I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

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Can't wait for the first presidential candidate who shows up onstage wearing a red white + blue crocheted dick cozy and challenges his opponent's patriotism because he (or she, tbf) isn't likewise wearing a red white + blue crocheted dick cozy because naturally that's been an indicator of one's patriotism since time immemorial or maybe since five minutes before the debate when a dude spontaneously decided to put on a red white + blue dick cozy and make a thing that had never been a thing into a thing and pretend it had always been a thing.

Suddenly...Soup! (Old Lunch), Friday, 23 September 2016 19:58 (seven years ago) link

maybe trump agreed Cruz could have Eowyn to do with as he pleases once Trump takes Rohan.

xpost

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Friday, 23 September 2016 19:58 (seven years ago) link

Theory: Trump will never have the chance to prove he can't deliver on any of his promises, so he will never bear any blame for making them. Since those promises (build the wall and make Mexico pay, kill family members of ISIS fighters) are wildly popular in the GOP base Cruz wants to woo, he's coming around to think Trump will still be very popular with the base even after he loses the election. Endorsing Trump now might allow Cruz to continue to play his national ambitions.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 23 September 2016 20:05 (seven years ago) link

If Clinton wins, we know — with 100% certainty — that she would deliver on her left-wing promises, with devastating results for our country.

oh tedpaws

the devastation is very important to me (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 September 2016 20:05 (seven years ago) link

I think Cruz was being threatened by Reince/RNC and he's up for re-election in 2018 iirc.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 23 September 2016 20:11 (seven years ago) link

oh my goodness look: an article about policy!

http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/hillary-clinton-policy-agenda/

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 September 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link

uh I didn't know this but is anyone surprised?

n early September, the Washington Post reported that Trump’s policy advisers had quit en masse because not only had the campaign failed to pay them, but he had also made it clear he wouldn’t be requiring their services to prepare for the presidential debates.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 September 2016 20:18 (seven years ago) link

"Wouldn’t it be fun if your country’s political future was an abstract, somewhat irrelevant little game to briefly ponder in between million dollar paychecks?"

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 23 September 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link

Hillary Clinton's campaign is getting a jump on fact-checking Donald Trump's debate performance.

On a conference call with reporters Friday, Clinton communications director Jennifer Palmieri laid out what they are calling Trump's "seven deadly lies." Palmieri said there should be heightened scrutiny at the first general election debate Monday because "his level of lying is unprecedented in American politics."

The first item on the list is Trump's false statement that he opposed the war in Iraq. Palmieri said that letting false statements go unquestioned would give Trump an "unfair advantage." She said the campaign expects the debate moderator to "call out those lies and to do so in real time."

Palmieri declined to say who is playing Trump in their debate preparations.

looking forward to Hillary's "You supported the Iraq War just like I did" angle *rmde*

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 September 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link

I'll take any opportunity to resurrect this Tweet: https://twitter.com/jillbidenveep/status/756315385075466240

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 23 September 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/moderator-first-presidential-debate-just-204610290.html

The three topics to be discussed during the debate, held at Hofstra University in New York, will be "America's Direction," "Achieving Prosperity," and "Securing America," per a release from the Commission on Presidential Debates.

(rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Friday, 23 September 2016 21:32 (seven years ago) link

gee, I'm kind of bummed that "keeping regular" isn't included there

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 23 September 2016 21:38 (seven years ago) link

I think America should head west on Route 66

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 September 2016 21:40 (seven years ago) link

america: great country or greatest country?

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 23 September 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link

america: great country or greatest country?

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 September 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link

no - two continents

Mordy, Friday, 23 September 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link

Doug Henwood, in his book, on why "Hillary is not The Problem."

https://twitter.com/leducviolet/status/779355983793446912

― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Friday, September 23, 2016 7:45 PM (one hour ago)

"hillary is not the problem," says the guy who wrote a book with a picture of hillary aiming a gun at the reader on the cover

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 23 September 2016 21:52 (seven years ago) link

from that paragraph he apparently thinks the problem is that our system is not responsive enough to populism

Mordy, Friday, 23 September 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link

he's right on that point

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 September 2016 21:56 (seven years ago) link

tbf the white plutocrats who founded our country's fear of being strung up by a mob was more or less justified

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 September 2016 21:57 (seven years ago) link

i can see it both ways. obv you want the gov to be more responsive to the needs of the populace but i tend to think checks against demagoguery + nativist forms of populism are a feature not a bug

Mordy, Friday, 23 September 2016 21:57 (seven years ago) link

in the case of our country they've been a highly detrimental feature - giving us slavery, the civil war, the Gilded Age, the Great Depression, delaying our entry into WWII, defeat of Civil Rights legislation for 100+ years, hampered our response to climate change, etc etc

fucking Senate

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 September 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link

The three topics to be discussed during the debate, held at Hofstra University in New York, will be "America's Direction," "Achieving Prosperity," and "Securing America," per a release from the Commission on Presidential Debates.

i just wish the three topics could be a little more broad

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Friday, 23 September 2016 22:04 (seven years ago) link

you're right and sadly when the authoritarian came knocking it's hard to believe they'll ultimately serve as any kind of check at all xp

Mordy, Friday, 23 September 2016 22:05 (seven years ago) link

wtf "Achieving Prosperity" doesn't have "America" in the title

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 23 September 2016 22:13 (seven years ago) link

i keep seeing trump commercial on youtube and nowhere else. and only trump commercials on youtube and no other political commercials.

Mordy, Friday, 23 September 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link

I think the first Trump commercial I experienced was during "Between Two Ferns."

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 23 September 2016 22:21 (seven years ago) link

You know the one.

Has anyone taken that ad and swapped the sound out for hardcore gangsta rap?

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 23 September 2016 22:22 (seven years ago) link

are youtube commercials targeted? you might have painted a target on your own back, mordy

j., Friday, 23 September 2016 22:36 (seven years ago) link

thought maybe trump campaign heavily invested in youtube views bc they're primarily appealing to degenerate internet types (redditors and 4channers)

Mordy, Friday, 23 September 2016 22:50 (seven years ago) link

they're idiots then, redditors and 4channers use adblockers!!

j., Friday, 23 September 2016 23:06 (seven years ago) link

do adblockers work on youtube videos?

Mordy, Friday, 23 September 2016 23:06 (seven years ago) link

only nukes do

Neanderthal, Friday, 23 September 2016 23:07 (seven years ago) link

i've got some thingy that does, youtube-specific

sgreat

j., Friday, 23 September 2016 23:26 (seven years ago) link

Having heard your complaints, Trump acts!

https://twitter.com/MajorCBS/status/779461649312940032

Or something.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 September 2016 23:27 (seven years ago) link

all bought at the last minute! thats shrewd business acumen right there.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 23 September 2016 23:29 (seven years ago) link

"I believe that there's a price being paid for not addressing the real cost of the deindustrialization and globalization that has occurred in the United States for the past 35, 40 years and how it’s deeply affected people's lives and deeply hurt people to where they want someone who says they have a solution. And Trump's thing is simple answers to very complex problems. Fallacious answers to very complex problems. And that can be very appealing."

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bruce-springsteen-calls-donald-trump-a-moron-w441761

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 23 September 2016 23:35 (seven years ago) link

The Boss OTM

Frobisher, Saturday, 24 September 2016 00:34 (seven years ago) link

i can see it both ways. obv you want the gov to be more responsive to the needs of the populace but i tend to think checks against demagoguery + nativist forms of populism are a feature not a bug

― Mordy, Friday, September 23, 2016

look how well populism works in California!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 September 2016 00:39 (seven years ago) link

As for ads in Florida: Clinton's been inundating the airwaves since July at least. I see five Clinton ads for every Trump.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 September 2016 00:40 (seven years ago) link

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a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 24 September 2016 01:14 (seven years ago) link

Alfred if yr referring to our vaunted ballot propositions... it does have its drawbacks (prop 13 *cough*). In general i think its great tho, as a system.

Οὖτις, Saturday, 24 September 2016 01:16 (seven years ago) link

Brooks heartfelt loathing for Trump is making him a lot more relatable of late:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/23/opinion/the-clinton-calendar.html

o. nate, Saturday, 24 September 2016 01:30 (seven years ago) link

Donald Trump is egregious, but at least he’s living in the 21st century

Clintonworld operates according to its own time-space continuum that is slightly akilter from our own

But she is disengaged

nah this is the same old bullshit

mookieproof, Saturday, 24 September 2016 01:38 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I'm not sure about his criticisms of Clinton, but his jabs at Trump are nicely done. It was fun watching him on the PBS panel at the conventions for that reason.

o. nate, Saturday, 24 September 2016 01:43 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHGPbl-werw

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 24 September 2016 01:46 (seven years ago) link

good ad. wouldn't use that music though, makes it seem too much like a dove natural beauty ad.
"Choose Hillary, sponsored by Dove... 'I'm Unilever and I approve this commercial'"

Frobisher, Saturday, 24 September 2016 01:54 (seven years ago) link

feels like the HRC campaign is preaching to the choir. like how many women who believe in body positivity etc. are still rooting for DJT at this stage.

Sharkie, Saturday, 24 September 2016 02:20 (seven years ago) link

i think she is just trying to shame moderate republicans

Treeship, Saturday, 24 September 2016 02:28 (seven years ago) link


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