I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/21/trump-ads-are-running-next-to-isis-propaganda-campaign-unperturbed/

uhhh...awkward, dude

Algorithms otm

wow
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/22/trump-ohio-campaign-chair-no-racism-before-obama

Miller also dismissed the racial tensions of the 1960s, when she said she graduated from high school. “Growing up as a kid, there was no racism, believe me. We were just all kids going to school.”

what the fucking fuck?

"We were just all white kids going to an all-white school."

well if u never had to engage w a POC bc of the societal norms then you couldn't be racist toward them /s

i wonder about ohio sometimes, still seems like a tossup now, man fuck this state

in cleveland i see clinton signs everywhere, but have seen a trump sign here and there too. there is a major clinton campaign office up the street from me and it is bustling all the time

they are both here all the time

"believe me" <-- glad this is catching on as a valid substitution for evidence. yay

The reporter's face says it all.

xp marcos I haven't seen any Trump signs on the east side, but I have seen bumper stickers, mostly in the tonier suburbs (Orange, Beachwood, Pepper Pike, etc.). My neighborhood in Cle Hts is full of Hillary signs, though.

Conspicuously, the Orthodox Jews in my neighborhood -- who had no shortage of Romney/Ryan signs up in '12 -- have no signs up for any candidates.

"believe me" <-- glad this is catching on as a valid substitution for evidence. yay

It feels a little like the Republican Party has been hijacked by a legion of insane racist Narutos.

xp phil yea the only trump signs i've seen are in edgewater - just a couple

lakewood (where i live) has clinton signs everywhere, the campaign office on belle & detroit seems like a fun energetic place tbh

university circle (where i work) & surrounding neighborhood glenville has clinton signs everywhere too

Also re: that woman in eastern Ohio, she's coming from an area not too far from where a singing associate of mine grew up and looks to be about the same age. The woman I know has said similar things about her upbringing (in Youngstown iirc) about how everyone was just people and there weren't gigantic divisions between black and white people (she's white and most of her siblings' in-laws are black) but, unlike the Trump monster in that Guardian article, her experiences made her much more sensitive to racial issues/disparity and turned her into a raging liberal crusader. So, I don't actually disbelieve the Trump monster when she says "when I grew up, there were no differences" but the way she reacted to that experience tells me a lot about her character, which is why I keep referring to her as "Trump monster".

maybe where she grew up it was like that but wasnt the civil rights movement in the 60's? what the fuck was she seeing on the news, a goddamn tv drama?

This is kind of the crux of the issue, isn't it? The blinding myopia that allows you to translate the details of your immediate surroundings into an unassailable, universal truth?

And even if she was seeing tv drama on the news in the 60s, surely she will have heard of the civil rights movement after that. She just chooses not to hear/believe it. Stubbornly blind.

And unashamedly racist.

How can a thing exist if you yourself have not experienced it? The very idea.

Former RNC Chair: Trump's Birtherism is 'Bullshit Racism' http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/former-rnc-chairman-michael-steele-trump-birtherism-bullshit-racism

"You cannot say to me that given the 400 plus years of this country, that at the very moment the country decides to elect the first Black man president of the United States, you going to ask for his papers? Seriously? Seriously?" said Steele. "I can go all day long about what's wrong with Syria and economic policy and foreign policy with this administration. But I'll be damned if I'm going to sit here and say 'You need to show me your papers first.' That's not how this works."

steele otm there though of course later he goes on some bullshit about reagan

this is partly why Steele was fired.

Tru fact: Some time in 2006 or so, my wife and I were eating brunch at the Treaty of Paris in Annapolis. There was one other occupied table in the room and it was occupied by Michael Steele, who was in a garrulous mood. I don't know who he was talking to - a reporter or job applicant or sycophant or what - but I could not help eavesdropping.

He spoke of how he was in a seminary preparing for the priesthood when Ronald Reagan was shot. A few weeks later, the Pope was shot. "They're trying to assassinate my religious AND political heroes," he said. That's what led him to abandon the seminary and opt for public service instead.

I don't know whether he believed this tidy narrative or whether he'd repeated it a hundred times before and a hundred times after. Now he's on Morning Joe all the time and suchlike. A person like that, with a crafted persona? Who knows what the thinks or believes apart from what he calculates at any given moment?

But that brunch is etched in my memory.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/b2fc974d1d/between-two-ferns-with-zach-galifianakis-hillary-clinton?

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/b2fc974d1d/between-two-ferns-with-zach-galifianakis-hillary-clinton?_cc=__d___&_ccid=217c7650-7d41-490e-acf5-e5f3de97cb74

This is excrutiatingly unfunny.

Xp :)

xp That's an odd 'or', if you don't mind me saying - he could believe it and also repeat it a lot?

that was v funny + she really is unflappable. if she can handle galifianakis i feel much better about how she'll handle trump.

That was funny to you? Diff strokes I guess...

xp i think the unspoken bit is "or he repeated it so much he had come to believe it"

I don't remember any racism from the 1960s*, all those major black activists who were assassinated, like mlk and Malcolm x and all those protests were just cos of petty disturbances or something, right?

*most probably cos I was born in the late eighties.

#woke

A. Farrell: Fair point. Certainly he could both believe a narrative and also repeat it.

(In my defense the "or" it is accurate as far as my own knowledge is concerned; there are a lot of things I don't know. I don't know X or Y or Z; I don't know X and Y and Z. Grammatically speaking either conjunction fits.)

I watched Hillary's Between the Ferns and then immediately went back and rewatched Obama's. As with so many other things of this sort, she doesn't come off well in comparison (all the caveats of how Trump would doubtlessly fare far far worse and how this is far removed from being the kind of thing that suggests who's going to be a good president of course apply).

its like if Space Ghost got fat and grew a beard and lost his sense of humor

Some analysts credit the president's March 2014 appearance on Between Two Ferns with helping boost enrollment in Obamacare right when his administration needed it the most.

re: the civil rights movement, I get the impression a lot of people look at it as this moment where it was universally recognized that segregation was bad and MLK was a big hero and everything changed and now it's all better. People seem to miss or forget the fact that it was extremely contentious for huge parts of the country and an extremely hard fought battle to just move things forward a bit. And of course, all the negativity and opposition we see today facing BLM is very similar to many of things civil rights leaders dealt with in the 60s.

White people in Boston rioted over busing almost into the Carter administration. But we don't teach that in schools, so yeah, people think it all just went away after the early 60s.

BTW that woman above has already resigned: https://twitter.com/CandaceSmith_/status/778987696563875840

FWIW my kids did learn about the protests for desegregation in Boston public school busing.

the Mississippi public school had to be "re-desegregated" in 1988.

*my

I learned how my county (Arlington, VA) had its home rule school board revoked by the state after it became the first in VA to implement Brown v Board

Painful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EyoKB3ZHSc

cos you are a shitty candidate

it's like she needs a cane to wave as a prop or some shit

the West Wing cast is campaigning for her in Ohio this weekend

not anywhere near the Clue Train

haha man that's terrible. that's not an ad though - what is it?

dude wtf the Between Two Ferns with Hillary was awesome

"Do Chelsea and Ivanka ever talk on the phone about boys who might like them....like her Dad"

xpost

Published on Sep 22, 2016
Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton spoke about foe Donald Trump during a video conference of the Laborers' International Union of North America, saying, "Why aren’t I 50 points ahead?"

yikes at that video wow

"...a gathering in Las Vegas of the Laborers' International Union of North America."

I think I like her most when her guard drops and the rage comes through.

Ha, xposts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7QP9Zqge4s

tbf righteous indignation is kinda the MO of speakers at union gatherings

she's not particularly good at it though. Richard Trumka she is not.