I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

this is partly why Steele was fired.

Tru fact: Some time in 2006 or so, my wife and I were eating brunch at the Treaty of Paris in Annapolis. There was one other occupied table in the room and it was occupied by Michael Steele, who was in a garrulous mood. I don't know who he was talking to - a reporter or job applicant or sycophant or what - but I could not help eavesdropping.

He spoke of how he was in a seminary preparing for the priesthood when Ronald Reagan was shot. A few weeks later, the Pope was shot. "They're trying to assassinate my religious AND political heroes," he said. That's what led him to abandon the seminary and opt for public service instead.

I don't know whether he believed this tidy narrative or whether he'd repeated it a hundred times before and a hundred times after. Now he's on Morning Joe all the time and suchlike. A person like that, with a crafted persona? Who knows what the thinks or believes apart from what he calculates at any given moment?

But that brunch is etched in my memory.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/b2fc974d1d/between-two-ferns-with-zach-galifianakis-hillary-clinton?

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/b2fc974d1d/between-two-ferns-with-zach-galifianakis-hillary-clinton?_cc=__d___&_ccid=217c7650-7d41-490e-acf5-e5f3de97cb74

This is excrutiatingly unfunny.

Xp :)

xp That's an odd 'or', if you don't mind me saying - he could believe it and also repeat it a lot?

that was v funny + she really is unflappable. if she can handle galifianakis i feel much better about how she'll handle trump.

That was funny to you? Diff strokes I guess...

xp i think the unspoken bit is "or he repeated it so much he had come to believe it"

I don't remember any racism from the 1960s*, all those major black activists who were assassinated, like mlk and Malcolm x and all those protests were just cos of petty disturbances or something, right?

*most probably cos I was born in the late eighties.

#woke

A. Farrell: Fair point. Certainly he could both believe a narrative and also repeat it.

(In my defense the "or" it is accurate as far as my own knowledge is concerned; there are a lot of things I don't know. I don't know X or Y or Z; I don't know X and Y and Z. Grammatically speaking either conjunction fits.)

I watched Hillary's Between the Ferns and then immediately went back and rewatched Obama's. As with so many other things of this sort, she doesn't come off well in comparison (all the caveats of how Trump would doubtlessly fare far far worse and how this is far removed from being the kind of thing that suggests who's going to be a good president of course apply).

its like if Space Ghost got fat and grew a beard and lost his sense of humor

Some analysts credit the president's March 2014 appearance on Between Two Ferns with helping boost enrollment in Obamacare right when his administration needed it the most.

re: the civil rights movement, I get the impression a lot of people look at it as this moment where it was universally recognized that segregation was bad and MLK was a big hero and everything changed and now it's all better. People seem to miss or forget the fact that it was extremely contentious for huge parts of the country and an extremely hard fought battle to just move things forward a bit. And of course, all the negativity and opposition we see today facing BLM is very similar to many of things civil rights leaders dealt with in the 60s.

White people in Boston rioted over busing almost into the Carter administration. But we don't teach that in schools, so yeah, people think it all just went away after the early 60s.

BTW that woman above has already resigned: https://twitter.com/CandaceSmith_/status/778987696563875840

FWIW my kids did learn about the protests for desegregation in Boston public school busing.

the Mississippi public school had to be "re-desegregated" in 1988.

*my

I learned how my county (Arlington, VA) had its home rule school board revoked by the state after it became the first in VA to implement Brown v Board

Painful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EyoKB3ZHSc

cos you are a shitty candidate

it's like she needs a cane to wave as a prop or some shit

the West Wing cast is campaigning for her in Ohio this weekend

not anywhere near the Clue Train

haha man that's terrible. that's not an ad though - what is it?

dude wtf the Between Two Ferns with Hillary was awesome

"Do Chelsea and Ivanka ever talk on the phone about boys who might like them....like her Dad"

xpost

Published on Sep 22, 2016
Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton spoke about foe Donald Trump during a video conference of the Laborers' International Union of North America, saying, "Why aren’t I 50 points ahead?"

yikes at that video wow

"...a gathering in Las Vegas of the Laborers' International Union of North America."

I think I like her most when her guard drops and the rage comes through.

Ha, xposts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7QP9Zqge4s

tbf righteous indignation is kinda the MO of speakers at union gatherings

she's not particularly good at it though. Richard Trumka she is not.

am not linking to the NY Mag column that sez if Clinton loses, it's Sanders' fault. Of course!

wtf at that video

actually Morbz it'll be your fault

I think I like her most when her guard drops and the rage comes through.

she's not as good at this as say Elizabeth Warren but yeah a little energy is nice

"why aren't I ahead by 50 points" is a pretty legit question tbf

historians will review all of your valiant posts decrying her monstrosity and nod their heads, stroke their beards and say "yes, yes THIS was the turning point"

xp

btw I love how roundly the "I should be 50 points ahead" remark is being mocked by supporters of the candidate who said "I will get 95% of the African American vote"

no dude its that he will get 95% after his first term

believe me

"why aren't I ahead by 50 points"

bcz you're 8-16 years past your sell-by date, and people hate you.

also your most trenchant selling point is "I'm not the other guy"

but Clintons are eternal.

also your most trenchant selling point is "I'm not the other guy"

to be fair it's the only selling point she should need at this point

but yea this election is an indictment of both major parties

No it is not.

Raiders of the National Dysfunction

so does this reddit email deletion things have legs or nah? i can't tell if it's legit or not but if it is it...kinda is bad, right?

Hillary's righteousness stinks of such bullshit. She does not wear it well. She does wear wisdom and experience well, and works best when she is not over compensating (shouting) and trying to shove it down our throats. She's so defensive it's like she's constantly trying to be better than the other guy, when all she has to do is try to act like herself, because she *is* better than the other guy. Less of this topping Trump with policy, or numbers, or toughness. Trump is not about specifics. She just needs to stress repeatedly that he is a total shithead and disaster and hammer again and again at his failings as a businessman and as a human being.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2016/09/22/hillary_clinton_wants_to_raise_the_estate_tax_even_higher_than_bernie_did.html

ugh she's such a republican

so not gonna happen