Rolling Brexit Links/UK politics in the neo-Weimar era

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It's weird how making the case for immigration is never on the to do list of these people

i bill everything i duck (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 16:04 (eight years ago) link

Oh bless she said legitimate concerns

"there has been a spate of legitimate concerns attacks in my constituency"

"my colleague Jo Cox was killed by a legitimate concernist"

i bill everything i duck (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 16:11 (eight years ago) link

Not surprised Rachel Reeves is really upset and angry at being called 'red'.

Odysseus, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 16:22 (eight years ago) link

https://mobile.twitter.com/Tom_Gann/status/780814926776532996/photo/1

Too far even for John Harris.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 17:23 (eight years ago) link

nah Harris automatically retweets anything with the words "Enoch Powell" in it

i bill everything i duck (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 17:39 (eight years ago) link

irl lol

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 17:44 (eight years ago) link

I am sure people who are struggling to get by in Reeves constituency will have sleepless nights thinking about freedom of movement in the EU + UK, especially when the root of all their problems is austerity which she has consistently supported.

Ugh! Tom Watson's speech is x-rated

PLP have sneaked 2 more onto the NEC, this is all getting so depressing I feel like switching it off indefinitely.

calzino, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 18:55 (eight years ago) link

Reeves of blood lol

I like it when you shoot inside me Dirk (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 10:43 (eight years ago) link

I am only 15 miles down the road from her constituency and 3 times in the last 5 years these England First type morons have tried to light this "tinderbox" she alludes to, every time has been a non-event. Despite these Reeves types predicting race riots. The only thing of note from these events was that one of the idiots from the gaggle of England First protesters, who would no doubt agree with what Reeves says on immigrants, would later murder an MP in cold blood.

calzino, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 10:59 (eight years ago) link

"It's what Jo['s killer] would have wanted"

I like it when you shoot inside me Dirk (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 11:31 (eight years ago) link

No doubt she will claim Rachel Discrimination

http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2016/09/28/rachel-reeves-comments-on-immigration-could-encourage-hate-a

Odysseus, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 12:01 (eight years ago) link

"more in common [with Hitler] than that which divides us"

calzino, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 12:46 (eight years ago) link

Er surely Jackie Walker has to go?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 12:49 (eight years ago) link

She is making Ken Livingstone look good atm

calzino, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 12:57 (eight years ago) link

Yep, get rid, great way for this woman to mark Holocaust Memorial Day.

jane burkini (suzy), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 15:29 (eight years ago) link

Both Walker and Reeves should be kicked out.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 21:00 (eight years ago) link

There was some grudging acceptance that Corbyn's speech was good. Its not their politics, and the 'electrifying delivery' brigade were in full force (no JC doesn't look or sound like you bland grads fuck off) but ppl are giving it an easier time, possibly because no mass of intervention could move Corbyn. Pretty much the only game in town for Labour for the next 18 months or so at the least.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 21:05 (eight years ago) link

So happy at the immigration line, especially after the racist claptrap from the likes of Reeves.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 21:08 (eight years ago) link

^^^^^^

conrad, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 21:09 (eight years ago) link

Momentum/Cobynista types I follow on twitter etc seem fairly unanimous in their opinion that Walker should go, I don't know if this is an actual consensus though, or just the consensus in my self-selected bubble?

soref, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 21:10 (eight years ago) link

Yes

i bill everything i duck (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 21:10 (eight years ago) link

Was an xp but either way. This is what we're fighting against

i bill everything i duck (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 21:11 (eight years ago) link

Absolutely. Reeves inflammatory hate speak (albeit disguised as concern) is just as appalling as Walker's horrible outbursts. Both of these idiots are not fit for the party.

calzino, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 21:13 (eight years ago) link

oh yeah, I took it for granted that pretty much everyone on ilx would agree with that. I was thinking more along the lines of what level of support Walker still has among Momentum members in general

soref, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 21:16 (eight years ago) link

goysplaining

About 925 results (0.28 seconds)

i bill everything i duck (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 22:42 (eight years ago) link

FFF ‏@UKIPBIackpool 4h4 hours ago

Cut my Labour Membership Card into pieces
This is my last resort

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 22:45 (eight years ago) link

FFF ‏@UKIPBIackpool 4h4 hours ago

Snap Election
Wes Streeting
Got Ejected From
The Local CLP Meeting

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 22:45 (eight years ago) link

this is p full-throated full-throated (partly driven by oborne's loathing of blair of course)

mark s, Thursday, 29 September 2016 09:42 (seven years ago) link

he is right to loathe Blair and right about Corbyn's mandate

i bill everything i duck (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 September 2016 10:07 (seven years ago) link

corbyn interview with oborne and david hearst from a month ago, mainly on foreign policy (this may have been linked before -- apologies if so)

mark s, Thursday, 29 September 2016 10:38 (seven years ago) link

Coming to post that. Fucking Hannan is the slipperiest, most odious, most cunt of all the Brexiters.

stet, Thursday, 29 September 2016 11:33 (seven years ago) link

Jesus, what a repulsive cast of characters in that piece.

(SNIFFING AND INDISTINCT SOBBING) (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 September 2016 11:46 (seven years ago) link

“It passes by as the idle wind that I respect not”

0_o

(SNIFFING AND INDISTINCT SOBBING) (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 September 2016 11:49 (seven years ago) link

not sure how well sam kriss goes down on ilx but I agree with him on the (never spoken) terrifying incoherence and unpredictability of how people vote and the concomitant desperate pretentiousness behind the obsession with electability
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/labour-and-electability-sam-kriss

ogmor, Friday, 30 September 2016 15:55 (seven years ago) link

It's a good article but I don't know why he's surprised that people love Corbin less than his policies - the papers have been against him since Day 1, and people as he says trust personalities over people kit is - if he does do that thing you like, he'll do it wrong because he's Wrong.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 30 September 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link

I don't know whether papers have been against him since Day 1 explains it. Its a number of things. Corbyn doesn't look like a leader and (he would admit this) wasn't meant to be one.

Was just reading that piece. I kinda like Sam although he wastes energy attacking Nick Cohen or some shit bag easy target but there is a feeling that doing the thinking and doing the doing are a problem for him, me, all of us - which is why his stuff on Harambe and flat earthers reads so much better to me.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 September 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/30/labour-suspends-jackie-walker-over-holocaust-comments

But former London mayor Ken Livingstone defended some of Walker’s comments, saying “there’s a difference between ignorance and antisemitism”.

AARGH SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

soref, Friday, 30 September 2016 22:37 (seven years ago) link

I mean, I know ppl keep asking him about this stuff, but would it kill him to just say "no comment"? who does he think he's helping at this point?

soref, Friday, 30 September 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link

they both seem to have the same anti-Israel state virus that goes way beyond casual anti-semitism, it is like they are fucking possessed.

calzino, Friday, 30 September 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link

cf swathes of SWP-influenced leftists

Still D.U.C.K. (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 October 2016 00:13 (seven years ago) link

Article 50 will be triggered by March 2017, according to May.

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Sunday, 2 October 2016 09:01 (seven years ago) link

stoked for the madness

don't even see how this was a duck (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 October 2016 09:09 (seven years ago) link

Lee Westwood would approve.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 October 2016 09:14 (seven years ago) link

good luck UK

minimal hat spiritualism (seandalai), Sunday, 2 October 2016 11:07 (seven years ago) link

it still might not happen

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 2 October 2016 15:03 (seven years ago) link

pma

conrad, Sunday, 2 October 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link

I keep wondering if May is being all "yep, Brexit, gonna do that on April 1st" to stir the moneyed interests in the UK that will suffer to do what they can to change the "conversation" and ease an exit from Brexit somehow. But this is probably wishful thinking on my part and May is going to steer the country into Brexit and oblivion.

But surely the inevitable subsequent financial fallout of Brexit will ruin the Tories for at least an election or two?

A bear made of Tetris blocks (stevie), Sunday, 2 October 2016 19:19 (seven years ago) link

I think they have started to believe their own hype — that everyone will give them what they want and they'll get a Brexit bounce straight into the 2020 election. A breakout session at conference this week has them planning for power until 2035

stet, Sunday, 2 October 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link


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