I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

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ah i get early '70s boybands confused

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link

many xps but damn loving the saltiness of Colbert in that video

Nhex, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 18:56 (seven years ago) link

that's the first time I've seen him look genuinely upset

frogbs, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link

If Trump paying off his legal bills with Charity money doesn't pop off as a story we are truly fucked

― flopson, Tuesday, September 20, 2016 12:04 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it hasn't and it won't

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, September 20, 2016 12:05 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I dunno, this seems blatantly illegal, so I hope you're wrong about this.

frogbs, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 19:10 (seven years ago) link

that's the first time I've seen him look genuinely upset

this was my reaction too, his facade seems to crack a bit

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 19:16 (seven years ago) link

if it kept production costs low (mostly talking heads sitting behind desks or in armchairs) then a trump cable channel could probably make a profit just fine

― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, September 20, 2016 12:56 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I wonder how much of the programming will be stuff like this, how much will be block reruns of The Apprentice, and how much will be The NEW Apprentice starring Ivanka or Scott Baio or somebody?

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 19:17 (seven years ago) link

Nobody cares about proven activity, that's not what excites people. Only conspiracies and hidden things to be uncovered slowly.

Evan, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 19:17 (seven years ago) link

xxp

Evan, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 19:17 (seven years ago) link

Is self-dealing a felony? I don't see how this is different from straight-up theft. That isn't his money.

jmm, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link

I really can't think of any other candidate this sort of revelation wouldn't immediately sink

frogbs, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 19:24 (seven years ago) link

a big majority of those people are going to drift away

Given the trend of things GOP, Trump supporters will probably spin off into an even more conservative, more radical sub-sub-set of the Tea Party. Because that's the why the GOP keeps losing the White House, right? They'll do some soul searching and decide it's because they weren't right wing enough, they were too beholden to special interests, too politically correct, etc.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 19:25 (seven years ago) link

man the polls have been all over the place this election

frogbs, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:01 (seven years ago) link

wtf @ that CNN poll

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:04 (seven years ago) link

could've sworn I was just looking at some other poll earlier today showing Trump ahead by a similar margin

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:04 (seven years ago) link

can't wait for this debate and simultaneously don't know if i'll be able to stand watching it

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:26 (seven years ago) link

Hillary down to 57% in 538's polls-plus model, despite some good polling for her today (????)

frogbs, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link

yeah i'm going to a yankee game that night just as a distraction, I don't even like the yankees. xp

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link

538 is so shook

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:30 (seven years ago) link

srsly, i cannot take witnessing the pollmania y'all are torturing yourself with, you're gonna end up like that reporter in Shock Corridor or Herbert Lom in the Clouseau movies.

i'd rather have my huevos waxed than watch those 'debates'

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link

y'know, I think I agree with you on that last point Morbz

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link

she's up the last few days at nyt and predictwise so who knows who to believe at this point

but 538 has her 85% to win NJ which sounds waaaaaaaay off to me

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

It's good polling compared to recent polls, but it was still lower than the last ones from same polling companies. It further proves that the race is tightening, though it also seems the tightening is plateauing. We'll see if the plateauing might be reversing soon.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

the race is tightening
the tightening is plateauing
the plateauing might be reversing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cJmpwkUx4s

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:35 (seven years ago) link

the only thing that should be on huevos is a dash of pepper and a dot of Tabasco

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:36 (seven years ago) link

here's a bunch of dumb data visualizations http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

marcos, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:37 (seven years ago) link

Have the debate dates/moderators/formats even been finalized or announced yet?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link

Trump's never been in this situation, I imagine his rambling is going to attain new levels

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link

The town meeting participants will be uncommitted voters selected by the Gallup Organization.

the worst part of every election is that we have to pretend these dumb people are important

marcos, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link

god that was mean-spirited sorry

marcos, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link

with no crowd participation he's just going to look like a fat deer in headlights xxp

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link

yeah and it's one-on-one, he can't just zone out for the boring parts

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:54 (seven years ago) link

xp yea i agree the audience silence won't be good, the republican primary debates had cheering audiences that worked in his favor

marcos, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link

i don't necessarily think clinton will "wipe the floor" w/ him and im sure he will get in a bunch of zingers that will be replayed endlessly but the format isn't great for him and yea like outic said trump has never been in a one-on-one debate

marcos, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

the race is tightening
the tightening is plateauing
the plateauing might be reversing
Rochelle, Rochelle!

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link

the race is tightening
the tightening is plateauing
the plateauing might be reversing
ATTICA, ATTICA, ATTICA, ATTICA

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link

the race is tightening
the tightening is plateauing
the plateauing might be reversing
free Sacco and Vanzetti!

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link

the race is tightening
the tightening is plateauing
the plateauing might be reversing
AMANDA

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link

i'm looking forward to pence being asked to defend trump for 90 minutes.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link

me too! i was gonna post that.

marcos, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link

:D xxp

the tightening is plateauing (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link

contrast of a happy & friendly kaine vs pence defending trump will be great

marcos, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link

the race is tightening
the tightening is plateauing
the plateauing might be reversing
and god is empty just like me.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link

I think Pence/Kaine will be even more boring than most VP debates. Clinton/Trump, I have no idea what to expect, but I think the first one will produce one or two of those moments that get replayed for years.

clemenza, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link

Hopefully it won't be something like, "I know Ted Cruz, Mr. Trump. I've worked with Ted Cruz--Ted Cruz is a friend of mine. And you, sir, are no Ted Cruz."

clemenza, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link

"Ted Cruz speaks in complete sentences"

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link

i'm just hoping the moderators have been scared enough by the Lauer situation that they don't softball him

akm, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link

Oh god that's the most encouraging thing to come from Lauer blowing it. I hope it motivates them as well.

Evan, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:36 (seven years ago) link

I think it will. Press is hypersensitive to the kind of criticism Lauer got, so the questioners should go hard on Trump.

clemenza, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 21:39 (seven years ago) link


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