I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

i'm a trenchant motherfucker. always.

You misspelled "tedious."

x-posy: Because Trump lied about those insinuations so brazenly, that that's the bigger story now.

I didnt know they gave Doctorates in False Equivalency

Xp

Watching Chuck Todd and his panelists and guests on NBC now, for the first time in months. Ugh. Todd asked bland, open-ended questions to Trump's manager, and is now busy discussing how Clinton is not inspiring, with Maureen Dowd.

I know Morb's hate for Clinton is likely more complex than this, but is there a chance that Clinton-shadiness is a juicier thing to people in general because what makes conspiracies fun is the idea that there are things to uncover and actions to analyze and puzzle pieces that are to be revealed and fit together? Because Trump's plentiful and blatant corruption/sliminess is so obvious, talking about that stuff is less exciting.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mike-pence-role-model-vice-president-dick-cheney/story?id=42170897

I didnt know they gave Doctorates in False Equivalency

so, so fucking boring

Don't know what thread we would talk about this stuff, but thank god no one was killed
In the recent bombing.

Discussing it in other thread on sna rn

Too little too late, but fuck it

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/18/us/politics/donald-trump-presidential-race.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Csp6RaYVUAAvEqz.jpg:large

the Bad Lip Reading of the first Republican debate seems so long ago

WE DON'T GIVE A FUCK IT'S NOT YOUR BIRTHDAY

Sharing for the animated gif embedded:

https://mobile.twitter.com/gabriellahope_/status/776838486645174273

Hillary did spread a "smear photo" of O in 2008. She didn't start "birtherism," but it's not like she didn't traffic in the "he's a foreigner" business.

Oh look, someone snatched his phone back from his handlers

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/donald-trump-is-mad-online-1786757377

Yes, flappy bird, and if Trump had said that, perhaps the media would talk about it. But Trump and his surrogates instead are concocting perhaps the most brazen lie of this entire campaign, so that's the news story.

http://www.cedmagic.com/featured/spider-man/cartoon-jameson-2135.jpg

When Clinton starts claiming that actually it was Trump who fucked Monica Lewinsky, the news will talk about her lies. And some people will say 'well Trump is also an adulterer!' and that will be besides the point as well.

dental plan
Lisa needs braces
dental plan
LIsa needs braces

This atrocity has gone on too long new thread also ban all europeans

Trump is so nuts at this point you could spread the rumour that the NY bomb was his attempt to emulate Putin and his apartment bombings and it would be believable.

The New Chelsea Hotel--By TRUMP™

"Getting head in an unmade bed? Boring & Sad!"

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/clinton-losing-key-millennial-support-nationally-key-states-n650076

she should run on legalizing marijuana duh.

538, TPM, PEC, etc: "Don't pay much attention to any individual polls, or haphazard mixing-and-matching national and state polls using different methods"

every other outlet: "Look at this TREND identified by mixing and matching some state and national polls using different methods"

Speaking of state polls: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/a-notable-new-poll

Has anybody read Corey Robin's _The Reactionary Mind_? I just checked it out this weekend.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsrHLZ1WEAAAtn7.jpg

i dunno looks like trump is dominating to me

http://i.imgur.com/grtCaGb.gif

http://i.imgur.com/bWnD5FO.jpg

/dadgifjoke

kingfish the corey robin book is an entertaining jumble of essays. i think he has the rightist intellgentsia types clocked fairly well but he doesn't (and isn't really trying to) have an apparatus for understanding the trumpy mindset. since it's like a decade's worth of essays it can be repetitive and the thesis outlined in the introduction, while probably accurate, isn't effectively "proved."

i think the general ilx opinion is that corey robin is a clown. i kinda like the dude but he can be a little breathless.

otm. It has its pithy moments, notably when tracing the history of conservatism through the musty byways of Burke.

He's more obnoxious as a blogger

I really can't see how events like this weekend's in NY/NJ, with a presumably Muslim suspect, do anything but help Trump. "We have to get real tough." That's as deep as it goes.

what does that even mean? I also find it really strange that some people identify Trump as being tough. like what makes this fat privileged turd tough in their eyes?

well, for some, he's a man.

my guess is they don't pay attention - thing about Trump is he's a stereotypical bully, "tough" only when his targets are far away. he would never make his "what the hell do you have to lose?" pitch to an actual black crowd - when he met with Mexico's president he didn't dare bring up that he would make them pay for the wall.

and all the bullyboy schoolyard talk xp

"presumably Muslim"

he's a racist who promoses to mete out unfair, unjust punishment to nonwhite people, which equates with 'toughness' to racists

xp (to the tune of "Suddenly Seymour")

hey Phil, howbout if i said "any suspect with Ahmad or Khan in his name," you fucking fuck? ie a *****head to the average American shitstain who sings the national anthem. OK?

thing is, people have been saying for practically a year that any domestic attack somehow automatically plays into trump's hands, just because terrorism/ISIS/strongman-against-threats talk is a huge part of his campaign. but it hasn't held up with previous events, in large part because he tends to respond to all news items in transparently self-aggrandizing and stupid ways that make him look uninformed, unreliable, and dangerous. not to his supporters but to everybody else.

he seemed to go up in the polls after san bernardino, but it's never been clear to me that there was any causal relationship there - the boost he got corresponded almost 1:1 with ben carson's precipitous decline, and the timeline overlaps with all the scrutiny put on carson's record, the grain-storing pyramids, all of that. IIRC he basically went down or stayed where he was after paris and orlando.

It's just nice that you've ~presumably~ already eliminated the possibility of a white person!

from the NY Times:

Here’s what we don’t yet know:

• Who was responsible for the explosion, but the police released a photo of a suspect, Ahmad Khan Rahami, wanted in connection with the bombing.

i'll be charitable and just assume you missed this.

There is such a thing as a white Muslim too.

Or a non-white non-muslim. The possibilities are endless!

In an interview on Fox and Friends this morning, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump discussed the recent bombing in New York City and bragged that he “called it.” Trump said in the interview that he should be a newscaster because “I called it before the news” and that he knew this would happen.

This is another instance of Trump seemingly taking credit for being right during a tragedy; after 49 people were killed in a shooting at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando over the summer, Trump tweeted, “Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism…”

In the interview on Monday, Trump used the New York bombing as evidence that the Obama administration is not tough on terror. But when pressed on specifics, Trump had difficulty explaining what he would change in his administration.

Trump told Fox host Steve Doocy that to fight terrorism, “we’re going to have to do something extremely tough over there.” When Doocy asked Trump what that means, Trump responded, “Like knock the hell out of them.” There have been nearly 10,000 air strikes against ISIS in Iraq alone since 2014.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/watch-video-donald-trump-respond-response-to-new-york-city-chelsea-bombing-ahmad-khan-rahami-terrorism-brag-called-it-foreign-policy-iraq/

sounds like a dove to me!