I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

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Yes a 2 pt lead in a 4-way gen election nat'l matchup ie a thing that never happens and has no relevance

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Οὖτις, Friday, 16 September 2016 03:25 (seven years ago) link

it's sad he was a closer

soref, Friday, 16 September 2016 03:26 (seven years ago) link

So birtherism is "vicious and conniving"... but not when Trump does it?

jmm, Friday, 16 September 2016 03:32 (seven years ago) link

25 million jobs!

Treeship, Friday, 16 September 2016 03:33 (seven years ago) link

well don't forget, trump believes the actual unemployment rate is above 40%

Clay, Friday, 16 September 2016 03:40 (seven years ago) link

Something something labor force participation but tbh that's in permanent decline and it's Good Actually™

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Friday, 16 September 2016 03:43 (seven years ago) link

“When offered a choice between two politically intolerable alternatives,” accord­ing to Alasdair MacIntyre, "it is important to choose neither. And when that choice is presented in rival arguments and debates that exclude from public consideration any other set of possibilities, it becomes a duty to withdraw from those arguments and debates, so as to resist the imposition of this false choice by those who have arrogated to themselves the power of framing the alternatives."

http://commonknowledge.dukejournals.org/content/15/3/340.full.pdf

Mordy, Friday, 16 September 2016 04:01 (seven years ago) link

This is a Trump tweet from 2013: "How amazing, the State Health Director who verified copies of Obama’s “birth certificate” died in plane crash today. All others lived"

Frederik B, Friday, 16 September 2016 09:20 (seven years ago) link

MediaMatters on the many times Trump raised the birther issue after he apparently 'brought closure' to it in 2011: http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/09/16/trump-campaign-statement-clashes-recent-birther-claims-made-trump-and-surrogates-media/213133

'Was it a birth certificate? You tell me. Some people say that was not his birth certificate. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I’m saying I don’t know. Nobody knows.' etc.

Frederik B, Friday, 16 September 2016 09:36 (seven years ago) link

i wonder how much of trump's support is abused people who need an abuser.

― savvinesslessness (map)

not seeing a shortage of abusers right now tbh

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Friday, 16 September 2016 10:35 (seven years ago) link

as long as they remain convinced that it's the "other" who are the ones being abused more

serge thoroughgoods (will), Friday, 16 September 2016 11:53 (seven years ago) link

being *going to be

serge thoroughgoods (will), Friday, 16 September 2016 11:54 (seven years ago) link

Fuck that statement for reals. That is some of their most offensive shit to date imo

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 16 September 2016 12:05 (seven years ago) link

And this fucking asshole will not get called out on it of course

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 16 September 2016 12:06 (seven years ago) link

Yes a 2 pt lead in a 4-way gen election nat'l matchup ie a thing that never happens and has no relevance

Whether it's relevant or not is not the same question as whether it happened or not. I just find it weird that you're adamant that Trump has never led. The RCP tracking poll had him ahead during the same window that Nate Silver did (July 25-29, right after the Republican convention):

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

It's not important. Which is basically the point--conceding that Trump was indeed ahead for two or three days two months ago doesn't really hurt Clinton's chances in November.

clemenza, Friday, 16 September 2016 12:10 (seven years ago) link

of all the amazing things about that trump campaign statement, my favourite is that senior communications adviser jason miller doesn't understand how inverted commas and paragraphs work together

also i read 'inarguably donald j trump is a closer' as 'is a loser' the first time

a very in-your-face, hard-edged machine bottom (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 September 2016 12:10 (seven years ago) link

thanks for bring this to a conclusion in 2011

In a August 2013 interview with ABC News, Trump said: "Was it a birth certificate? You tell me. Some people say that was not his birth certificate. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I'm saying I don't know. Nobody knows."
And in December 2013, Trump even implied that a Hawaii official who had vouched for the birth certificate's authenticity had been murdered. "How amazing, the State Health Director who verified copies of Obama’s 'birth certificate' died in plane crash today. All others lived,"

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 16 September 2016 12:49 (seven years ago) link

this pic pretty much sums up the election

http://i.imgur.com/luzV2z3.jpg

frogbs, Friday, 16 September 2016 13:30 (seven years ago) link

im so tired of this piece of shit

marcos, Friday, 16 September 2016 13:31 (seven years ago) link

Seriously. He's like a human oil spill. He ruins everything and it's going to take forever to clean up his mess.

ALL TACOE'S 1/2 HALF "OFF" (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 September 2016 13:44 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsZdBwmXEAANSBT.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2016 13:45 (seven years ago) link

Ines de La Cuietaraverified account ‏@InesdLC
Art inside the Trump/Pence HQ at Trump Tower in NYC

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2016 13:45 (seven years ago) link

v important to note the actual wall there between USA & Mexicp

serge thoroughgoods (will), Friday, 16 September 2016 13:46 (seven years ago) link

This is what's going to be painted on the Mexico side.

Cumstaun (Phil D.), Friday, 16 September 2016 13:47 (seven years ago) link

on the side of the taco bowl

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 September 2016 13:48 (seven years ago) link

Now that he's half-assed (like a full asshole) semi-conceded Obama was born in the USA, maybe he'll suggest building a wall between America and Hawaii.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2016 13:48 (seven years ago) link

@realDonaldTrump
Attention all hackers: You are hacking everything else so please hack Obama's college records (destroyed?) and check "place of birth"
3:06 AM - 6 Sep 2014

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 16 September 2016 13:49 (seven years ago) link

He really is the greatest used cars salesman from NJ that ever lived at this point.

Evan, Friday, 16 September 2016 13:53 (seven years ago) link

The eagle is nimbly dodging a barrage of throwing stars.

jmm, Friday, 16 September 2016 13:54 (seven years ago) link

i mean that statement they put up is just all lies! it's really insane how this is so normal now.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 16 September 2016 13:54 (seven years ago) link

The double speak is truly jaw-dropping. Pence can be wrong on Iraq, but not Clinton. I am not a racist, but she is a bigot. I brought this horrible birther shit to a conclusion by bringing it up.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:03 (seven years ago) link

and half of the voting public is like "yep"

serge thoroughgoods (will), Friday, 16 September 2016 14:03 (seven years ago) link

Well, he tells it how it is.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:04 (seven years ago) link

My health records are private, but Hillary is secretly sick.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:04 (seven years ago) link

I am a successful business man because I have successfully weathered several bankruptcies. Hillary's husband is a philanderer, but I am happily married to my third wife.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:06 (seven years ago) link

Hillary needs to stop being secretive, no I won't release tax returns

Evan, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:11 (seven years ago) link

She has something she's hiding. I, however, have nothing to hide, which is why you don't need to see it.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:12 (seven years ago) link

"I just find it weird that you're adamant that Trump has never led" Clemenza dares to mention the fact that this thread is for Hillary Kool-Aid drinkers only--this bubble you are in mirrors that of the HRC campaign itself. The proof is in the pudding, she won't win without millennials and that pudding ship has sailed. We all tried to warn you, go with the not-"most hated" candidate who polls 10 pts over Trump consistently. Now look where you are?

Iago Galdston, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:17 (seven years ago) link

oh well at least now we know you're just a butthurt sanders supporter and not actually a rah-rah trumphead

Mordy, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link

got any metaphors to mangle before doctors put chloroform over your face?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 September 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link

Clemenza that RCP link had Clinton still up by 1.5 wtf

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Οὖτις, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link

i can't believe the extortion argument didn't work to convince dem primary voters. "you've got an awfully nice country here. it would be a shame if something happened to it. vote sanders 2016."

Mordy, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:20 (seven years ago) link

yeah Trump's projection skills are legendary at this point. I expect him to let it slip at some point that he thinks Hillary wants to bang Chelsea

frogbs, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:24 (seven years ago) link

Hillary has millennials in double digits over trump the fuck out of here with that

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 16 September 2016 14:25 (seven years ago) link

yeah but she doesn't have the millennial bernie primary voters dumb enough to think that gary johnson believes in the same things as them

Mordy, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:26 (seven years ago) link

Hillary has millennials in double digits over trump the fuck out of here with that

Yeah but you've got to get them out to vote but ugh no that's too hard I don't want to vote where's my allowance I need to order take out ugh.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link

She has something she's hiding. I, however, have nothing to hide, which is why you don't need to see it.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, September 16, 2016 10:12 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

BELIEVE ME

Evan, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link

All the handwringing over millennials reminds me that they don't vote

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 16 September 2016 14:30 (seven years ago) link

He really is the greatest used cars salesman from NJ that ever lived at this point.

He is from Queens, lazy slander against the Garden State is unnecessary.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 September 2016 14:30 (seven years ago) link


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