I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

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He really is the greatest used cars salesman from NJ that ever lived at this point.

He is from Queens, lazy slander against the Garden State is unnecessary.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 September 2016 14:30 (seven years ago) link

I'll have to check on it, but pretty sure Queens is in NJ.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:31 (seven years ago) link

no you're thinking of staten island

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Friday, 16 September 2016 14:32 (seven years ago) link

queens is in long island

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Friday, 16 September 2016 14:32 (seven years ago) link

anyway the Trump thing I'm horrified/secretly impressed by the most is his willingness to blatantly lie about anything, including things that wouldn't matter at all if not for his incredibly fragile ego - e.g. his claim that the people of Flint were chanting "let him speak! let him speak!" despite multiple accounts of "nobody said that, in fact they heckled you and the pastor you just attacked came to your defense".

frogbs, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:32 (seven years ago) link

All the handwringing over millennials reminds me that they don't vote

― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, September 16, 2016 10:30 AM (twelve seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Don't
Vote!
Don't
Drink!
Don't
Fuck!
At least I can
Fucking think!

how's life, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link

lol

marcos, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link

Frogbs it's because he's a narcissist sociopath

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 16 September 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link

He really is the greatest used cars salesman from NJ that ever lived at this point.

He is from Queens, lazy slander against the Garden State is unnecessary.

― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Friday, September 16, 2016 10:30 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was born and raised in NJ I can say whatever I want about it. Characterization is based off personal observations

Evan, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:39 (seven years ago) link

Millennials vote and they're voting for Hillary. Xposts

The generational story this election is white baby boomers going for Trump. Even in old age they prefer excitement to competence and narcissism to compromise.

Treeship, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:40 (seven years ago) link

Millennials don't have cars so how are they supposed to vote? I mean, ugh, can't we just do it all online? Like, text a thumbs up or something?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:40 (seven years ago) link

white baby boomers

White male baby boomers, which is still ironic, because the Clintons are like the ur-baby boomers. Won't see Fleetwood Mac at the Trump party, you'd get, like, Kansas.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:42 (seven years ago) link

Maybe there's a subreddit so they can upvote their candidate choice or whatever I'm bored now

Evan, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:42 (seven years ago) link

no fucking way does Trump like Kansas

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 September 2016 14:43 (seven years ago) link

But Kansas likes Trump, and you get what you can get.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:45 (seven years ago) link

(Probably likes Trump, I should say. It's either them or the Return of the Return of Bruno, pickings are slim.)

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:45 (seven years ago) link

Self-negating Greenwald:

A lot of times, you can invent examples that are just so extreme that they even cloud or obscure the debate rather than help it. So during the torture debate, everyone who wants to justify torture sits down and plays games with their imagination and looks to TV shows — “Okay, it’s a ticking time bomb with radioactive material in three hours and will kill 100 million people unless you torture someone. And do you do it?”

That’s a hard question to answer. You can’t answer that blithely. But the important thing is that scenario is never the case in the real world.

. . . Say, if Donald Trump has a heart attack, and he’s leading in the polls and he’ll win, and the doctor could say, “I could do everything possible to save his life, or I can just do a little less and maybe he’ll die and he won’t be president.” I wouldn’t want doctors making those kinds of decisions that way, and I don’t want journalists making those kinds of decisions either.

Cumstaun (Phil D.), Friday, 16 September 2016 14:47 (seven years ago) link

@jacobinmag
Hillary Clinton's new book has sold less copies than a Jacobin volume called "The ABCs of Socialism."

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 September 2016 14:48 (seven years ago) link

On a positive tip, I have to feel like, due to our constant exposure to Trump's untethered pathology, the critical thinking skills of a certain segment of the population are likely to improve at least a little. These are traits that many people may have never been exposed to before (or at least not to the outsized extent to which Trump's psychological ailments present themselves). Some people will always be swayed by, for example, a pathological liar's ability to utter falsehoods with complete conviction, but there are others who are going to get a lot better at calling people out when they pull a Trump and at spotting that shit a mile away when future politicians inevitably try to recapture Trump's special brand of insane magic.

ALL TACOE'S 1/2 HALF "OFF" (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 September 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link

xpost @jacobinmag The word you're looking for is 'fewer'.

ALL TACOE'S 1/2 HALF "OFF" (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 September 2016 14:50 (seven years ago) link

We don't need your bourgeois grammar.

Cumstaun (Phil D.), Friday, 16 September 2016 14:51 (seven years ago) link

Clemenza that RCP link had Clinton still up by 1.5 wtf

― Οὖτι]

It doesn't, no. Scroll down to the tracking poll on that page, Trump vs. Clinton; Trump takes over the lead--the red line moves above the blue line--for the same three days in July where Silver had him in the line.

I honestly feel silly pressing this point. I want Clinton to win. But I don't want to be one of those unskewed poll guys, trying to deny something that clearly is true.

clemenza, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link

"in the lead"

clemenza, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link

We don't need your bourgeois grammar.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/34/91/4a/34914a2f0d58ac5f36e4376fcd73fd13.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:58 (seven years ago) link

i wonder what kind of music trump likes? i wonder if he even likes music at all

global tetrahedron, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:02 (seven years ago) link

Can't remember where I saw it, but someone observed his pre-rally music was a lot of Andrew Lloyd Weber.

pplains, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:03 (seven years ago) link

Trump's favorite song is the last one he heard someone else playing.

ALL TACOE'S 1/2 HALF "OFF" (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 September 2016 15:07 (seven years ago) link

Millennials don't have cars so how are they supposed to vote? I mean, ugh, can't we just do it all online? Like, text a thumbs up or something?

Have it be like a dating app where you just like left-swipe some candidates and right-swipe others, then get back to yr cold-brew or whatever.

inimitable liver (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 16 September 2016 15:12 (seven years ago) link

Whether it's relevant or not is not the same question as whether it happened or not. I just find it weird that you're adamant that Trump has never led. The RCP tracking poll had him ahead during the same window that Nate Silver did (July 25-29, right after the Republican convention)

ah so a couple polls taken right after the convention showed him barely ahead, I concede this insignificant point and apologize for my misleading generalization that he's never been ahead.

Οὖτις, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:32 (seven years ago) link

xxp

Οὖτις, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:33 (seven years ago) link

Good times:

https://youtu.be/jSGLOLQz40M

Fuck you, Fallon and NBC.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:37 (seven years ago) link

oh wow he finally dropped the birther stuff

frogbs, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:38 (seven years ago) link

fallon sucks

marcos, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:41 (seven years ago) link

very magnanimous (is how it will be spun)

serge thoroughgoods (will), Friday, 16 September 2016 15:42 (seven years ago) link

Gee, Trump really caves under pressure. I was hoping he'd be stronger and hold his ground. What else will he flip flop on?

Evan, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:42 (seven years ago) link

fuck this guy forever but that was seriously some A+ clowning of CNN, this is amazing

frogbs, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:45 (seven years ago) link

this shit stain has turned this "campaign event" into a promotion for his new hotel! this is so fucking stupid

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 16 September 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link

but also, incredible

frogbs, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:49 (seven years ago) link

CNN is going into a full-on meltdown over this. On the other hand it's their own fault for being so stupidly gullible about this in the first place.

frogbs, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:50 (seven years ago) link

wait what happened on Fallon I missed something

Οὖτις, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:51 (seven years ago) link

link?

Evan, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:51 (seven years ago) link

xp

Evan, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:51 (seven years ago) link

he did a kiss ass interview and played with trumps hair

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 16 September 2016 15:51 (seven years ago) link

hey Trump hosted SNL he must be all right, right? all just a bit of fun!

Οὖτις, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link

Fallon is, perhaps counterintuitively to Clint, the nadir of Eastwood's "pussy generation" label

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 September 2016 16:01 (seven years ago) link

(except Fallon is actually what, about 44? he just entertains the post-funny cohort)

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 September 2016 16:02 (seven years ago) link

Fallon's always been a vacuum to me, an eager to please hack

Οὖτις, Friday, 16 September 2016 16:02 (seven years ago) link

At what point exactly is someone going to come back from the future and put a stop to all of this?

Evan, Friday, 16 September 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link


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