I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

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"...a gathering in Las Vegas of the Laborers' International Union of North America."

I think I like her most when her guard drops and the rage comes through.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:15 (seven years ago) link

Ha, xposts

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:15 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7QP9Zqge4s

nomar, Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:17 (seven years ago) link

tbf righteous indignation is kinda the MO of speakers at union gatherings

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:19 (seven years ago) link

she's not particularly good at it though. Richard Trumka she is not.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link

am not linking to the NY Mag column that sez if Clinton loses, it's Sanders' fault. Of course!

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link

wtf at that video

frogbs, Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:22 (seven years ago) link

actually Morbz it'll be your fault

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:23 (seven years ago) link

I think I like her most when her guard drops and the rage comes through.

she's not as good at this as say Elizabeth Warren but yeah a little energy is nice

"why aren't I ahead by 50 points" is a pretty legit question tbf

frogbs, Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:23 (seven years ago) link

historians will review all of your valiant posts decrying her monstrosity and nod their heads, stroke their beards and say "yes, yes THIS was the turning point"

xp

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:24 (seven years ago) link

btw I love how roundly the "I should be 50 points ahead" remark is being mocked by supporters of the candidate who said "I will get 95% of the African American vote"

frogbs, Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:31 (seven years ago) link

no dude its that he will get 95% after his first term

believe me

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:35 (seven years ago) link

"why aren't I ahead by 50 points"

bcz you're 8-16 years past your sell-by date, and people hate you.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link

also your most trenchant selling point is "I'm not the other guy"

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link

but Clintons are eternal.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link

also your most trenchant selling point is "I'm not the other guy"

to be fair it's the only selling point she should need at this point

frogbs, Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:42 (seven years ago) link

but yea this election is an indictment of both major parties

frogbs, Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link

No it is not.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:58 (seven years ago) link

Raiders of the National Dysfunction

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 September 2016 19:59 (seven years ago) link

so does this reddit email deletion things have legs or nah? i can't tell if it's legit or not but if it is it...kinda is bad, right?

have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Thursday, 22 September 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link

Hillary's righteousness stinks of such bullshit. She does not wear it well. She does wear wisdom and experience well, and works best when she is not over compensating (shouting) and trying to shove it down our throats. She's so defensive it's like she's constantly trying to be better than the other guy, when all she has to do is try to act like herself, because she *is* better than the other guy. Less of this topping Trump with policy, or numbers, or toughness. Trump is not about specifics. She just needs to stress repeatedly that he is a total shithead and disaster and hammer again and again at his failings as a businessman and as a human being.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 September 2016 20:59 (seven years ago) link

so not gonna happen

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 September 2016 21:32 (seven years ago) link

Why not just say "I want to make sure Donald Trump's tax rate is at least x% ?" Because that puts him on defense, and brings up his taxes, and brings up his wealth, and brings up his gaming the system, *and* introduces her tax policy.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 September 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/that-idiot-on-your-hunting-message-board-might-be-donal-1786882492

One of the more amusing bits of modernity is the chance that dumb rich folks use message boards like everybody else, so you might just encounter someone like Hijo de Trump on your gun fetishist board.

(rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Thursday, 22 September 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link

this election is an indictment of both major parties

For the past decade, Dems should have been cultivating younger leaders for the national spotlight, as it did with Obama. It would have benefited the future party to have some serious contenders for the nomination who weren't AARP members.

gesticulating Pez dispenser (Sanpaku), Thursday, 22 September 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link

I assume they needed a few more years to ripen.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 September 2016 22:10 (seven years ago) link

she's not as good at this as say Elizabeth Warren but yeah a little energy is nice

Hillary's righteousness stinks of such bullshit. She does not wear it well. She does wear wisdom and experience well, and works best when she is not over compensating (shouting) and trying to shove it down our throats

There's an egocentric hateful quality to HRC's rage that I sometimes feel like she is struggling to keep contained. I find it sort of beautiful in its rawness and intensity when it comes out.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 22 September 2016 22:19 (seven years ago) link

also nobody who pays full price for a movie ticket, excepting martin o'malley, wanted to run this year just to lose to clinton xp

Clay, Thursday, 22 September 2016 22:21 (seven years ago) link

that video seems like.. totally par for the course! what are you guys reacting to here? it's obv that "why aren't i 50 points ahead" is self-deprecating and rhetorical and meant to lead on to the answer, which is that "we" haven't shined enough of a spotlight on trump's record. isn't it?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 September 2016 22:26 (seven years ago) link

all she has to do is try to act like herself

Getting very 'after-school special' in this thread.

two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Thursday, 22 September 2016 22:27 (seven years ago) link

Well, if it's not raw rage and hatred bursting through, it's pretty awful as political rhetoric. I prefer to believe the former.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 22 September 2016 22:28 (seven years ago) link

XP Well, her opponent is a few steps away from flying out a window high on PCP.

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 September 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link

AP poll came out late tonight, 6 point lead for Hillary. I feel like, just like last week, state polls trailing national a little and that we'll see some of these battlegrounds break back her way.

btw there is a great horrible Harry Enten article you don't need to read on FiveThirtyBait

Neanderthal, Thursday, 22 September 2016 23:56 (seven years ago) link

so does this reddit email deletion things have legs or nah? i can't tell if it's legit or not but if it is it...kinda is bad, right?

― have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Thursday, September 22, 2016 4:58 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hmm.....granted The Hill published it and the Repub House is the one driving it but, does not sound good at all

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/22/house-panel-tells-reddit-to-preserve-deleted-posts-in-clinton-case.html

Neanderthal, Friday, 23 September 2016 00:03 (seven years ago) link

we should leave climate change to the states.

states should have the right to decide whether they are over or underwater

Neanderthal, Friday, 23 September 2016 00:05 (seven years ago) link

congress is after that pagliani guy hard as fuck. they tried to have him come in and plead the fifth for the cameras and he refused.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 23 September 2016 00:19 (seven years ago) link

I definitely think the electorate wants to hear more about emails

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Friday, 23 September 2016 00:36 (seven years ago) link

my Mississippi public school had to be "re-desegregated" in 1988.

yeah the durham, nc city schools were desegregated in the late 60s, causing the white folk to move to the county schools. when they merged in the mid 90s it had to be done all over again. haven't followed it since then, but given mccrory and the legislature it'll probably be necessary again soon.

i'm continually struck by how motherfuckers who 'hate political correctness' have internalized that the *word* 'racist' is bad and to be avoided or only used to accuse other ppl. if you're bold enough to go on about how these thugs are drug-crazed criminals with obama phones, why balk at the r-word?

mookieproof, Friday, 23 September 2016 00:41 (seven years ago) link

also hey look, it's policy: http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/hillary-clinton-policy-agenda

mookieproof, Friday, 23 September 2016 00:43 (seven years ago) link

the reddit story really just points to 'in the matter of email security Clinton was not receiving competent advice', it's not really adding anything

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Friday, 23 September 2016 01:20 (seven years ago) link

that was a 22 year old on the cover of that issue? figured that dude was 12

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Friday, 23 September 2016 01:32 (seven years ago) link

figured he was dead

Neanderthal, Friday, 23 September 2016 01:33 (seven years ago) link

I somehow missed that FB bought that stupid company for two fucking billion dollars.

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Friday, 23 September 2016 01:42 (seven years ago) link

Lmao

NBC/WSJ poll, candidate favorability among undecided in two-way race: Clinton 13% positive, 64% negative; Trump 5% positive, 81% negative

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 23 September 2016 01:53 (seven years ago) link

the debate really is going to go "lol i'm not u, i win" eh

Neanderthal, Friday, 23 September 2016 01:56 (seven years ago) link

I want to know what percent of people are positive about both candidates.

jmm, Friday, 23 September 2016 01:58 (seven years ago) link

"I am 75% positive that HIllary is a candidate"

Neanderthal, Friday, 23 September 2016 02:01 (seven years ago) link


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