I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

uh, are you thinking i posted that as an endorsement? if yes, did you hit your head this morning?

I think it's only a matter of time before your anti-Clinton mania tips over into objective pro-Trumpism.

kiss my ass.

it's interesting how many Clinton supporters, whatever their level of enthusiasm, have been driven fucking nuts by this election.

Happy Monday everyone! How was your weekend?

Looking forward to President Trump sending the Three Stooges into Arabland or wherever to knock the hell out of 'em and make their heads spin.

What is this fantasy world his mind occupies? What do we do about terror? We beat it, because we're winners and they're losers. What do you do about a problem? You fix it. I'm three years old.

How do you respond to a question? With an answer. Tautologies are solutions.

The Tony Soprano attitude distracts from and compensates for the lack of any reference to the miracle logistics required to fulfill his many promises. For example he mentioned how he would "end terror" this past weekend, right?

End terror, and replace it with something much, much better.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/09/26/president-trumps-first-term
^this thing right here is a wild read

phew. i survived that terrifying load time when you're afraid it's Andy Borowitz

trump demonstrates his idea of how journalism is supposed to work:

Donald Trump on Monday took credit for referring to an explosive device set off in Manhattan on Saturday night as a “bomb” before news outlets or law enforcement, saying “I called it.”

“I should be a newscaster because I called it before the news,” Trump said in a phone interview on “Fox and Friends. “What I said was exactly correct and everybody says while he was right, he called it too soon. Okay. Give me a break.”

from that New Yorker piece by Osnos:

For many years, Trump has expressed curiosity about nuclear weapons. In 1984, still in his thirties, he told the Washington Post that he wanted to negotiate nuclear treaties with the Soviets. “It would take an hour and a half to learn everything there is to learn about missiles,” he said. “I think I know most of it anyway.” According to Bruce G. Blair, a research scholar at the Program on Science and Global Security, at Princeton, Trump encountered a U.S. nuclear-arms negotiator at a reception in 1990 and offered advice on how to cut a “terrific” deal with a Soviet counterpart. Trump told him to arrive late, stand over the Soviet negotiator, stick his finger in his chest, and say, “Fuck you!”

Morbz, I had not yet seen that news yet this morning. Mea culpa.

What is this fantasy world his mind occupies? What do we do about terror? We beat it

u realize this absurd fantasy has been national status quo for at least 15 years

Presumably, the presidents of the last 15 years have issued instructions to the military more substantial than, "Just go beat 'em. Just, y'know...knock 'em on their asses or whatever. Go!"

His jingoism isn't a matter of dumbing it down for the public. He really is just that fucking dumb.

eh isnt 'blow it all up' US policy more often than not?

He is governed, above all, by his faith in the ultimate power of transaction—an encompassing perversion of realism that is less a preference for putting interests ahead of values than a belief that interests have no place for values.

I'm convinced this could be worded better. I'm going to come back and work on it later.

Recently, a former Republican White House official whom Trump has called on for his insights told me, “Honestly, the problem with Donald is he doesn’t know what he doesn’t know.”

=(

Somehow can't imagine Trump ever uttering any variant of, "Oh, I didn't know that."

(See the Scott Adams-esque “It would take an hour and a half to learn everything there is to learn about missiles" quote upthread.)

“I think I know most of it anyway.”

It's basically a bottle rocket made of metal. You light the thing and make sure it's pointing away from your face. What's to understand?

god you guys can be such dicks in this thread

What's there to know? People who look different gesture at us, we send them a rocket bang bam boom

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-19/stiglitz-grades-trump-f-on-economics-cites-china-trade-war-risk

'They’re bringing in many cases vicious cancer from within. This is something that’s going to be so tough. And you know they stay together so nobody really knows who it is, what’s happening. They’re plotting. This has been going on for so long everybody knows it,' Trump said.

the long-awaited pivot!!

“Our local police, they know who a lot of who this people are. They’re afraid to do anything about it because they don’t want to be accused of profiling, and they don’t want to be accused of all sorts of things. You know in Israel, they profile. They’ve done an unbelievable job, as good as you can do.”

http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-election-2016/1.742951

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GTRabASaY8

And to their credit actually, Fox & Friends keep pushing him to say what he'd actually propose to specifically do. He doesn't answer that directly beyond saying that profiling is a great thing that works elsewhere in the world.

Uh, not in support of anything they're saying by the way... just the basic idea of pushing him to clarify.

I will make discrimination on the basis of race legal, because as president I can totally do that. It will be fantastic.

Yuck OK sorry I gave them any credit at all I was only a minute or 2 in to that at the time

these hosts are just evil people

i'm now resigning myself to the fact hat Trump might, possibly, somehow win this, and hoping that they just impeach him within the first few months

Trump will not win this.

I think y'all are underestimating how badly he's gonna get blown out in the debate next week

Or, if by some crazy sequence of events Trump does win this, I thoroughly expect the hand of god to justifiably wipe humanity off the face of the earth so we won't actually have the chance to experience his presidency.

Donald Trump Doesn’t Understand Food

I don't think debates are gonna move the needle too much but they won't be good for him. As usual it's gonna be down to turnout, and the Dems give every indication that they are better prepared to handle turnout than the GOP/Trump campaign.

i'm not prepared to say that trump won't "win" (bc of diminished expectations) nor that clinton will not "lose" (because she coughs once.)

My mom weighed in today about the overarching stupidity of Gary Johnson and Jill Stein. She thinks Trump is 'just awful' but has a case of Clinton Derangement Syndrome so for the first time in her life, she's planning to blank her Prez vote and only vote for down-ticket races. Is this common?

Yeah, related to that, how much campaign coverage is the result of a sampling bias, in that a more accurate determinant of who wins various state contests has entirely to do with that state's GOTV apparatus, which media types can't see and aren't hex able to cover.

Plus I'm wonder if realizing that GOTV is far more important than say, policy stances, affecting turnout, which all goes against the popular received narrative of how we vote, why we decide how, etc.

And campaign journos seem lazy as fuck who don't want to head in that direction because no one else is.

Xp

Miller being all pissy about Hillary "basically accusing Trump of treason" is pretty lol

My mom weighed in today about the overarching stupidity of Gary Johnson and Jill Stein. She thinks Trump is 'just awful' but has a case of Clinton Derangement Syndrome so for the first time in her life, she's planning to blank her Prez vote and only vote for down-ticket races. Is this common?

― jane burkini (suzy)

I did it in 2008.

Trump is like Clooney in Burn After Reading, with a top secret basement project that turns out to be an insane dildo bike. "How will I fight terrorism? Oh, just you wait, I have a plan. I have a plan so good you won't believe!" And it turns out to be a dildo bike.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-ahmad-rahami-bemoans-hospital-lawyer

trump showing his in depth knowledge of the constitution again

Americans aren't generally into due process unless it's being applied to white people, tbf

“But the bad part, now we will give him amazing hospitalization. He will be taken care of by some of the best doctors in the world,” the GOP nominee told the crowd at a rally in Estero, Florida. “He will be given a fully modern and updated hospital room. And he'll probably even have room service knowing the way our country is.”

Convenient to leave out: "And if found guilty, he will likely spend the rest of his life in jail."

The guy is a citizen!
Room service? Wtf is he even talking about?