I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

I was just reminded today that Trump vowed to pull out of the Paris climate agreement which is pretty much the only chance we have to save this dumb planet we live on, in case you need another reason to vote against him

Maybe it's too much to ask but I really hope one of the debate moderators grill him on this. Properties that he owns are actively preparing for climate change yet he continues to claim it's all a hoax. There are just an insane number of levels on which this guy is a hypocrite.

I'm convinced that most of his hardcore supporters are basically attempting suicide-by-president. Anything to hasten the end is okay by them.

what's shaken my confidence . . . the double-standards in how the press treats the two candidates are giving me deja vu of bush "beating" gore

exactly - the media has mainstreamed Trump's message while the only thing most of the public knows about Clinton is that she might have done a bad thing with emails. yesterday I flipped CNN on and they gave equal time to the Trump Foundation allegations (incredibly immoral and probably a felony) and some old reddit post where someone was asked how to delete Clinton's email headers (which only proves how inept the State dept's IT staff is). this Trump Foundation thing is a huge deal and if Clinton pulled anything like this it would be the end of her campaign. I'm glad they're finally sacking up a bit but they still don't follow through a whole lot, letting Kellyanne Conway respond to basically every question with "hey why didn't you ask why the Clinton Foundation took money from the Saudis???" It's infuriating

And I don't think there's ever been this many conservatives actually donating to the other side of the fence (i.e. http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/296958-hedge-funders-pony-up-for-hillary-clinton-super-pac). Those kinds of conservatives do not like Clinton at all but they despise and are embarrassed by Trump.

I am sure they also realize that they will be less rich under president trump

and the mainstreaming of Trump's message does have awful social consequences - there is so much open racism and "Islam is a cancer" type posts on my FB that you just didn't see before. I'm embarrassed by my country.

xp burning down society isn't a great plan if your life is actually okay (or in the case of wealthy conservatives very very okay)

yeah, if journos are really worried about fair/equal coverage, doing anything at all with the actual contents of clinton's platform and policy proposals would be a good start.

the CEO of an influential journalism site is the CEO of one of the candidate's campaigns. you'd think there might be some outrage if not pushback from journalists who wouldn't go near breitbart if offered lifetime sinecures there, but i guess not. maybe journalism is as compromised by voodoo economic nepotism like every other prestige profession in america

can we not use "mainstreaming" as a word? I don't want to validate Chuck Todd.

doing anything at all with the actual contents of clinton's platform and policy proposals would be a good start.

well, today the NYT points out neither of their policies wd've stopped the NY/NJ bomber, so there's that

oh bleh Piers

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3798213/PIERS-MORGAN-doesn-t-matter-names-mainstream-media-call-Trump-says-exactly-Americans-think-especially-comes-Islamic-terror.html

That's a lot of one-sentence paragraphs.

#1 quality I do not want in a president of the United States: says what Americans are thinking

aside from "deport Lena Dunham"

morgan invokes godwin within four sentences - fast-paced even for the daily mail

I always wondered what the capstone on a pyramid of Daily Mail Brangelina stories would be.

Man, Daily Show dude at Trump rally, my god ...

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/e9z0ej/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-jordan-klepper-fingers-the-pulse---conspiracy-theories-thrive-at-a-donald-trump-rally

Dr Morbius, what are your views on ms Dunham?

I am interested as I have just been catching up with GIRLS seasons 2 & 3 (years late, I realize).

huh

Donald Trump says he doesn't know what a police officer was thinking when she shot an unarmed Tulsa man.

Trump said during an appearance Wednesday at a Cleveland Heights church that he is a "tremendous believer in the police and law and enforcement."

But he is questioning the actions of the police officer who shot and killed Terence Crutcher, who was unarmed when he was shot alongside his vehicle in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Trump said he's seen video of the incident, and that it looked like Crutcher had done everything right.

Trump said he is "very, very troubled" by the actions of the officer. He said: "People that choke, people that do that, maybe they can't be doing what they're doing."

Dr Morbius, what are your views on ms Dunham?

I am interested as I have just been catching up with GIRLS seasons 2 & 3 (years late, I realize).

― the pinefox, Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:49 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

please do this somewhere else

Days after he gets the Police union's vote. Hilarious.

xp obvs

xxp but see nobody, not the press, not the debate moderators, nobody will ask him to reconcile that statement with all his talk of letting police "get tough" and "crack heads" to clean up "our inner-city African-American neighborhoods." They'll just let him go on as if the two positions are not completely contradictory.

and people say he and Hill have nothing in common!

Fuck off.

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2016/09/who-will-reform-us-policing-by.html

Hillary needs to get off her ass during the debates and show passion and inhabit a personality that shows she can take down fucking bullies like Trump. Or Putin.

I feel like everyone not voting for Trump is waiting for her to show up to this election. Policy statements are mostly useless and voters know it.

Of possible interest: John Dickerson is on W Kamau Bell & Hari Khondulu's Politically Re-Active comedy/politics podcast talking about moderating presidential debates

http://traffic.megaphone.fm/FL8657864833.mp3?updated=1474438861

Re post election loss trump http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-trump-tv-20160916-snap-story.html

guess he'll just have to stick with the tried and true goldwater style direct mail/email fundraising grift

this Trump Foundation thing - who has grounds to sue over that? Is this something the Justice Department would pursue? Trump would obviously spin that as political persecution so idk how effective that would be, even if it is the proper legal thing to do

After decades of expansion, the cable business has matured and is on the verge of retracting. Younger viewers are content to get their video content through Internet streaming, causing slow but steady erosion in the number of cable and satellite customers. Cable and satellite operators are taking a harder line on paying fee increases for channels when contracts come up. The cable business is now finding ways to offer consumers the option to pay for fewer channels, not more.

Re: jumping into a very mature & crowded marketplace in an attempt to grab some of that money, this all strikes me like when Curt Schilling decided that his newly started gamedev company's first outing would be a fantasy MMO directly targeting and competing with World of Warcraft, even tho the market for such games(services, really, by that point) had dried up and a thousand corpses of failed attempts littered the road there.

So you'd have two Dunning-Krugered rightwing blowhards wanting to jump right in an expensive and resource-draining business with the biggest thing possible and taking on the biggest target there(and Curt taking $75M-ish in tax dollars, too).

this Trump Foundation thing - who has grounds to sue over that? Is this something the Justice Department would pursue? Trump would obviously spin that as political persecution so idk how effective that would be, even if it is the proper legal thing to do

Yeah normally when you break the law, it's the government that has standing to fuck your shit up as a result. Of course it has, and exercises, prosecutorial discretion (cue shrieks over Clinton emailghazi lawlessness). But the government is kinda there to do exactly this.

right but I specifically meant what branch of govt. Is this accusation a local, state or federal violation etc.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/its-still-clintons-race-to-lose-1474413142

apparently clinton hasn't visited a state other than oh, fl, pa and nc since august 25, which probably means they are confident about the math but also that campaiging works, hence slips in places like maine and nh

a personality that shows she can take down fucking bullies like Trump. Or Putin.

wtf are you talking about, don?

I have no idea what you mean by her showing the personality you seem to want her to act out. huffing and puffing? trash talking? doing some steely-eyed Clint Eastwood impressions? and while I'm at it, exactly what "taking down" Trump might look like is a real head scratcher. she bullies him back? puts him in a headlock? flips him off?

afaics, you are talking nonsense.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/22/us/politics/donald-trump-don-king-black-voters.html?_r=1

You're smarter than that Aimless. Really.

https://vine.co/v/55OnLO1O7tm

don king is a fucking nutjob, trump deserves him

You're smarter than that Aimless.

Now I know you're talking nonsense!

Clinton is now in her tenth year as a presidential candidate "defining herself."

In good news, according to Nate Silver the tightening might have stopped. Clinton apparently regained a point in combined polls this week. Which means it's still a toss-up, but it's not moving further in the wrong direction.

In bad news, NYT explains why people shouldn't say Trump is lying even when it's accurate to say he is lying. It seems partisan against racist scumbags, apparently, and we can't have that. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/20/public-editor/trump-birther-lie-liz-spayd-public-editor.html?_r=1

That said, I think The Times should use this term rarely. Its power in political warfare has so freighted the word that its mere appearance on news pages, however factually accurate, feels partisan. It feels, as Ryan said, as if you’re playing the referee in frivolous political disputes.

good headline https://www.theguardian.com/politics/1997/jun/21/uk.davidpallister

US journalists (especially the times) are the most priggish people on earth

"frivolous"

sad lol

xp

Now I know you're talking nonsense!

At very least you are smarter than me! Although, that sets a low bar which may offend you. I apologize for that.

Anyway, here's that video of Don King and his hair

https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/778602131024740352/video/1

if you cant call a blatant lie a blatant lie just give up any pretense of journalistic integrity and call yourself an 'entertainmentpaper'

the argument goes that a lie is intent, and that's hard to prove, and you should only say things you can prove outside the editorial section.

to me that seems like an alibi for what is basically fear of offending UES readers with language that would frighten the horses.

but i don't think it's a word that would change the election any more than "radical islamic terrorism" or whatever it is trump thinks it's important we say.

also the guardian example i posted is a bit unfair because it was published right after a famous libel trial collapsed because the guy was a proven liar in the eyes of the law.