I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

donald trump - even more unpopular than women

xp i dunno -- i think 'running for president' drives up most people's negatives

would watch http://www.vox.com/polyarchy/2016/9/21/13006732/presidential-debate-format-bad

isnt this from star trek

presidential-debate-format-bad

lol kobayashi maru

^^^

I'm down if they literally have to do the Kobayashi Maru.

I'd prefer something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2QAMqTgPKI

hey guys you're never going to believe this but... birth certificates don't record religion

What if you were born again?

I was a little startled when I was asked to list my religion for a visa to visit India. (I'm pretty sure this isn't even on Indian birth certificates, though.)

the Indian consulate asked you for that? that's weird I don't recall having to do that, but it was awhile ago...

Yes, this past summer. You don't even have to go through a consulate or High Commission/Embassy for short trips at this point. There's an online form. There's a question about religion with pull-down options for "Hindu", "Muslim", "Christian", "Buddhist", etc., as well as "other".

"Question: I am not comfortable disclosing my religion. What can I do?
Answer: You have the option to choose 'Others' and in the field below that, enter NA."

btw

But according to polls taken after the Sept. 11 stumble, the "Hillary's health" story line has done no political damage to speak of. Morning Consult, which polled immediately after the health scare, initially found that 50 percent of voters worried that Clinton had dissembled about her health, and the percentage of voters saying her health was below average or poor spiked by 19 points. But the number of voters who said the health scare would affect their votes was negligible; and on Sunday, MC released a full poll of the week after the scare, and found Clinton ticking up slightly in a head-to-head matchup, from a one-point lead to a four-point lead. The national Reuters/Ipsos tracking poll also found a "negligible" number of voters switching their votes because of the health story.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/19/clinton-health-scare-leaves-little-impact-on-polls-but-spawns-new-attacks/

I don't even understand the logic behind gambling on an "uh oh candidate X is sick, better vote for candidate Y!" reaction from voters.

"I was a little startled when I was asked to list my religion for a visa to visit India. "

I don't get visiting India and visas btw; someone I work with just told me she couldn't go back because she didn't have a visa to go. why do you need a visa to go there as opposed to travel to europe?

Kobayashi Maru is the scenario presented to the electorate ( = ultimate no-win scenario)

Indian birth certificates include both religion and caste.

Because India still has different personal laws for different religious people. Hindus, Muslims, Parsis and Christians all have different laws. And Atheists don't have a secular law to govern them. While we do have Special marriage Act for marriages among atheists or people belonging to different religions, we do not have other provisions relating to succession for Atheists. So, even if you are an Atheist, you will have to politically identify yourself as a person belonging to your birth or converted religion so that the state can apply the respective law to you. All this will end when we have a Uniform Civil Code.

Love the controversy about Don King's accidental use of the n word rather than the fact that he's a piece of shit murderer who took advantage of every athlete he ever "promoted."

Very similar person to Trump. Makes sense they are old friends

Given how fond some people are of wishing Kaine was the candidate instead of Hillary, you'd think the health issues would be a boon.

trump is a guy who takes limos everywhere and lives on a diet of KFC and mcdonald's, weird that hillary's the one w/ the "health issues"

who are these people?

xp

who are these people?

xp

Treeship
Posted: September 21, 2016 at 5:55:04 PM
Very similar person to Trump. Makes sense they are old friends

Heard an interview with Sharpton a few months ago in which he was asked to interpret Trump as a New Yorker. He said sorta like Don King. I hadn't thought of it til then, but yup.

45+ year old white guys who hate Trump but are voting for Gary Johnson because blah blah blah

Disgusting savages; list them ALL itt

trump is a guy who takes limos everywhere and lives on a diet of KFC and mcdonald's, weird that hillary's the one w/ the "health issues"

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, September 21, 2016

The diet of Trump's base.

Magary's piece in GQ was fun to read

yeah it got the blood up, that's for sure

Al Sharpton was an FBI informant and Republican spy, fuck that con man

http://theslot.jezebel.com/donald-trump-would-like-to-impose-new-yorks-most-racist-1786923383

It's encouraging to see that Catholics are not taking to Trump very well, though it seems that Evangelicals haven't yet woken up to the fact that Trump is not a typical values conservative, or maybe they just don't care.

http://religionandpolitics.org/2016/09/20/why-donald-trump-is-losing-catholic-voters/

don't care

They just want a conservative to replace Scalia. That's all that matters to them.

It's a good example of how the right, stupid as you might think they are, certainly knows how to prioritize and focus.

A fantastic read:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/donald-trump-florida-man/2294472

It's a good example of how the right, stupid as you might think they are, certainly knows how to prioritize and focus.

Excepting all those republican primary voters who made Trump their party's nominee.

Hey Alfred, kind of an obnoxiously unfair question but: how are you feeling about how FL's going to vote? I'm getting such mixed signals, but some of the signals (e.g., 538) suggest it's the swingiest of swing states in 2016. I'm seriously considering going down there for a week to pitch in with the Clinton GOTV efforts (I speak Spanish, which would come in handy in big chunks of Dade County, obv).

Alfred's said a few times on these threads that he is confident Trump has no chance, or words to that effect

i don't have any FL expertise but i do have other expertise + there are a number of indications that the jewish vote is going to break huge for hillary (see 538's expose today about the dire levels of financial support GOP is getting from Republican Jews as well as basically all recent polling) and florida is one of the few places that might actually make a difference

Sarah Silverman's Great Schlep in full effect, I see

Ha, that was my first thought too.

florida is a toss-up right now. that's all there is to be said about it

#neverforget

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo323/bubbanomics/obama911_zps2f28vglt.gif

Obama won Florida in '12 by, what, .05 or a point? It's possible that Clinton will lose Florida by the same margin if fewer blacks, Hispanics, and Jews vote. The possibility that once again pollsters are underrepresenting these groups in their results is high too.

Come down, collardio gelatinous!

re: florida margins and demographics, nobody knows anything

Dave Wasserman
‏@Redistrict
In '12, Obama won FL by 74k votes. Eligible Latinos who didn't vote: 725k. But eligible non-college whites who didn't vote? 2.5 *million.*

Adrian Gray
‏@adrian_gray Adrian Gray Retweeted Dave Wasserman
Since 2012, new Florida registrants:
White: +104,992
Latino: +242,005

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/21/trump-ads-are-running-next-to-isis-propaganda-campaign-unperturbed/

uhhh...awkward, dude