I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

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On the hotels, I've been looking at travelling to New York next year and the Trump hotels are all on offer, like 30-40% off. What a bargain I booked right away!

Seriously tho of any industry, the hotel game is so competitive and you have so many options in big cities that this is surely going to crucify the Trump brand, even the most politically ambivalent person hates him, leaving aside the huge numbers of wealthy people who he's racially slurred.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 18 September 2016 08:03 (seven years ago) link

i had a corporate booking in a trump hotel in vegas earlier this year and everyone who was staying was making slightly embarrassed jokes about it. plus there was staff industrial action so that everyone got handed a flier when they left in the morning about the hotel's opposition to their recent unionisation.

so yes, unless you really wanted to make some sort of weird statement, can't see many not thinking twice before booking.

Fizzles, Sunday, 18 September 2016 10:50 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, it's hard to correlate definitively, but it sure looks like his numbers are down. As a couple of reports this summer noted, nearly all of his properties are in blue state epicenters: New York, Chicago, etc. Mitigating, the prime mover of a lot of the stories is some booking site called Hipmunk, which defenders point out skews young in usage. There was another report from Foursquare (which I guess is still a thing?) that observes a steep drop off in check-ins, though the articles concede maybe people are too embarrassed to formally check-in. Anyway, these are the loose defenses, but there is probably at least some element of truth to it. It doesn't help that Trump shit-smears his name across every facade, which literally puts it in your face.

On a personal level, I can think of at least two, maybe three cases the past year where Trump's hotel came up as an option and we immediately took it out of the running.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 September 2016 12:50 (seven years ago) link

really, businesses are going to boycott the morally dubious? The end of capitalism at last.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 September 2016 13:35 (seven years ago) link

^trenchant

Neanderthal, Sunday, 18 September 2016 13:41 (seven years ago) link

^trenchant

As always.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 18 September 2016 13:52 (seven years ago) link

lol I thought it was a good post

marcos, Sunday, 18 September 2016 14:09 (seven years ago) link

They're really all over Trump and the birther press conference on the Sunday morning shows. Is it good for Trump to screw around with the press like on Friday and then gloat about it? Good for his 40%, who love it, otherwise probably not.

clemenza, Sunday, 18 September 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link

It makes the press look like chumps and babies. Nobody respects the press.

Οὖτις, Sunday, 18 September 2016 14:21 (seven years ago) link

xpost it's almost as if he saw the polls and....panicked

Neanderthal, Sunday, 18 September 2016 14:21 (seven years ago) link

All things being equal, and whatever the general perception of the media is, as a candidate I'd at least want my relationship with the press to be on par. If Friday hadn't happened, they would have had Clinton people on all morning trying to explain why polls have narrowed. That's been discussed only briefly; it's instead been Trump people looking silly trying to explain something that can't be explained.

clemenza, Sunday, 18 September 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link

why are people pretending that the Clinton '08 campaign was entirely innocent of making vague insinuations about Obama's origins?

i'm a trenchant motherfucker. always.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 September 2016 14:47 (seven years ago) link

i'm a trenchant motherfucker. always.

You misspelled "tedious."

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 18 September 2016 15:00 (seven years ago) link

x-posy: Because Trump lied about those insinuations so brazenly, that that's the bigger story now.

Frederik B, Sunday, 18 September 2016 15:01 (seven years ago) link

I didnt know they gave Doctorates in False Equivalency

Xp

Οὖτις, Sunday, 18 September 2016 15:01 (seven years ago) link

Watching Chuck Todd and his panelists and guests on NBC now, for the first time in months. Ugh. Todd asked bland, open-ended questions to Trump's manager, and is now busy discussing how Clinton is not inspiring, with Maureen Dowd.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 18 September 2016 15:27 (seven years ago) link

I know Morb's hate for Clinton is likely more complex than this, but is there a chance that Clinton-shadiness is a juicier thing to people in general because what makes conspiracies fun is the idea that there are things to uncover and actions to analyze and puzzle pieces that are to be revealed and fit together? Because Trump's plentiful and blatant corruption/sliminess is so obvious, talking about that stuff is less exciting.

Evan, Sunday, 18 September 2016 15:44 (seven years ago) link

I didnt know they gave Doctorates in False Equivalency

so, so fucking boring

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 September 2016 16:27 (seven years ago) link

Don't know what thread we would talk about this stuff, but thank god no one was killed
In the recent bombing.

two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Sunday, 18 September 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link

Discussing it in other thread on sna rn

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 18 September 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Csp6RaYVUAAvEqz.jpg:large

savvinesslessness (map), Sunday, 18 September 2016 19:19 (seven years ago) link

the Bad Lip Reading of the first Republican debate seems so long ago

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Sunday, 18 September 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link

WE DON'T GIVE A FUCK IT'S NOT YOUR BIRTHDAY

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 18 September 2016 19:31 (seven years ago) link

Sharing for the animated gif embedded:

https://mobile.twitter.com/gabriellahope_/status/776838486645174273

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Sunday, 18 September 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link

Hillary did spread a "smear photo" of O in 2008. She didn't start "birtherism," but it's not like she didn't traffic in the "he's a foreigner" business.

flappy bird, Sunday, 18 September 2016 20:02 (seven years ago) link

Oh look, someone snatched his phone back from his handlers

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/donald-trump-is-mad-online-1786757377

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Sunday, 18 September 2016 20:15 (seven years ago) link

Yes, flappy bird, and if Trump had said that, perhaps the media would talk about it. But Trump and his surrogates instead are concocting perhaps the most brazen lie of this entire campaign, so that's the news story.

Frederik B, Sunday, 18 September 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link

When Clinton starts claiming that actually it was Trump who fucked Monica Lewinsky, the news will talk about her lies. And some people will say 'well Trump is also an adulterer!' and that will be besides the point as well.

Frederik B, Sunday, 18 September 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link

dental plan
Lisa needs braces
dental plan
LIsa needs braces

Neanderthal, Sunday, 18 September 2016 20:45 (seven years ago) link

This atrocity has gone on too long new thread also ban all europeans

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Sunday, 18 September 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link

Trump is so nuts at this point you could spread the rumour that the NY bomb was his attempt to emulate Putin and his apartment bombings and it would be believable.

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Sunday, 18 September 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link

The New Chelsea Hotel--By TRUMP™

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 18 September 2016 22:08 (seven years ago) link

"Getting head in an unmade bed? Boring & Sad!"

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 18 September 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link

she should run on legalizing marijuana duh.

Mordy, Monday, 19 September 2016 01:31 (seven years ago) link

538, TPM, PEC, etc: "Don't pay much attention to any individual polls, or haphazard mixing-and-matching national and state polls using different methods"

every other outlet: "Look at this TREND identified by mixing and matching some state and national polls using different methods"

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Monday, 19 September 2016 02:28 (seven years ago) link

Speaking of state polls: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/a-notable-new-poll

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 September 2016 02:39 (seven years ago) link

Has anybody read Corey Robin's _The Reactionary Mind_? I just checked it out this weekend.

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Monday, 19 September 2016 02:56 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsrHLZ1WEAAAtn7.jpg

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 19 September 2016 03:18 (seven years ago) link

i dunno looks like trump is dominating to me

http://i.imgur.com/grtCaGb.gif

http://i.imgur.com/bWnD5FO.jpg

/dadgifjoke

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Monday, 19 September 2016 03:26 (seven years ago) link

kingfish the corey robin book is an entertaining jumble of essays. i think he has the rightist intellgentsia types clocked fairly well but he doesn't (and isn't really trying to) have an apparatus for understanding the trumpy mindset. since it's like a decade's worth of essays it can be repetitive and the thesis outlined in the introduction, while probably accurate, isn't effectively "proved."

i think the general ilx opinion is that corey robin is a clown. i kinda like the dude but he can be a little breathless.

adam, Monday, 19 September 2016 12:26 (seven years ago) link

otm. It has its pithy moments, notably when tracing the history of conservatism through the musty byways of Burke.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 September 2016 12:42 (seven years ago) link

He's more obnoxious as a blogger

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 September 2016 12:42 (seven years ago) link

I really can't see how events like this weekend's in NY/NJ, with a presumably Muslim suspect, do anything but help Trump. "We have to get real tough." That's as deep as it goes.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 September 2016 14:13 (seven years ago) link

what does that even mean? I also find it really strange that some people identify Trump as being tough. like what makes this fat privileged turd tough in their eyes?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 19 September 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link

well, for some, he's a man.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 September 2016 14:20 (seven years ago) link


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