I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

I'm thinking more about the sleazy, juicy stuff, not the, you know, actual scandals.

hillary letter is nice buuuuut.. same shit happened 8 years ago and aint nobody got prosecuted for that

I think you have to bring down Trump where he's vulnerable--whatever his perceived "strengths" are among the people ready to vote for him--and I personally don't think opposition research gets you there (outside of something like the story floating around about the 13-year-old--if proven, obviously that would kill his campaign). I'm just hard-pressed to think of any kind of revelation about his business dealings that's going to dissuade a Trump voter (or that he can't just deny or dodge long enough to get to the election).

The Russian hackers hacked and leaked the Trump oppo file, meaning Clinton and the DNC could never strategically use it.

cuz you know, the press is just so so unfair

which campaign?

Joe Schlabotnik

"He's worth 100 million", that would do it.

I am thinking I might vote for Hillary.

i'm thinking about it too

I think she's an incredibly weak candidate and not a very good pol either, but I am now becoming concerned that Naderizing the election could vault Trump into office.

doesnt Johnson draw at least as much "from" Trump? and Stein will get her usual 1%, mostly in solid blue states.

what state are you in, ddw?

as with Nader, people fail to consider that many protest voters would not vote for their preferred major-party candidate under any circumstances.

I'm in Atlanta. We are a city surrounded by the Confederacy and the state of Georgia.

I don't know how much Johnson would draw from Trump, but this is the worst election I've ever seen. Almost every conservative I know is in complete angst and hates both candidates but can't fathom the idea of Trump being president.

I don't even think "I dislike both candidates" is a viable viewpoint this election. Like it's totally understandable to not like Hillary but there is really no metric in which Trump is not 100x worse.

Almost every lefty I know is in complete angst and hates both candidates but can't fathom the idea of Trump being president.

As opposed to liberals of course

the crucial clarification, there it is

I suspect many lefties, Dems or liberals alike migggggght be more willing to cop to Hillary's faults after the election's over, but are just currently too shellshocked by the fact that Trump has yet to disappear up his own asshole

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-other-peoples-money-228434#ixzz4KpwV1YaL

Roger Stine predicting Michelle Obama will replace Hillary:
https://twitter.com/rogerjstonejr/status/778431837630767104

*Stone

i don't know how anyone can his (trump's not stone's) hairdo and seriously consider voting for him

*see his hairdo

Roger Stone describes himself as a "Libertarian conservative" and wears suspenders. I value his opinions accordingly.

i value his sweet ass

Stone's hair transplant is a lot better than Trump's, it's true

Yo I'm completely down with that

Xp

https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/778422101007077376

xpost That's why it seems plausible - it's like, great idea! Michelle vs. Trump: now there's a debate.

"Donald, why don't girls like you?"

"I'm going to talk fast because assume your wife is feverishly taking down notes..."

For about 15 seconds I was regretting my decision to go to every city council meeting because it means that I can't watch the first presidential debate, but then I was really happy that I decided to go to every city council meeting because that means I can't watch the first presidential debate.

i hope they address trump's habit of saying "i told you so" after each terrorist attack, as if hillary and obama deny that terrorism exists or something

just part one in a neverending series of why i despise trump but i happened to be annoyed by it today particularly

remember when we had to settle for "binders full of women" as an election-year meme

that might be an unintended positive for republicans in upcoming elections. compared to trump, everyone seems relatively reasonable. even within this election, john kasich was portrayed as the reasonable moderate despite being a total fucking asshole

All the Trump news at the moment seems to have gone back to being completely negative. Media seems especially angry. Hopefully that amounts to something.

Just saw a BMW SUV with a Carson sticker peel out, race around traffic on the shoulder, cut off someone in the right lane and get back into traffic in the left lane as the right lane continued to pass him. I don't know what this means. Just reports from the field. Those days are gone forever, I should just let them go but

― how's life, Friday, September 16, 2016 8:11 PM (four days ago)

yes

lol

I'm not worried about Trump so much as a GOP-controlled Senate and Congress behind Trump.

what was it that's shaken everyone's confidence in this thread from "don't worry she's got this" to "i am now v scared trump will win"; is it the polls? the pneumonia? the bombs in nyc and nj? the election drawing nearer? i am relying upon all y'alls optimism to carry me through these trying times

nah she's gonna win

Clinton's going to win. It's still freaking me out that it's even close, and that so many seem absolutely okay with having a racist lunatic running. Priebus out there threatening Kasich and Cruz with reprisals in 2020 if they don't back Trump right now. The media completely rolling over, Fallon sucking it up, CNN hiring Lewandowski while he was still on Trump's payroll, Clinton being attacked for saying the truth about racism amongst Trump's followers (I've heard the clip, it sounds bad, but still). There's a good chance that Trump is actually doing better than a 'generic republican' would be doing (Jeb! wouldn't be making inroads in Iowa, Maine and Ohio), and there's a good chance that he is being helped, not hurt, by catering to the white supremacist crowd. And that's scary for the future.

Cumulatively speaking, it's as though everything we've learned about politics has been upended and set on fire.

https://newrepublic.com/article/136928/dont-blame-millennials-scarily-close-election-blame-baby-boomers

lolz

what's shaken my confidence . . . the double-standards in how the press treats the two candidates are giving me deja vu of bush "beating" gore . . . my naive confidence that we'd never re-elect bush, not a chance, after not only the towers fell on his watch and we lost a wing of the pentagon on the same day but he lied us into iraq . . . the ascendant mania to re-establish feudalism / 'confederacy' exhibited by lots of americans who are now presented with a bigoted silver spoon "billionaire" they can project that onto . . . a couple other things. . . .

Article about baby boomers is relentlessly otm. Plenty of fine folk in that generation, but as a generation they have been an unbelievable scourge who bear full and total responsibility for all of the completely preventable social problems that ail our country, from out of control health and education costs to mass incarceration

Also they love television and Trump is a television star

they are the fucking worst