the end of august, and then jump to within 3-4 in september, http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/23/upshot/were-about-to-enter-a-period-of-polling-volatility.html).

so while this may feel like a swing or a change due to events, it's just as, if not more easily explained as "it was always fairly tight, but now we're measuring more accurately"

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 16 September 2016 01:37 (seven years ago) link

aren't the polls also switching from 'registered voters' to 'likely voters'?

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 16 September 2016 01:41 (seven years ago) link

also that for sure. if both screens are modeled correctly then that should make no difference, but if they screw up correcting for one or the other screen then that would likely result in apparent jump in republican support.

whether the jump is from or to the right answer is another question, but the point is it doesn't necessarily imply a shift in the race.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 16 September 2016 01:45 (seven years ago) link

pretty good article: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/9/15/1570341/-Daily-Kos-Elections-2016-forecast-Polling-day-from-hell-has-little-effect-on-the-bottom-line

on PEC, meanwhile, people are flipping out because two days after Sam said it was ridiculous how people were freaking out, his Meta-Margin went down to 2.5%, and the random drift to 77%, Bayesian to 86%.

it is kind of ridiculous, in a way, because we fucking did this same shit in 2012 (freak out)

Neanderthal, Friday, 16 September 2016 02:09 (seven years ago) link

I've been doing it since 2008, youngsters.

Somehow in 2004 I felt Kerry was gonna lose the whole time, so I never had that "oh no it's getting away from us" moment.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 16 September 2016 02:21 (seven years ago) link

Kerry was never ahead iirc. Sorta like trump.

Οὖτις, Friday, 16 September 2016 02:26 (seven years ago) link

Trump was ahead for a few days right after the Republican convention, I think.

clemenza, Friday, 16 September 2016 02:29 (seven years ago) link

Nope

Οὖτις, Friday, 16 September 2016 02:31 (seven years ago) link

Wouldn't it make more sense to look at an aggregate of polls?

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo#now

clemenza, Friday, 16 September 2016 02:35 (seven years ago) link

Even in the link you posted yourself:

Trump, however, now leads Clinton by 2 points (41 to 39 percent) in a four-way general election matchup with Libertarian Gary Johnson (10 points) and Green Party candidate Jill Stein (5 points). This is up 1 point from last week.

clemenza, Friday, 16 September 2016 02:37 (seven years ago) link

man that's the first Daily Kos article I've read in years.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 September 2016 02:39 (seven years ago) link

This was in that kos article and I thought it was helpful too

https://blog.electiontracking.surveymonkey.com/2016/09/14/2016-vote-and-party-id-the-same-data-tell-two-stories/

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 16 September 2016 03:17 (seven years ago) link

Happier times:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dear-media-stop-freaking-out-about-donald-trumps-polls/

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 16 September 2016 03:18 (seven years ago) link

this is amazing

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CscPbYsWYAEFms7.jpg:large

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 16 September 2016 03:19 (seven years ago) link

i wonder how much of trump's support is abused people who need an abuser.

savvinesslessness (map), Friday, 16 September 2016 03:22 (seven years ago) link

wow. thank goodness trump was around to bring the ugly incident to its conclusion, lol

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 September 2016 03:23 (seven years ago) link

Bizarre enough in and of itself; doubly so when combined with what he said yesterday.

Trump refused to say whether he believes Obama was born in Hawaii.

“I’ll answer that question at the right time,” Trump said. “I just don’t want to answer it yet.”

clemenza, Friday, 16 September 2016 03:25 (seven years ago) link

Yes a 2 pt lead in a 4-way gen election nat'l matchup ie a thing that never happens and has no relevance

Xxp

Οὖτις, Friday, 16 September 2016 03:25 (seven years ago) link

it's sad he was a closer

soref, Friday, 16 September 2016 03:26 (seven years ago) link

So birtherism is "vicious and conniving"... but not when Trump does it?

jmm, Friday, 16 September 2016 03:32 (seven years ago) link

25 million jobs!

Treeship, Friday, 16 September 2016 03:33 (seven years ago) link

well don't forget, trump believes the actual unemployment rate is above 40%

Clay, Friday, 16 September 2016 03:40 (seven years ago) link

Something something labor force participation but tbh that's in permanent decline and it's Good Actually™

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Friday, 16 September 2016 03:43 (seven years ago) link

“When offered a choice between two politically intolerable alternatives,” accord­ing to Alasdair MacIntyre, "it is important to choose neither. And when that choice is presented in rival arguments and debates that exclude from public consideration any other set of possibilities, it becomes a duty to withdraw from those arguments and debates, so as to resist the imposition of this false choice by those who have arrogated to themselves the power of framing the alternatives."

http://commonknowledge.dukejournals.org/content/15/3/340.full.pdf

Mordy, Friday, 16 September 2016 04:01 (seven years ago) link


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