I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

What'd you watch instead, I was hoping you were having a nice time

the Mets, til i fell asleep

@DennisThePerrin

Hillary: "The more you help wealthy people, the better off we'll be. I don't agree with that." Goldman Sachs debate party erupts in laughter

waking up this morning and reading about the debate the main point seems to be that Trump was on cocaine, do I have that right?

how does cocaine poll? better than Clinton?

She don't lie.

@DennisThePerrin

Hillary: "The more you help wealthy people, the better off we'll be. I don't agree with that." Goldman Sachs debate party erupts in laughter

doubtless the first laughter Perrin has heard in some time

But Mr. Trump said mysteriously that he had “something extremely rough” to say about “Hillary and her family,” then added, “I can’t do it, I can’t do it.” He told CNN afterward that he was proud of “holding back” on Bill Clinton and his extramarital affairs because the Clintons’ daughter, Chelsea, was in the audience.

He is such a shithead.

That's the kind of thing he does to lash out when he feels wounded, though. He probably know that he just got humiliated, badly.

(41% Democrats, 26% Republicans, 33% Moby Grape fans)

Great, we're polling better numbers than the Republicans and people said that couldn't happen.

lol sure Chelsea Clinton rite now is all like "what's this bad thing he was going to say? Mom? Dad? Don't avoid my eyes Dad..."

Until he explicitly clarified, I half assumed he was congratulating himself for the chivalrous restraint of not using the c-word during the debate.

My fave moment remains him boasting of his temperament immediately after losing his temper with the birther stuff.

By the way, has anyone called Hannity yet?

If he does get into Bill's terrible behavior, he gives her an easy route to sympathy -- yes, my family has had struggles like many families, none of us are perfect, but we work on it and work things out etc etc etc. She wouldn't even need to mention Trump's own serial bad behavior, enough people know about it all that the contrast will not work in his favor.

Just watching some highlights from this debate, Trump constantly referring to Clinton as 'her' is pretty unpleasant.

I called him Hannity earlier. It went to that stupid answering machine message of his where it beeps, but it's still part of the message. You know, so you start talking and he laughs and then it beeps properly? Anyway, I told him I had to talk to him urgently, that only he could settle this argument and save the republic. If he could confirm that he and Trump used to sit around, Trump talking about how great his hotels were while Hannity expressed amazement at how against the war Trump was, all might not be lost. The USA need a deus ex Hannity, and he has to answer that call.

I don't know if he still thinks I'm on the old number. For all our sakes, I hope he replies.

It had nothing to do with anything but, because she knows Trump, I absolutely guarantee that Clinton had prepped for Trump to 'go there' re: Bill's proclivities. She may even be a little disappointed that he didn't, depending on the strength of her counterzing.

After the debate, I switched on Fox News and Hannity and Newt Gingrich both agreed that the "restraint" he showed when not bringing up Juanita Broderick was his strongest moment of the debate

The joint smugness in that conversation leapt off the tv screen and tried to strangle me.

There's nothing trump can say that Clinton hasn't heard a million times before. I know he likes to think he's the originator of all ideas, policies, positions etc, but it's fairly well trodden territory by now. I was just trying to think of what he could accuse them of I haven't heard before, and I came up wanting.

He could always make something up

"After the debate, I switched on Fox News and Hannity and Newt Gingrich both agreed that the "restraint" he showed when not bringing up Juanita Broderick was his strongest moment of the debate"

Like Gingrich is in any position to comment on Bill's philandering beyond "well, this is how i did it.

"I don't understand what Bill was thinking. You never start chasing tail until after your wife's cancer diagnosis."

Clinton should have jumped on Trump's admission that he doesn't pay income tax. I love that he let that slip out for the sake of a weak retort.

CLINTON: And maybe because you haven't paid any federal income tax for a lot of years. (APPLAUSE)

And the other thing I think is important...

TRUMP: It would be squandered, too, believe me.

And the other time when she said he paid no federal income tax and he retorted, "Because I'm smart." Super smart.

I'm genuinely unclear how Mr. Five-Children-with-Three-Wives thought he was gonna score a point by saying "Your husband cheated on you!"

It would've been beautiful, believe me. Make your head spin.

The polls won't change much, but the debate did more than I could've imagined: I doubt any of the six independents watched last night and said, "I'm voting for Trump." She wasn't going to persuade Trump-or-die voters, he wasn't going to peel any of hers off -- she just had to make him look moronic to undecideds.

I'm genuinely unclear how Mr. Five-Children-with-Three-Wives thought he was gonna score a point by saying "Your husband cheated on you!"

in Trumpworld infidelity is always the woman's fault

also fucking lol @ the cybersecurity question where Trump brings up how good his 10-year old son is with computers and doesn't say a thing about emails. he was so rattled.

We've come a long way from internets.

That was almost an endearingly grandparent-y thing to say. Except in all the ways it wasn't.

Dr casino did the Clinton camp ask if you were interested in playing trump in the mock debates

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, September 26, 2016 10:25 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm glad you asked this question and the answer is yes they did, they have and they are still asking. Because they're desperate! They're so lost, it's a mess over there and they're doing so badly. So. Badly. In the polls - just today, Wyoming, Iowa, Montana, it's - very badly. So they were begging me. In fact, and this you can go and, the media are not reporting this but it's been in some of the papers that they have actually asked if I would take over for Hillary Clinton and run for that party also. They say "Donald - we need you! We can't win and you're winning so much!" This is people in her campaign are saying this because they don't trust her to get the job done and I will. Believe me. And so we talked about it and we negotiated and there were a lot of offers but we couldn't come to a deal because they are just the worst at making deals, terrible, but we were very close and I built a great company.

:) Exactly how many 'worst deals ever' were they last night?

lmao xp

Donald Trump on Tuesday morning responded Hillary Clinton's comment during the debate that Trump once called a beauty contest contestant "Miss Piggy," saying on "Fox and Friends" that the Miss Universe contestant had "gained a massive amount of weight."

Trump brought up Clinton's remarks about Alicia Machado, a former Miss Universe winner who Trump encouraged to lose weight after she won the crown in the 1990s, when he was asked if Clinton got under his skin. Trump said that Machado was the "absolute worst."

"She was the worst we ever had. The worst, the absolute worst. She was impossible, and she was a Miss Universe contestant and ultimately a winner who they had a tremendously difficult time with as Miss Universe," he said on "Fox and Friends."

"She was the winner, and, you know, she gained a massive amount of weight, and it was a real problem. We had a real problem. Not only that, her attitude, and we had a real problem with her," Trump continued. "So Hillary went back into the years and she found this girl. This was many years ago, and found the girl and talked about her like she was Mother Teresa, and it wasn't quite that way, but that's okay. Hillary has to do what she has to do. I see what's happening in the polls."

During the debate, Clinton used Trump's past comments about Machado to illustrate how he treats women.

"And one of the worst things he said was about a woman in a beauty contest -- he loves beauty contests, supporting them and hanging around them -- and he called this woman 'Miss Piggy,' then he called her 'Miss Housekeeping' because she was Latina," Clinton said during the debate.

that dean tweet went live! god bless the internet.

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14390713_10154681879526614_1755521280698556867_n.jpg?oh=882dde44039ffd0b442918712dccca18&oe=5878CCDE

CBS was really struggling trying to find pro-Trump tweets that were coherent and able to be show on-air. I think they showed the same Ari Fleischer one several times along with an old Trump tweet.

All the tweet really showed me was that Ari Fleischer is a dipshit

aren't Trump people deleting tweets anyway?

also fucking lol @ the cybersecurity question where Trump brings up how good his 10-year old son is with computers and doesn't say a thing about emails. he was so rattled.

― frogbs, Tuesday, September 27, 2016 8:22 AM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes, this was maybe my favorite non sequitur of them all. Just thrown in the middle of his garbled spew about 'cyber'. "I have a son. He's 10 years old. He has computers. He is so good with these computers, it's unbelievable." And then no further mention of his son or how that connects to concerns about 'cyber'.

Ari Fleischer is a dipshit... STOP THE PRESSES

Dean, after his kneecapping by the party via the Scream, has proven to be a standard-issue pig

i'm glad you guys aspire for your "side" to get as deep in the muck tho

Doc Casino, in all seriousness, you need to look into capitalizing on your talent for Trumpspeak. Ghostwrite a fake memoir or something. The world needs your talent.

i was flabbergasted he didn't bring up the insecure email server during the cyber attack portion. even I thought about that. what a fucking bozo

that would have been the obvious place to bring it up, yeah

I think Trump genuinely doesn't know how to react when people just take responsibility for something and apologize. His whole idea of hammering on the email issue kind of sputtered out when Clinton admitted fault?

Doc Casino, Groucho's Rufus T Firefly in Duck Soup is a clear model for Trump, you shd go see it

maybe in the jingoism? even Groucho's ridiculousness is more competent than just repeating the same phrase for emphasis

I think Trump genuinely doesn't know how to react when people just take responsibility for something and apologize.

see Trump half-heartedly going after the "Super Predator" comment-- You said a terrible thing, I think you apologized for it, it was bad. Clinton doesn't respond.

I wonder who picked up on the fact that if you don't respond to something he said, he completely forgets about it. Seems like a crucial weakness.

"She was the winner, and, you know, she gained a massive amount of weight, and it was a real problem. We had a real problem.

So, all those quotes in Hillary's ads that your supporters claim were taken out of context... you're attempting to supply more context on Fox and Friends? Great, here's another shovel, keep digging.

Trump really spent a lot of time last night patting himself on the back for shady business practices that aren't going to be well received by anyone but the most hard core Trump supporters. His whole idea of running our foreign policy like a business just doesn't line up with most American values. This article does a good job digging into his comments:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/09/donald_trump_vote_for_me_i_m_a_cheater_and_a_thief.html