I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

^^^this dude has a poster of an elephant mounting a donkey in his dorm room

he looks like Cynthia Ozick

lol

gonna be v. mad if alfred votes for cade marsh in 2032

marsh is what Florida will be in 2032

omg what is obama's pseudonym
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-228607#ixzz4L8aUhF1F

Great, so apparently neither candidate even knows how to use a computer.

Enh; this isn't necessarily a surprise to anyone who's had to provide IT support to their parents.

Trump is using a Tandy 1000 TX

My mom is just about Clinton's age and totally knows how to use her computer. My mother in law does programming for the government (she taught herself to code in the mid '80s!) and is always complaining about their computer incompetence.

In their defense (which is not much of a defense) I bet Clinton's and Trump's ignorance stems largely from decades of paying other people to do things for them. I wonder if they even know how to drive cars anymore.

time to give em the Poppy Bush checkout scanner test

there's that story about Eisenhower learning how to use the phone in the early sixties. As prez and Supreme Commander he was used to picking it up and ordering an operator to make a connection.

"First dial 1, Mr President."

"Swipe left, Mr. President"

I bet Trump totally thinks nukes can be set off by using the Nuke app on the White House phone.

oh look another bet hedging article from Silver: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-the-case-for-and-against-democratic-panic/

say what you will about Sam Wang, he isn't afraid to make an erroneous prediction (see 2004)

should election forecasters just make a prediction regardless of what the data tells them?

NYT endorses clinton
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/25/opinion/sunday/hillary-clinton-for-president.html

i kind of assumed they had already endorsed her last year

no, just over Sanders in the spring

can't believe NYT is being so insensitive to the quiddities and agonies of the Donald

this proves it's rigged!

stay classy you bag of shit

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 32m32 minutes ago
If dopey Mark Cuban of failed Benefactor fame wants to sit in the front row, perhaps I will put Gennifer Flowers right alongside of him!

Is Trump saying he fucked Mark Cuban there?

Ivanka raped Mark Cuban iirc

Gary Johnson going for the lizard vote now, apparently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vQcQowRg8s

Buzzfeed is reporting Flowers has agreed.

i'm not sure why trump thinks that would work, both against clinton and with the public. he's not debating Bill.

really locking up the asshole vote

I'm fully for stuntcasting/attempted psyops with stuffing the front row of debates, just to see who Trump would pick as a obviously genius idea.

In Trump's mind, Gennifer Flowers is Hillary's natural rival, because that's what he thinks women think about. That's why that makes sense.

this is shaping up like an SNL sketch.

I have a question: has anyone ever sued over something said in a presidential debate? Can they? If Clinton accuses Trump of corruption (or vice versa) or if she said something like 'I wouldn't invest in one of his companies, never mind vote for him', would that leave them open to being sued?

i would imagine only if it was libel that could be proven to cause damage to his brand, which would probably have a high threshold to pass, which is why most misstatements aren't outright lies but just distorted truths.

I can't imagine anybody would do it even if it met that standard anyway, it is probably deemed 'part of the game'.

NRO World is going apeshit over the Cheryl Mills immunity.

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I mean, he's very litigious. It would seem crazy for any other candidate to do so, but I don't even remotely understand Trump or his motivations.

he'd have to prove like that she said something patently false that like denied him the front cover of GQ or something. with actual damages.

would love to hear the judge tell Trump that if he wants to sue for damages, he should sue himself.

Has Trump ever won a libel action?

Melania will win against the Daily Mail if it goes to court but that's a different situation.

Trying to reconcile the relative closeness of the polls right now with this Gallup survey on various questions pertaining to "qualities and characteristics" isn't easy. Either a whole lot hinges on perceptions of health, or there's a major disconnect in some percentage of Trump's support.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/195755/debate-looms-voters-distrust-clinton-trump.aspx?g_source=Election%202016&g_medium=newsfeed&g_campaign=tiles

"I think he's unqualified, has poor judgement, can't manage things very well, isn't particularly likeable, and doesn't care about me, but I am going to vote for him."

so basically voters think they are Nancy from Oliver!

My analysis of that is kind of like "I assume his cabinet and advisers will mostly run things but he will project a strong image of America to the world and I dunno, maybe he will make good trade deals..."

But his advisers are fucking Roger Stone and his ilk so, yikes!

Through war and recession, Americans born since 9/11 have had to grow up fast, and they deserve a grown-up president.

otm

idk an infant president might be nice

not if it's a Clinton amirite

The Founders, in their infinite wisdom, foresaw the danger of infant presidents and provided the Republic with a bulwark against them in Article II, Section 1, paragraph 5. Paradoxically, they made no provisions against infantile presidents.

did the founders specify EARTH years?

this is why my new plug-in which inserts "earth" before every use of "years" is going to be such a hit and eliminate so much confusion

A question froma bemused nonamerican... Why, given the apparent obvious criminality of some things Trump has done (bribes etc), is there no police investigation going on? Or is there one happening but not much reported on?

Justice is bifurcated, if you haven't seen the statue. It's a woman with a blindfold that's pulled down on one eye giving a wink to rich people.